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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:15 am

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I was too busy writing More Than Meets The Eye to witness the birth of my second child.

That’s not strictly true; in fact, it was a big fat lie to get your attention.

I was writing MTMTE a few days before Kid B was born. We’re not even talking labour, so you can't judge me. I was sitting next to the hospital bed at 11pm, notebook on my lap, trying to decide what to put in Brainstorm’s briefcase. And I was also thinking up cool names for spaceships, just like any other 34 year old expectant father.

It was December 2010 - a full 12 months before The Death of Optimus Prime, the one-shot that I co-wrote with John Barber. A few nights earlier, Andy Schmidt had offered me one of the two ongoings that would rise from the ashes of Mike Costa’s Chaos storyline. Not that it was called Chaos. On the IDW story document, it was just called EVENT. And after EVENT came SCHISM. And after that, Rodimus and Drift (“and others TBD”) set off to find the Knights of Cybertron. At least the Knights were mentioned by name…

Anyway, Andy had made the offer and I was now starting to pull together the crew and the stories. “Plan for 12 issues, 16 at a stretch” – that’s what I was told.

The weeks after the birth passed in a blur, as they would have done even if I hadn’t been trying to work out why the Autobots would be silly enough to put Overlord in the basement. And was Frail Light a good name for a spaceship? Stolen Light? *Something* light, definitely.

First issue. What should that be like? Transformers does Magnolia. Separate lives – separate threads – pulling together. A metaphor for the series (he says in hindsight). Powerglide trapped underground. A blink, and the war’s come and gone. He’s our surrogate. Magnus the grump. Rodimus the worst captain ever, but the BEST captain if you’re a writer. Drift… Drift… can’t get a handle on bloody Drift.

A little detour: I ask Andy if I can write a one-shot about Megatron, because I love the character and he’s just surrendered and my GOD what an opportunity to get inside his head. Impactor will be in it, and the DJD, and… no. Just him and Optimus. A two-hander. Red Dwarf’s Marooned meets Dostoyevsky’s Brothers Karamazov, because sometimes Transformers needs to be pretentious.

Alex Milne’s on pencils – it’s the first time we’ve worked together and hell’s bells the man can draw – and Joana Lafuente’s on colors. She’s an alchemist; each page is transformed. The one-shot is slotted into Mike’s ongoing, and one issue becomes two, and – somehow – in exploring why Megatron is the way he is, and in looking at a world bent out of shape by Functionism, MTMTE suddenly lays down roots.

Summer 2011, swimming at Saints Bay, aiming for a buoy that never seems to get any closer. On the shore, by my towel, another notebook; this one containing random words like ‘Delphi’ and ‘Pharma/Farmer’ and ‘sound bomb’; and, in big letters on the inside cover, ‘Justice League International’.

I’m inches from the buoy, and something happens that very rarely happens: a sustained rush of ideas. Fort Max, a hostage situation, Overlord, and Rewind projecting snuff movies onto the wall of Rung’s office. One of my favourite MTMTE stories, ‘Interiors’, takes shape by the time I’m heading back to shore. And when I get back to shore… Lost Light. That’s the one. Nice and alliterative.

The first six issues would be written by the time Death of Optimus Prime comes out in December 2011. Six issues, people. Six issues ahead. Something that would never happen again.

In the months leading up to Christmas I rewrite issue 1, spreading it over two issues (John’s suggestion, and a good one). The rewrite makes me more disciplined: I take the Delphi two-parter back off IDW and polish it, tightening the dialog. I’m getting a sense of how an issue of MTMTE should sound.

January 2012, a week or two after the youngest’s first birthday, and MTMTE #1 comes out. For nearly a year it’s had a typically smart arse placeholder name, ‘Launch Issue’, because, you know, the Lost Light takes off and there’s a problem – it explodes – and I know, I know, it’s awful. In the end, I subvert a Dexys Midnight Runners song title, ‘Liars, A to E’, and recycle the title of the first chapter of Eugenesis. Because if you think something sounds good you shouldn’t be afraid to show it to a wider audience.

