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I have some TFs that have this tatic and I'm wanting to ask is lv 2 a good time to putting XP in to repair?

its a matter of preference, and if you join a lot of 1-11 missions.

a strafe repairer has a chance of making GREAT xp.

Both have avoid and repair.

Avoid repair is good. Honestly though I would wait till level 3 / 4 for an Avoid/Repair.

Why? Well on single fights or 5/5 fights you will yield a lower XP return for the levels below 3 on an avoid/repair build. Avoid yields a 50xp return per avoid. Repair yields X amount of xp times level bonus. For the level fights (1-2,2-3,2-4,etc) this bonus is not going to yield high xp so your growth may be slower than a strafer/repair because your basic attacks are just single XP yield returns and not mulitple (strafe) or high damage xp (ram) returns. Also at levels below 3 you tend to not have enough XP to build a strong repairer. A gadget repair build with high strength would actually work amazingly in 1-11.

_Anshin_ wrote:Avoid repair is good. Honestly though I would wait till level 3 / 4 for an Avoid/Repair.

Why? Well on single fights or 5/5 fights you will yield a lower XP return for the levels below 3 on an avoid/repair build. Avoid yields a 50xp return per avoid. Repair yields X amount of xp times level bonus. For the level fights (1-2,2-3,2-4,etc) this bonus is not going to yield high xp so your growth may be slower than a strafer/repair because your basic attacks are just single XP yield returns and not mulitple (strafe) or high damage xp (ram) returns. Also at levels below 3 you tend to not have enough XP to build a strong repairer. A gadget repair build with high strength would actually work amazingly in 1-11.

Oh, that explains why my strafer and rammer got more XP than usual. thanks

NW- you got a team link?

i can offer some advice if i know what xp you're workin with

Annie has a good point up there, but depending on a few things it could be really advantageous of you to build a high courage/speed "explosion machine" with a lot of ranks in strafe/avoid or strafe repair.

the current high score is held by a level 5 on an alt with repair as a solo tactic i believe. with a strafer right behind

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=11116

for the vast majority of people, a repairer is now a viable option once you have the xp to pull it off

Well returns for XP work on level multipliers but also tactic multipliers.

You will get more XP back from finishing off an opponent from a tactic than you will from just hitting them. There are exceptions to this such as avoid and repair tactics.

In terms of damage this however this is relative to your builds. A good Strafer can do over 100 points of damage in a single move (typically across the group and not just to one person). Individual strafe moves do typically less damage than direct attacks, but the multiple attacks adds up much faster. Ram attacks often do more damage than a single typical attack. A 10 strength rammer can and has done up to 70% damage in a single round. This is not typical as most even level rams are around 26-33%.

Avoiders and Repairers however have one thing that the Strafe/Rams don't suffer from and that is the armor/endurance modifiers. A repairer can do as much repair as the points that are put into it, and an avoider will always get 50 points.

Name_Violation wrote:NW- you got a team link?

i can offer some advice if i know what xp you're workin with

Annie has a good point up there, but depending on a few things it could be really advantageous of you to build a high courage/speed "explosion machine" with a lot of ranks in strafe/avoid or strafe repair.

the current high score is held by a level 5 on an alt with repair as a solo tactic i believe. with a strafer right behind

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=11116

for the vast majority of people, a repairer is now a viable option once you have the xp to pull it off

Annie? Seriously NV? Annie? Are you the Jar Jar Binks of HMW now?

_Anshin_ wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:NW- you got a team link?

i can offer some advice if i know what xp you're workin with

Annie has a good point up there, but depending on a few things it could be really advantageous of you to build a high courage/speed "explosion machine" with a lot of ranks in strafe/avoid or strafe repair.

the current high score is held by a level 5 on an alt with repair as a solo tactic i believe. with a strafer right behind

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=11116

for the vast majority of people, a repairer is now a viable option once you have the xp to pull it off

Annie? Seriously NV? Annie? Are you the Jar Jar Binks of HMW now?

Burnadette would probably argue I always have been

Great. Every post you make I read now with that damn voice in my head.

_Anshin_ wrote:Great. Every post you make I read now with that damn voice in my head.

Me's sa not a fan Annie

I got a level 0 autobot with repair. Is this a good thing to have? Its a recent upgrade and i havent seen him use it yet?

Js9132 wrote:I got a level 0 autobot with repair. Is this a good thing to have? Its a recent upgrade and i havent seen him use it yet?

level 0, speed and avoid are the only tactics that really matter, even thin its still just dumb luck.

repairing really starts to look good when you have missions with higher level allies

You could also focus in on strength and ram at level 0. The strength would be a bonus because you get armor for increased damage reduction.

Name_Violation wrote:

_Anshin_ wrote:Great. Every post you make I read now with that damn voice in my head.

Me's sa not a fan Annie

Is it bad that I thought "Little Orphan Annie" and not Star Wars when I first read that? *picturing Anshin as Little Orphan Annie now*

_Anshin_ wrote:You could also focus in on strength and ram at level 0. The strength would be a bonus because you get armor for increased damage reduction.

true, but the armor and damage isnt as good as the accuracy, bonus to be missed, and feeder stat to avoid,that speed boosts IMHO

Name_Violation wrote:

_Anshin_ wrote:You could also focus in on strength and ram at level 0. The strength would be a bonus because you get armor for increased damage reduction.

true, but the armor and damage isnt as good as the accuracy, bonus to be missed, and feeder stat to avoid,that speed boosts IMHO

I can't argue with you, but the way I look at it is at level 0 the decrease in damage received is more constant than a feeder stat such as avoid that has less than a 40% chance at firing off. The good thing about avoid is that it adds extra XP / Energon.

Name_Violation wrote:NW- you got a team link?

i can offer some advice if i know what xp you're workin with

Annie has a good point up there, but depending on a few things it could be really advantageous of you to build a high courage/speed "explosion machine" with a lot of ranks in strafe/avoid or strafe repair.

the current high score is held by a level 5 on an alt with repair as a solo tactic i believe. with a strafer right behind

http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... n_id=11116

for the vast majority of people, a repairer is now a viable option once you have the xp to pull it off

I thought I had one, oh well here's the one I need help with http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... r_id=83527

Absolute Zero wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:

_Anshin_ wrote:Great. Every post you make I read now with that damn voice in my head.

Me's sa not a fan Annie

Is it bad that I thought "Little Orphan Annie" and not Star Wars when I first read that? *picturing Anshin as Little Orphan Annie now*

Man now i got this image that ashin has ginger curly hair a good singing voice and an annoying whining voice with a tendancy to slash anything that gets in his way with a light sabre

Also what is the recommend lv to start getting armour?

Nightwarp wrote:Also what is the recommend lv to start getting armour?

Honestly as soon as you put strength on. Iron armor works great till at least level 2/3. At that point Rank two will hold you till about 5. From what I am seeing with my armor testing it is a slight increase for rank beyond two with where I am at at Rank 5 being my final tests and doing pretty well.

The thing to remember is that while you're levelling up, so are your opponents. So they're getting stronger, you need to strenghten your defenses to match.

So really, you may not notice a significant increase in armour defense, unless you're beating up lower levels.