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CONFIRMERED,

I may get up for work on time tomorrow.

It's unlikely, but for my clientel use to me, I'll be right on que.

Even when probable, I can't see confirming maybe!?!


Thats like saying COMFIRMERED, you may win the lottery tomorrow. True as that may be, I'd still plan on having to go to work on Thursday.

After having seen the First movie in IMAX, and after having done a mental run-thru of some of the best scenes, the only scene that I feel could have benefitted any more from a 3D treatment would be when Simmons got "Lubed" by Bumblebee. Watching an entire audience jump at that scene, from the pop of the oil can to the 10W-30 shower, would be funny as hell!

T-Macksimus wrote:After having seen the First movie in IMAX, and after having done a mental run-thru of some of the best scenes, the only scene that I feel could have benefitted any more from a 3D treatment would be when Simmons got "Lubed" by Bumblebee. Watching an entire audience jump at that scene, from the pop of the oil can to the 10W-30 shower, would be funny as hell!

I thought that was too runny to be oil, it would have to be very hot for it to be that runny and that would have burned Simmons...I always thought it was windshield washer fluid or maybe antifreeze but if it was antifreeze it was certainly a different color than the standard neon glowing green.

When Bonecrusher comes running up to grab Prime and they tumble over the highway that would be cool in 3D and also the fight scene where Bonecrusher jabs at Prime with his hook, maybe even when Prime grabs Bonecrusher and his eye pops out might look cool.

Scorponok popping out of the sand in that slow mo shot would look great...people would think he was about to land on them in the audience.

Prime holding on to Megatron in the final battle as he is flying towards the camera...there are lots of great scenes in 3D.

In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.

Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.

Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too!

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.

Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too!

I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.

Shadowman wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.

Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too!

I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.

It's based on a poem a legend so it had to have a few creative liberties to stretch it out to two hours is why...it was still a good story and movie I thought.

I was not impressed with IMAX. I thought it would be more real than just the "floating" effect in front of the screen. And the cost is so unjustifiable.

Not to mention getting dizzy at some angles.

***Galvatron*** wrote:It's based on a poem a legend so it had to have a few creative liberties to stretch it out to two hours is why...it was still a good story and movie I thought.

The original poem had over 3000 lines! And even then, it doesn't justify letting Grendel's mother live, her boinking Beowulf and Hrothgar, among other things.

Shadowman wrote:

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.

Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too!

I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.

So "change" in the 2007 Transformers movie is ok but not in this ? LOL

***Galvatron*** wrote:

Shadowman wrote:I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.

So "change" in the 2007 Transformers movie is ok but not in this ? LOL

There's a huge difference. Transformers, Spider-Man, Batman, all have years and years of constantly changing history, so that a huge departure or two isn't too far off.

Books, like Beowulf, the Odyssey, Lord of the Rings, don't have the same history. The stories are written once, they don't change. In Beowulf and the Odyssey's cases, the only possible changes would be between translations.

Shadowman wrote:The original poem had over 3000 lines! And even then, it doesn't justify letting Grendel's mother live, her boinking Beowulf and Hrothgar, among other things.

The movie sucked for me because the whole thing was a slaughterfest of idiotic norse vikings or something from start to finish (grendel eating the guys head was unessessaraly drawn out), and there was only ONE 3-D part that looked any good, and that was only 10 seconds long and a zoom out shot at that. Everything else (the first washing lady and that moron trooper guy scene for example) was just...wrong IMO.
Overall, I believe that if a movie is made FOR 3-D, the story will absolutley suck (exception being Monster House, which was decent enough for the ticket price). We all want Transformers 2 to be good, and 3-D is something that would just crapify it. I mean, who wants to look at Bumblebee 'peeing' on the crowd?

Lockdown72 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:The original poem had over 3000 lines! And even then, it doesn't justify letting Grendel's mother live, her boinking Beowulf and Hrothgar, among other things.

The movie sucked for me because the whole thing was a slaughterfest of idiotic norse vikings or something from start to finish (grendel eating the guys head was unessessaraly drawn out), and there was only ONE 3-D part that looked any good, and that was only 10 seconds long and a zoom out shot at that. Everything else (the first washing lady and that moron trooper guy scene for example) was just...wrong IMO.
Overall, I believe that if a movie is made FOR 3-D, the story will absolutley suck (exception being Monster House, which was decent enough for the ticket price). We all want Transformers 2 to be good, and 3-D is something that would just crapify it. I mean, who wants to look at Bumblebee 'peeing' on the crowd?

I can safely say that there will be more than just a 3D version made of the movie...Imax3d and a regular theater version of the movie.

Who says they will repeat the same scene with bumblebee "peeing" however ?

Beowolf, The Iliad, The Odyssey and the Bible all share one thing on common.

They are all myths.

Now before people all get up in arms "The Bible isn't a myth it really happened! bitch bitch bitch"

Let me set something straight.

Myth means a "Sacred Story"

The Iliad and Odyssey were the closest things the Greeks had to a written bible, Beowolf I would imagine is along the same lines, just as sacred as the stories of Zeus or Jesus.

Plus there is one thing common with all mythical stories, they are rooted in fact.

We know now that the battle of Troy actually took place, considering we found Troy, and we found the actual Ithica.

Now, comparing Transformers, a fictional property, to legends passed down from generation to generation before actually being written about on paper. Well that is damned stupid.

If thats the case, I propose we rewrite the Bible where Jesus doesn't actually die, he gets rescued from the Romans by Mary Magdalin and they have a high-speed chariot chase through Jerusalem, before tipping over market-stands causing the Roman soldiers chariots to explode.

Now, all of that stuff aside.

Filming Transformers in 3d will do one thing, take away from any actual worthwhile shots to adding in 3d "jump-points" where more and more things will fly at the screen to make the movie look like it's actually jumping out at you.

