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cosmos looks awesome but shrapnel on the other hand is horrible, but at least they tried to give him his name. Ill probably throw cosmos on the buy 1 get 1 50% off/coupon list.

Both of these are fantastic... though I'm not really sure what Reflector changes into there. Heh.

Would love to troop build these bugs... but I do SINCERELY hope they release "Hardshell" and Kickback at this size. Will be really miffed otherwise.

...Skrapnel? HASBRO! Y U DO THAT?! >_< As for his partner Reflector, I do love that it turns into a camera. The robot mode looks nice, too. It's weapon mode that ruins it. As for Kickback, himself (I refuse to call it Skrapnel), he looks quite good. If they end up making all three Insecticons, they've won me over.

Cosmos, on the other hand, OH YES PLEASE. He looks amazing! I love that these guys are small enough to work well with Metroplex. Which leads me to a problem. Hasbro's found a way to exploit my plastic crack addiction. I had no intention of buying this Class of figures and then I saw Bumblebee on clearance at Wal*Mart and put him in one of the control areas on Metroplex and he fit so perfectly. It blew my mind and made my wallet cry. Now, I'm trying so hard not to buy these but they look so good.

...so good.

-_- Hasbro, I could sucker punch you in the kidneys right now. My poor wallet hates you.

HA! So it is Skrapnel now and not Sharpshot. Suck it Sabrblade

Megazarak wrote:

Rated X wrote:Meh...

I thought Swerve and Cosmos were going to be scout sized.

Igear wins this round.

You didn't really have any reason to think that, considering we always knew they were Legends and had their little partners, making them the same size as the Optimus, BB, SS and Megs that were previously in the line.

That said, these figures are bigger than Legion and a bit smaller than Commander, so that would put them a bit under Scout size (which in turn is a little bigger than a Commander).

Here's a pretty good picture for their scale.

For me thats G1 toy scale. The mini bots were only "mini" as a gimmick to sell toys to kids with cheap parents. Legends class is the same concept. But having figures that stand up to Primes kneecaps is rather silly looking in my opinion. Scout class just makes more sense from a G1 cartoon perspective. Hasbro Windcharger was the perfect scale. The picture shown here was taken at an angle looking down slightly to make Prime seem shorter so the Legends Bee doesnt look so small.

Autobot032 wrote:...Skrapnel? HASBRO! Y U DO THAT?! >_< As for his partner Reflector, I do love that it turns into a camera. The robot mode looks nice, too. It's weapon mode that ruins it. As for Kickback, himself (I refuse to call it Skrapnel)

That's not Kickback, It's Shrapnel, hence the new name. Trademark on SHRAPNEL was lost, so they first went with sharpshot as a replacement, but now it seems somebody with a creative yet simple approach has entered the building, hence the clever use of SKRAPNEL

These make me happy and un-regret my decision to not purchase the previous Legends Cosmos figure.

Though already owning Cosmos ver.2, this one looks less stubby like a downsized Scourge. nice! Shrapnel too! Instant buy! I hope the other 3 Insecticons get this same make over.

Autobot032 wrote:...Skrapnel? HASBRO! Y U DO THAT?! >_< As for his partner Reflector, I do love that it turns into a camera. The robot mode looks nice, too. It's weapon mode that ruins it. As for Kickback, himself (I refuse to call it Skrapnel), he looks quite good. If they end up making all three Insecticons, they've won me over.

Cosmos, on the other hand, OH YES PLEASE. He looks amazing! I love that these guys are small enough to work well with Metroplex. Which leads me to a problem. Hasbro's found a way to exploit my plastic crack addiction. I had no intention of buying this Class of figures and then I saw Bumblebee on clearance at Wal*Mart and put him in one of the control areas on Metroplex and he fit so perfectly. It blew my mind and made my wallet cry. Now, I'm trying so hard not to buy these but they look so good.

...so good.

-_- Hasbro, I could sucker punch you in the kidneys right now. My poor wallet hates you.

This.

Reason why my recent pick ups were all from the EZ collections line. I really hate Tomy/Hasbro.

Guessing you meant SCROUNGE... the lil yellow guy?

As for naming, of course Hasbro has to pay dough to keep those trademarks, so it's no surprise some get lost over the years. I can ignore that and call them the old name in my own home.

Also no surprise they let violent or weapon related names expire. If you can't say the toys name walking through an airport or public school, then it's probably a candidate to be changed. (Speaking of Hardshell's old name here.)

gothsaurus wrote:Guessing you meant SCROUNGE... the lil yellow guy?

As for naming, of course Hasbro has to pay dough to keep those trademarks, so it's no surprise some get lost over the years. I can ignore that and call them the old name in my own home.

Also no surprise they let violent or weapon related names expire. If you can't say the toys name walking through an airport or public school, then it's probably a candidate to be changed. (Speaking of Hardshell's old name here.)

Nope. I really meant the new "wing" Scourge form and not the flying G1 bathtub. Take a look at his legs.

