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I have to say that I really Dig Jazz, his head is somewhat reminicent of G1

Anybody else get the feeling Barricade Started out as a concept idea of Movie Soundwave?


Cmon' Frenzy? soundwave's casseticon.
Frenzy "ejects" from Barricades "Chest"? read tape deck.

don't want to sound all conspiratorial but...

What's "automorph technology"? Is that just a tagline to say, "it does the work, so you don't have to"?

Leonardo wrote:What's "automorph technology"? Is that just a tagline to say, "it does the work, so you don't have to"?

Hmmm... I just assumed automorphing was the way they were going to explain "bendy" metal. I was calling it transmorphing before, and I like my buzzword better.

Ah. To me, "automorphing technology" makes me think of Armada Prime's trailer.

when i look at jazz, i notice his "fox ears" and i gotta chuckle.
he's kool though.
when i look at brawl, i see him saying "ME GOT AXE!".
he's kool though.
when i see wreckage, i see megatron, or i think megaplex from machine wars.
he's kool.
when i see barricade i think "GOOD LARD! HE'S GONNA RAPE MY CAR AND THAT CROW ON STILTS IS GONNA GIVE ME A TICKET FOR SPEEDING AND CALL ME LUCY!!!!!"

The Automorph technology was explained as the thing that makes the transformation into little panels possible.

In the toys, its a little gimmick that automatically transforms one part of the Robot when you transform another. It was explained with Ratchet, in a previous thread. Move his leg and a panel moves also to complete the transformation.

Redimus wrote:

magus wrote::? Well, with Wreckage being our first example of a non-movie movie toy, I fear for Arcee and the other bot names that popped up on that list. He's probably the best looking one out of the bunch but I really don't like the styling of these movie toys at all.

Im not sure what to think of the whole Arcee thing... I mean I would expect any filler charecters to have either new names, or names of obscure charecters, so they dont inadvetently clash with any future movie plans, yet from what I can tell there has been no plan to include Arcee in this movie...

Anyway, yeah, I think I like Wreckage the most. Most of the others have an element of 'wtf?' about them.

Actually, if I remember right, Arcee was going to be one of the Autobots in the earliest phases of the film. I'm wondering if the toyline-only characters might actually be derived in part from early concept art that went unused.

Overcracker wrote:Anybody else get the feeling Barricade Started out as a concept idea of Movie Soundwave?


Cmon' Frenzy? soundwave's casseticon.
Frenzy "ejects" from Barricades "Chest"? read tape deck.

don't want to sound all conspiratorial but...

I think it's been pretty-well confirmed that Blackout originally started-out as Soundwave what with Skorponok being his 'cargo'. The toy is even cast in blue plastic with yellow lining around the windows. Barricade... I dunno. Nothing about him really screams 'Soundwave' to me. Then again, Megatron doesn't remind me much of Megatron either.

Yeah, a spoiler will provide a lot of defense...
I'm getting a 'Strika' vibe from the tank dude, not sure why.
Wreckage looks pretty damn cool since he doesn't look too Bayformer. OMFG, is that an actual face and not a series of mandibles?

Hmmm I agree with the automorph thing, it sounds like it would transform itself like beast wars rattrap or something. I was a bit worried about that. So these guys are going to have bendy plastic parts? That's a pretty neat idea actually, too bad it doesn't seem to have helped the bot modes any

I actually like the look of these guys, I'll probably have a shelf dedicated to them like I do the beast machines. These will probably be filed under 'weird and unusual' rather than 'kickass and classic'. The weird and unusual tfs usually go untouched for years... Still they have their place, to sit there and make me appreciate classics more and more.

Seriously though these look fun and I hope the kids get some good enjoyment out of them. I just hope the movie isn't insanely successful and all tfs end up looking like that for the next 10 years...

Automorphing explained:
There is a gearwork infrastructure to the toys so that when you transform a major piece (leg) the gearwork registers the movement and 'automorphs' the foot and kneecap into position for you. This is a similar idea to the gimmick used for the small Beast Wars figures like Rattrap, Terrorsaur, and 'Gator'tron.

As for the where/how of Frenzy, pull down Barricades rambar/grill and watch as Frenzy pops out a bit so you can grab him.

I'm starting to get the feeling that if they were to try to impliment Soundwave into a later movie, he would fail because they handed out his gimmick to not one, but two other Decepticons.

edit: Tacogrande types faster than me...

Wheni saw wreckage i thought they where talking about the design...but the Decepticon Wreckage look very neat, maybe h'es for the sequel?

hmmm...i like barricade. However, i refuse to call that THING Frenzy.

I saw that before, and was hoping it wasn't frenzy, but it is and what a disgrace he is.

