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DevastaTTor wrote:Autobot032 wrote:orangeitis wrote:First of all, opinion may differ on all of them, not just ol' CJ there. Second, the FEs are originally Hasbro's too. And what else is Hasbro's? CHUGs, the figures from the movie trilogy, the Animated line... their track record is just as good as it is bad IMO. I don't see how there's more of a chance of Hasbro making a crappier figure.PrimeStriker wrote:orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
.....Have you not seen what Hasbro does to molds already made? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Starscream, and (opinion may differ here) Cliffjumper all suffer from being worse than their original molds. Hasbro is more than likely to screw it up than fix it.
Hasbro isn't releasing Breakdown here, so it's a moot point, really. And Hasbro's toys are getting thinner and cheaper in terms of quality. No reason to be tooting Hasbro's horn. I bought FOC Jazz today and it feels like junk.
I wonder if Hasbro/TT is going to reserve the good plastic for MP figures from now on, leaving the standard releases lighter and more fragile. The issue with figures getting smaller is a problem across the board.
Gearslide wrote:Goodness. All I wanted to point out is that this particular mold wouldn't be suitable in an American market, and that I understood Hasbro's reasons for not bringing it over! This wasn't supposed to be a Hasbro bashing thread or anything.
Based on my experience with the figure, I strongly feel that Hasbro won't ever release it or any iteration of it in this market. It's just too fragile for the rough-housing a lot of kids will do with it. MAYBE if Hasbro beefed up the plastic on it, it could pass as a First Edition (or equivalent) figure.
I do think, however, that Hasbro will release their own mold. Considering that the Prime series isn't a filler line, like Fall of Cybertron, I'm sure Hasbro will take designing a Breakdown figure seriously.
DevastaTTor wrote:I wonder if Hasbro/TT is going to reserve the good plastic for MP figures from now on, leaving the standard releases lighter and more fragile. The issue with figures getting smaller is a problem across the board.
njb902 wrote:It's to early to jump to any conclusions, though it is a distressing trend. time will tell I supose.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
xyl360 wrote:Right out of the packaging, one of the leg panels that's supposed to rotate and fold around to form the leg panel was detached. I popped it back on easily enough, but those panels are pretty loose. They're plugged on in a similar fashion to Knockout's wheels. I'll just have to be careful when transforming him not to get to rough with those parts to avoid popping them off again.
Overall, I'm pleased with the figure so I'm glad I got it.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
DevastaTTor wrote:Autobot032 wrote:orangeitis wrote:First of all, opinion may differ on all of them, not just ol' CJ there. Second, the FEs are originally Hasbro's too. And what else is Hasbro's? CHUGs, the figures from the movie trilogy, the Animated line... their track record is just as good as it is bad IMO. I don't see how there's more of a chance of Hasbro making a crappier figure.PrimeStriker wrote:orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
.....Have you not seen what Hasbro does to molds already made? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Starscream, and (opinion may differ here) Cliffjumper all suffer from being worse than their original molds. Hasbro is more than likely to screw it up than fix it.
Hasbro isn't releasing Breakdown here, so it's a moot point, really. And Hasbro's toys are getting thinner and cheaper in terms of quality. No reason to be tooting Hasbro's horn. I bought FOC Jazz today and it feels like junk.
I wonder if Hasbro/TT is going to reserve the good plastic for MP figures from now on, leaving the standard releases lighter and more fragile. The issue with figures getting smaller is a problem across the board.
Gearslide wrote:Wow, this thread is doing a better job at staying alive than Breakdown did!
But anyways, for those of you with the Breakdown toy, did anyone place the Decepticon faction stickers on his door like the instructions call for? Because I did not, since they are not there in the show.
xyl360 wrote:Gearslide wrote:Wow, this thread is doing a better job at staying alive than Breakdown did!
But anyways, for those of you with the Breakdown toy, did anyone place the Decepticon faction stickers on his door like the instructions call for? Because I did not, since they are not there in the show.
I didn't put any stickers on him yet. I don't like most of them, those bright chrome stickers just don't fit in with his drab looks on the show so I think I might leave him as is or paint him a bit.
I'm displaying him in bot mode, so compared to the show, even without stickers, he looks pretty accurate. In fact, he's one of the most show-accurate characters I've seen from the line so far (Hasbro or Takara). He looks great standing next to Takara FE Bulkhead. I just have to be careful that they don't try to kill each other as I doubt I'd be able to easily replace either of them given how popular those two partiular figures are.
Gearslide wrote:xyl360 wrote:Gearslide wrote:Wow, this thread is doing a better job at staying alive than Breakdown did!
But anyways, for those of you with the Breakdown toy, did anyone place the Decepticon faction stickers on his door like the instructions call for? Because I did not, since they are not there in the show.
I didn't put any stickers on him yet. I don't like most of them, those bright chrome stickers just don't fit in with his drab looks on the show so I think I might leave him as is or paint him a bit.
I'm displaying him in bot mode, so compared to the show, even without stickers, he looks pretty accurate. In fact, he's one of the most show-accurate characters I've seen from the line so far (Hasbro or Takara). He looks great standing next to Takara FE Bulkhead. I just have to be careful that they don't try to kill each other as I doubt I'd be able to easily replace either of them given how popular those two partiular figures are.
Well, as far show accuracy goes, the important stickers are the bumper sticker (like, the entire bumper is one massive sticker), his kneecaps (the silver pieces, the black aren't that important), his waist-lights, his headlights, and those red and blue strips that go over the rear wheel plates.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
NOOO SPOILERSGearslide wrote:Wow, this thread is doing a better job at staying alive than Breakdown did!
orangeitis wrote:NOOO SPOILERSGearslide wrote:Wow, this thread is doing a better job at staying alive than Breakdown did!
Eeeeh my fault for being too cheap for premium cable.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Sweet, thanks!PrimeStriker wrote:Awesome post
Hierophant wrote:Not bashing on anyone here (honest!) but I always had a glee when people complained about Tak's breakdown being fragile when the figure itself is purely catered for a different audience in a different country. I'd say them asians have quite good hands, able to pose and transform the figure well unlike us having a problem one after another![]()
On a flipside though, I would consider (read: speculation) that Tak's take on Breakdown's fragile plastic is their answer to uhm, prices of plastics nowadays. unlike hasbro which retains overall sturdiness but simpler transformation and size with their figures (FoC vs WFC?) while Tak prolly goes on the alternative route to retain the same size and transformation complexity, all the while reducing the mass as a whole. Now when I look at it, it's pretty much explains why Breakdown is lighter than previous line figures all the while on par with FE's level of transformation.
If Tak's route is truly that (same complexity, but thinner plastic in return) is their answer, I know it won't bode well with many people, but for me that's fine and I'm all for it. It teaches me to be more careful with my collection![]()
And guys, in the end of the day, it's the brand/figure that we all know and love. If you guys buy it with flaws and everything but still happy at the end, it's cool! Cheers all~
xyl360 wrote: I believe it's a matter of dealing with the bottom line, whether it's the price of plastics, the cost of labor, or a simple reaction to inflation or anything else is anyone's guess, but the reality is, toys are made cheaper now than they once were and it's only getting worse at this point.
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