The incomparable Nick Roche has by now designed our crew (Look at Whirl! Look at Magnus!) and is handling the interior art in issue #1. He’s also responsible for the JLI cover. (Yes, it’s been done to death, but to me, that cover and Alex Milne’s cover to the first trade… those images sum up MTMTE better than anything else I can think of.) Nick’s lines and Josh Burcham’s colors turn my try-hard script into a proper story. The characters feel real because they look real, and all of a sudden… we’re off.

Alex Milne arrives with issue #2 and makes the book his own. You think of MTMTE now and you don’t see my words in your mind, you see Alex’s lines. The noses, the floating question marks, sexy Rung, glowering Magnus… all down to him.

By Spring 2012 we’ve properly launched. We’re aloft. And somehow we’ve stayed aloft for 57 issues. Three months short of five years. I’m proud of that. I’m proud of Alex and Josh and Joana and Nick and Brendan Cahill and James Riaz and Atilio Rojo and Hayato Sakamoto and everyone else who has channelled their creative energies into the book.

I can’t really put into words what MTMTE means to me, which is a shameful admission coming from a writer. I suppose I live it through you, the people who read it. It sounds odd, but… I love that it has a readership! I love that people like it enough to read it! Because it’s a weird little book. It is. There’s not much fighting in it, and there’s not much transforming in it, and we haven’t refreshed the main cast in nearly five years, and in order to enjoy properly you kind of have to remember plot details for 40 issues ago, and we periodically kill people that you care about, and sometimes we focus on characters who never even existed as toys, and… yeah. God knows how it’s survived so long.

Actually, that’s another lie. I do know how it’s survived so long. It’s survived so long because my collaborators are all geniuses, and because IDW and Hasbro are supportive and committed, and because you – jaded G1-ers and jaded millennials alike – care enough to keep reading.

And MTMTE isn’t over. Let me restate that after pressing caps lock: MTMTE IS NOT OVER. The story continues under a different set of covers. You know that by now. Lost Light #1, December 2016. Because let me tell you – let me assure you – the MTMTE story is massive. It has a beginning, middle and end, and both IDW and I are determined to see it through. When we’re done you’ll know we’re done. And we’re not done yet. Not by a long shot.

So here we are. Here I am, nearly six years after sitting in that maternity ward. One has to be careful about disclosing too much on social media, and I’ve always avoided mentioning either of my children by name. But today is a special occasion, and so perhaps it’s appropriate that I share a little more than usual. I hereby dedicate the first 57 issues of the MTMTE/Lost Light saga to the little boy born days after I was given the best job of my life.

Minimus Dominus Rodimus Ambus Roberts... this one’s for you.
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:28 am

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As an aspiring writer, I can confirm this is pretty much exactly what coming up with ideas and collating them into a story is like. This crazy rush of inspiration coming from nowhere and all these "okay what do I call it"s and "OH MY GOD this would be an AMAZING way for this to work"s.
Aside from, uh, the baby. I mean I'm sure it's like that for a lot of writers but unless someone's kept me out of the loop on these things, I certainly don't have a baby.
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:37 pm

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That was an enjoyable read. It really does mean a lot when people like your work and continue to invest in it, and I'm glad he's so dedicated to it
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:29 am

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Anyone else really desperate for a third party to make a carformer Cerebros now btw?

I'd also totally take a third party upgrade for Generations Red Alert into IDW Red Alert, just saying.

At that point though Prowl would be the only part of the Luna 1 squad that I'd use an official figure for, and he's so tall and imposing in IDW I'd probably go Masterpiece :lol:
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:29 pm

I enjoyed that. I am certain he didn't name is child that, but if he did name the kid Rodimus Roberts, that would have been pretty awesome. And ballsy. He could have called the kid Rod for short. And he asked how did MTMTE survive this long? Simple. Very good story telling. It does have its faults, obviously, one which was mentioned by Roberts himself: not enough fighting. I would like to see some more ass-kicking in the book. I really thought if Megatron was going to let loose at the end of Dying of The Light, it would have been more than the couple of panels we got. Anyway, I was going to take a break from MTMTE after Dying of The Light, but honestly now I can't wait until December when Lost Light starts. I'm very intrigued.
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:49 pm

I just read the issue (had not gone to the comic shop in a while). I found it very underwhelming, especially how Sentinelis taken out at the end. It really read like a cop out. And its interesting how they retconned that Sentinel was a headmaster all along (no one knew?). Nice seeing Fort Max in this comic, thatayed off for those hoping that there would be fiction for the toy. Although I still dont know why we needed that when we have a ton of other fiction related to that G1 toy.
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Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye Nominated for Best of 2016 Sci-Fi Comic

Postby Va'al » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:24 am

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It's a comics busy week, for IDW Publishing and its Transformers books! Comics and entertainment website Comics Alliance - who can always afford more exclusives than us - have Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye nominated in their Best of 2016, Sci-Fi category, alongside big hitters like Saga, Cave Carson has a Cybernetic Eye and Bitch Planet. What say you, TFandom? Time to roll out? Check out the full voting page here!