83457W422102 wrote:I'm getting a 'Strika' vibe from the tank dude, not sure why.

He definately bears a resemblance to Blastcharge, that hit me right away.

What ever happened to Bonecrusher anyway? We saw his vehicle all painted up for filming and such, but nothing since. Did he get scrapped in postproduction?

Edit: This may be obvious, but I'm guessing "Frenzy" is similar to the android Zeta from the Batman Beyond and Zeta Project series - a robot capable of disguising itself as a human (presumably a police officer) with holograms. That's kind of something Barricade would need to function effectively. Blackout's pilot in the movie trailor may be the same thing, rather than a completely holographic entity.

Isn't Wreckage the one who crashes through the bus or whatever in the trailer?

mmmm I actually loving these movie toys. I can't wait till these guys come out. Call me crazy but I just like em a lot.

So the name Bonecrusher was a misnomer?

grizzly1 wrote:when i see barricade i think "GOOD LARD! HE'S GONNA RAPE MY CAR AND THAT CROW ON STILTS IS GONNA GIVE ME A TICKET FOR SPEEDING AND CALL ME LUCY!!!!!"

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sorry if someone mentioned this but.......looks like scorponok has a robot mode after all....course who knows if its in the actual movie

stormrider wrote:So the name Bonecrusher was a misnomer?

Caelus wrote:What ever happened to Bonecrusher anyway? We saw his vehicle all painted up for filming and such, but nothing since. Did he get scrapped in postproduction?

SmokeStack wrote:Isn't Wreckage the one who crashes through the bus or whatever in the trailer?

I can't believe so many people are still getting "Wreckage" and Bonecrusher confused.

Bonecrusher = Buffalo mine clearing vehicle. IS in the movie. Crashes through the bus at the end of the trailer

Wreckage = Armored transport. ONLY a toy, NOT in the movie, as will be the case with many other non-movie toys.

We just haven't seen much of Bonecrusher since he's probably one of, if not THE, most minor character in the movie.

Bouncy X wrote:sorry if someone mentioned this but.......looks like scorponok has a robot mode after all....course who knows if its in the actual movie

We've seen pics of the 'testshot' for Scorponok. The toy has a bot mode, but it's really bad, and not much different from the Scorpion mode. Looks more like one of the little kids' playskool style Transformers.


Edit:

SKowl wrote:Bonecrusher = Buffalo mine clearing vehicle. IS in the movie. Crashes through the bus at the end of the trailer

We just haven't seen much of Bonecrusher since he's probably one of, if not THE, most minor character in the movie.

But even with him as a minor character, it seems really odd - he's the only movie former (AFAIK) that we haven't seen a proto of yet - and now we're getting nonmovie characters.

Still, we haven't seen Bumblebee's 2008 version either...

they look nice. but the thing with frenzy ejectingout of barricade's chest is just ugh.

Caelus wrote:

SKowl wrote:Bonecrusher = Buffalo mine clearing vehicle. IS in the movie. Crashes through the bus at the end of the trailer

We just haven't seen much of Bonecrusher since he's probably one of, if not THE, most minor character in the movie.

But even with him as a minor character, it seems really odd - he's the only movie former (AFAIK) that we haven't seen a proto of yet - and now we're getting nonmovie characters.

Still, we haven't seen Bumblebee's 2008 version either...

I know, I find it weird too... He's probably just part of the later waves, so no prototypes have leaked yet. If you look at the protos we've seen so far, they're all the figures from the "first wave" if you want to call it that, which would probably consist of:

Deluxe '78 Camaro Bumblebee
Deluxe Brawl
Deluxe Barricade
Deluxe Jazz
Deluxe Wreckage
Deluxe Scorponok
Voyager Ratchet
Voyager Blackout (maybe)
Leader Prime
Leader Megatron
Real Gear bots

We're still missing '08 Camaro Bumblebee, Ironhide, Bonecrusher, not to mention all the non-movie characters we saw listings for... they're all probably being saved for later waves, along with the various size classes of the figs we've already seen (i.e Leader Brawl, Deluxe Starscream, Voyager Prime and Megs...)

AbsumZer0 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Anybody else get the feeling Barricade Started out as a concept idea of Movie Soundwave?


Cmon' Frenzy? soundwave's casseticon.
Frenzy "ejects" from Barricades "Chest"? read tape deck.

don't want to sound all conspiratorial but...

I think it's been pretty-well confirmed that Blackout originally started-out as Soundwave what with Skorponok being his 'cargo'. The toy is even cast in blue plastic with yellow lining around the windows. Barricade... I dunno. Nothing about him really screams 'Soundwave' to me. Then again, Megatron doesn't remind me much of Megatron either.

....i might call barricade...... soundwave......