metaphorge wrote:*Snarkless translation: original authorial intent trumps canon (which can, of course, be changed at any time by whomever has "creative control" of a given franchise or property for whatever reason they see fit).
You just defeated your own argument by saying that authorial intent can be changed by those who write the canon.
And even if you had not, claiming that authorial intent trumps canon is a very dangerous claim to make, as it opens a whole bucket of worms to crawl out. Authorial intent as described in this fandom, is as follows:
Authorial intent is the meaning or interpretation of a fictional work that the author had in mind when he or she was creating it.
Frequently in the various Transformers fictions, the author's intent ends up being unclear or even contradicted by the finished work. In these cases it is up to each fan to decide whether to accept the author's intent or the work as-released.
Sometimes the correct interpretation is obvious, but other times it ends up being a matter of debate. When the author's intent doesn't make it into the final product, can that intent still trump the "true" events as shown in the canon? This is an especially difficult question when one considers that the author's explanations, even if widely disseminated through the fandom, are still only known to a tiny portion of the fiction's full audience, which includes far more casual fans and children than it does devoted information-hounds.
Facts about the fiction that are stated/intended by the authors but never established in official fiction are often referred to as pseudocanon.
metaphorge wrote:That's why I originally said it was a joke that WFC and Prime are set in a unitary continuity. WFC was clearly much more strongly inspired by G1 than Prime, so it seems rather silly that Hasbro has insisted on making one follow the other historically.
Oh, I don't deny that several aspects of it were inspired by G1, but its basic components come from the Binder (which itself compiles several elements from all previous TF series, including G1).
The Binder itself is the collective core of the aligned fiction, itself being an amalgamation of events from all past TF franchises. It's just the point in its history that WFC chronicles is ripe with G1 influences, whereas other points in its chronicled history contain elements from other TF series. Like, the post-Great Exodus point in time is mostly inspired by TF: Cybertron, the present day chronicled by the Prime cartoon is mostly inspired by the Movies and Animated, the point in time right before WFC is mostly inspired by both IDW G1 and the Movies, the Age of Wrath is mostly inspired by the G1 cartoon's Quintesson conflict, and so on and so forth.
But the bottom line is, "being inspired by G1" =/= "being G1".
metaphorge wrote:You are of course technically correct as Hasbro presently defines "history" by edict but that doesn't make it less apparently an afterthought.
While it is admittedly not a perfect fit and not exactly how Hasbro wanted to tie the two together, there was still the intent to make the to exist together. I think what Hasbro was indeed wrong with doing was giving both parties way too much leeway in making each one so different. They should have had a greater control over both to make each one bear a better resemblance to the other. But alas, we are stuck with the two as they are: An record of the distant past and a record of the present day of the same continuity.
Windsweeper wrote:I'm so sick of the deluxe cars produced beside deluxe jets of recent years. Would it not be cheaper for Hasbro to produce Scout cars rather than deluxe ones? I wish they'd feck off with their Legends crap as well.
Then what size would the Minibots be to remain smaller than the Autobot Cars?
Windsweeper wrote:WFC has more in common with G1 and War Within than any other series.
War Within is G1. Dreamwave G1, to be exact.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Definitely getting Jazz, but holding out for a larger class for Shockwave and Prime.
If these are Generations, there won't be any larger sizes.
Rated X wrote:Not sure why they are doing a 2nd cybertronian deluxe Optimus, when they just did one last year.
Becuase he has a new body for the game.
Rated X wrote:Maybe because it's Optimus, so expect another Bumblebee and probally Megatron too instead of new characters.
Megatron is likely, since he also has a new body. But not Bumblebee, since he still has his WFC body.
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