Now, if you want Transformers to be filmed like this, before you actually sign on 100%, go rent "The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl - 3d", watch it in full 3-d effects, glasses and everything, and be sure to pay attention to how they do the 3d effects. Then come back and say that you want Transformers in 3d.

Senor Hugo wrote:Now, comparing Transformers, a fictional property, to legends passed down from generation to generation before actually being written about on paper. Well that is damned stupid.

I was only comparing in the sense of adaptations; that Transformers is constantly changing, and Beowulf is constantly not changing, and that changing half the story of Beowulf for the movie was just damned stupid.

I would just watch it normally. Going to movie theaters are already expensive enough....

Senor Hugo wrote:Beowolf, The Iliad, The Odyssey and the Bible all share one thing on common.

They are all myths.

Now before people all get up in arms "The Bible isn't a myth it really happened! bitch bitch bitch"

Let me set something straight.

Myth means a "Sacred Story"

The Iliad and Odyssey were the closest things the Greeks had to a written bible, Beowolf I would imagine is along the same lines, just as sacred as the stories of Zeus or Jesus.

Plus there is one thing common with all mythical stories, they are rooted in fact.

We know now that the battle of Troy actually took place, considering we found Troy, and we found the actual Ithica.

Now, comparing Transformers, a fictional property, to legends passed down from generation to generation before actually being written about on paper. Well that is damned stupid.

If thats the case, I propose we rewrite the Bible where Jesus doesn't actually die, he gets rescued from the Romans by Mary Magdalin and they have a high-speed chariot chase through Jerusalem, before tipping over market-stands causing the Roman soldiers chariots to explode.

Now, all of that stuff aside.

Filming Transformers in 3d will do one thing, take away from any actual worthwhile shots to adding in 3d "jump-points" where more and more things will fly at the screen to make the movie look like it's actually jumping out at you.

Now, if you want Transformers to be filmed like this, before you actually sign on 100%, go rent "The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl - 3d", watch it in full 3-d effects, glasses and everything, and be sure to pay attention to how they do the 3d effects. Then come back and say that you want Transformers in 3d.

Ok you maxi turkey, as shadowman already pointed out nobody said transformers and beowulf were being compared as far as importance or historical and religious or cultural importance over the other but yes it was a choice of adaptations and story and we were comparing it for the 3D aspect not really the subject matter itself in the long run.

Yeah, I don't think I made myself clear, so I apologize for that.

I did agree, that while Transformers is constantly in change, things like Beowolf has never extremely changed like what we see in TF.

I meant it was stupid to compare TF to Beowolf in the sense of change. One being a legend passed down, barely ever changing, the other constantly being updated for newer generations.

Yeah, sorry about that it was late for me.

For Transformers change is necessary, in 50 or so years, Transformers will probably be long gone and forgotten. In order to keep it around, it's had to change, like with Beast Wars, had that not come around, Transformers would have probably never showed back up in the lime-light.

However, things like Beowolf have survived the ages without change, the Beowolf movie did change the legend, and screwed it up, really badly. Had the legend not been changed, it may have been a little short, but it would have been awesome.

But for Transformers change really is a good thing, for fans and Hasbro, it brings out new toys for Hasbro to sell, new designs, and with Hasbro actually starting to listen to the fans more, we get better products.

Basically, Transformers is based around change, so, like I said, comparing it to something that hasn't changed throughout the ages is silly.

Senor Hugo wrote:Yeah, I don't think I made myself clear, so I apologize for that.

I did agree, that while Transformers is constantly in change, things like Beowolf has never extremely changed like what we see in TF.

I meant it was stupid to compare TF to Beowolf in the sense of change. One being a legend passed down, barely ever changing, the other constantly being updated for newer generations.

Yeah, sorry about that it was late for me.For Transformers change is necessary, in 50 or so years, Transformers will probably be long gone and forgotten. In order to keep it around, it's had to change, like with Beast Wars, had that not come around, Transformers would have probably never showed back up in the lime-light.

However, things like Beowolf have survived the ages without change, the Beowolf movie did change the legend, and screwed it up, really badly. Had the legend not been changed, it may have been a little short, but it would have been awesome.

But for Transformers change really is a good thing, for fans and Hasbro, it brings out new toys for Hasbro to sell, new designs, and with Hasbro actually starting to listen to the fans more, we get better products.

Basically, Transformers is based around change, so, like I said, comparing it to something that hasn't changed throughout the ages is silly.

No problem, I was not offended or anything just trying to explain myself further too...it was too early for my post.

...so if it's in 3d does that mean they'll give out glasses that transform, too?

Hey! They can be a new Real Gear Robot! </Sarcasm>

Senor Hugo wrote:Yeah, I don't think I made myself clear, so I apologize for that.

I did agree, that while Transformers is constantly in change, things like Beowolf has never extremely changed like what we see in TF.

I meant it was stupid to compare TF to Beowolf in the sense of change. One being a legend passed down, barely ever changing, the other constantly being updated for newer generations.

Yeah, sorry about that it was late for me.

For Transformers change is necessary, in 50 or so years, Transformers will probably be long gone and forgotten. In order to keep it around, it's had to change, like with Beast Wars, had that not come around, Transformers would have probably never showed back up in the lime-light.

However, things like Beowolf have survived the ages without change, the Beowolf movie did change the legend, and screwed it up, really badly. Had the legend not been changed, it may have been a little short, but it would have been awesome.

But for Transformers change really is a good thing, for fans and Hasbro, it brings out new toys for Hasbro to sell, new designs, and with Hasbro actually starting to listen to the fans more, we get better products.

Basically, Transformers is based around change, so, like I said, comparing it to something that hasn't changed throughout the ages is silly.

Preach on, brother!