Btw, what a coincidence......old Takara catalogs designated Scourge as a UFO too. And your mentioning Blaster's buddy in Marvel TF#17 and 18 story line just gave Hasbro an excuse for a repaint. So should royalties be in the pipeline?

Rated X wrote:Once again, I was under the assumption that these were going to be scout sized when they revealeed them at Botcon. I already got a Legends Cosmos. If they would have made this one in scout or small deluxe class, I would have been very happy. But Igear Cosmos still reigns supreme due to a better scale. As cool as Shrapnel is, I have little interest in him because the Insecticons are new "seekers". You will never get all three in one scale or figure line. Fansproject did it. Why not Hasbro ?

I'm in line with your thinking. Why not do a 3-pack of the insecticons, a la FansProject?
Personally, I think Cosmos should be between iGear and Hasbro's new scale... scout would be nice. Still, anyone who complains about Cosmos has not had the pleasure of touching the iGear model - it's damn near perfect. I wouldn't really expect Hasbro's version to approach it, and in that respect, this new Cosmos looks a little wonky to me. His legs and arms just seem off... and the long torso, too.

Rated X wrote:But having figures that stand up to Primes kneecaps is rather silly looking in my opinion. Scout class just makes more sense from a G1 cartoon perspective. Hasbro Windcharger was the perfect scale. The picture shown here was taken at an angle looking down slightly to make Prime seem shorter so the Legends Bee doesnt look so small.

Agreed again! I saw the Windcharger in that pic and died a little inside. Cause, to me, it's one of the best size classes of TF's, including cool alt modes and relatively simple transformations. It just killed me the day I went to the toy store and realized Hasbro had unceremoniously put a bullet in the Scout's head!

A flying saucer paired with a Space Shuttle, I love it!

I wish Shrapnel came with Chop Shop instead, mostly since I really don't want a Megatron or Reflector, but also because Stag Beetle Duo > Stag Beetle and... a Camera.

For what these are, I really like the look of them.

Seeing them both makes me want to go back and get BB, IDW Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream.

megatronus wrote:For what these are, I really like the look of them.

Seeing them both makes me want to go back and get BB, IDW Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream.

You'll be sorry if you don't.

What's with all the mistransformations on the Skrapnel pics.

I've long given up on trying to get figures in scale with each other so I'm perfectly happy of pairing Skrapnel with FOC Kickback. All I need now is Bombshell. I tried using Prime Hardshell but his aesthetic is too different to work.

I would totally give Chop Shop to Skrapnel and Reflector to Megatron.

But Reflector is designed to transform into Shrapnel's old gun.

RiddlerJ wrote:But Reflector is designed to transform into Shrapnel's old gun.

Is that what that is?... oh yeah! that´s very cool! but I would still pair The Insecticons together, just for kicks.

RiddlerJ wrote:What's with all the mistransformations on the Skrapnel pics.

I was wondering the same... cause Skrapnel looks like crap in alt mode. Was the photographer just new? Cause one look at the pictures and I'm already seeing how the calves aren't folded over the thighs properly...

RiddlerJ wrote:But Reflector is designed to transform into Shrapnel's old gun.

(not directed personally at you)
I guess if the overall aesthetic is "F*CK Reflector!" then, yeah, I see where you're coming from. But you know what? I'd kill for Reflector to get his own, PROPER update!

Photron is a nice substitute and all, but I'd really dig a more G1-accurate Reflector, that wasn't some lame-ass, gimmicky gun add-on!

El Duque wrote:And the hits just keep coming from Amazon! We now have high quality official images for Transformers Generations Legends Cosmos with Payload and Skrapnel (Shrapnel) with Reflector. As with the previous updated listing these include shots of each figures packaging. Check em out below:

For what it's worth these come from the Amazon Canada site. Amazon US hasn't been updated yet as far as I know

these little dudes look great. I've already got the FP Nonsecticons but Skrapnel is a cool name, and a nice looking bot, so I'll pick him up, even if just to be a clone. Cosmos and Payload are decent too. Definitely got a Scourge feeling off the Cosmos legs too.

Cosmos is a definite buy as is the Swerve from the earlier report. Shrapnel... aww hell, even though I don't like the looks of him or Reflector all that much the G1'er in me will probably snag 'em just on general principle. If they release the other two in the same size range that will just be a sweet bonus.

I'm actually liking the Generations Legends figures quite a bit. The articulation has improved greatly over previous Legends figures and for someone like myself who is short on both cash and space, these work perfectly. Allows me to still enjoy the hobby of collecting Transformers without breaking the wallet and overloading my very limited storage/display space. I'm going to have to do some backtracking and pick up previous releases if at all possible but I certainly wont be missing any more releases of these from here on out.

Looks great. Can't wait for a Gears retool.

I have to say if these were coming out more than two a wave or perhaps monthly I'd only be buying these figures... no, no I wouldn't; no self control.