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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:29 pm

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Well, I cast my vote for MTMTE and Vision. Vision was freakin' insane!
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Easy Tiger » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:16 pm

Wait - Huffer's in that picture. Huffer's not in MTMTE. Is Huffer going to be in MTMTE? I want Huffer in MTMTE!
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:31 pm

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Easy Tiger wrote:Wait - Huffer's in that picture. Huffer's not in MTMTE. Is Huffer going to be in MTMTE? I want Huffer in MTMTE!

Huffer's been aboard the Lost Light for some time. The image includes a lot of Lost Light crewmembers who aren't necessarily main players or even pull in more than background appearances, like Grapple.
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:27 pm

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This is the second time MTMTE has been up for some good comic reward. Wow!
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Easy Tiger » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:06 pm

Wait - Huffer's in that picture. Huffer's not in MTMTE. Is Huffer going to be in MTMTE? I want Huffer in MTMTE!
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IDW More Than Meets The Eye Wins 2016 Best Sci-Fi Comic Vote

Postby Va'al » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:17 pm

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Remember that Comics Alliance nomination for the Best 2016 Sci-Fi comic, for IDW Publishing's Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye? Well, we have news of the good kind for the entire creative team behind the book, from Roberts to Milne, to Lafuente, Long, Barber, and the rotating artists, colourers, inkers and more: They won! Check out more info below, and head here to see the rest of the list!

Winner: Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye
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It’s monumentally difficult for a story to shift between cosmic space opera, alternate universes, sitcom comedy, heartbreaking romance, 4,000,000 years of wartime anxiety, and the kind of action that makes you afraid to turn the page and risk your favorite characters, without also being a mess of tonal whiplash, but James Roberts, Alex Milne, Joana Lafuente and crew did it every single issue with every single character — and I remind you, many of these characters are talking pickup trucks. [Chris Sims]


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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximus_Prime » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:44 pm

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That is awesome, good work to all of them :APPLAUSE:
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:44 pm

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Well deserved :APPLAUSE:
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Black Bumblebee » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:02 pm

Congrats! Still my favorite Transformer comic series. Will it get dethroned by Lost Light? Only time will tell! :-)
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Microraptor » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:25 pm

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Very, very richly deserved. Congratulations to the creative team!
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:49 pm

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Panini Comics to Release Italian Translation of IDW Transformers, MTMTE

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:34 pm

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Much to your admin's two minds about it all,* Panini Comics - who publish the Italian translations of Marvel comics - will be releasing the Italian translation of IDW Publishing's Transformers, starting from The Death of Optimus Prime! The first volume, due in May, will include the not-really-a-one-shot and the first three issues of More Than Meets the Eye from way back when. Check out the new blurb, in translation and including the original Italian spelling of the brand 'Trasformers', below!

With a new film due in cinemas soon, the new Trasformers series debuts in Italy! With The Death of Optimus Prime! we find a new beginning for Autobots and Decepticons, in a fierce war for the past several millennia. All robots are called back to home planet Cybertron from Earth... and here the problems begin! Is it actually easy to leave war behind you?


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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:35 pm

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*yay IDW TFs in Italian! Boo it's not me translating them!
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Itsacardgame » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:03 pm

The catch being that you have to collect each panel in random packs of stickers.
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:01 pm

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Panini? Back in the 80's we had some collectable sticker albums of various shows (Voltron, Thundercats etc...) that were distributed by a company with this name...I wonder if its the same or just a coincidence?
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby DR0hNO » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:31 am

If i remember correctly Panini also do the UK reprints for Marvel, so maybe they also reprint them over in the UK.
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby Microraptor » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:07 pm

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Didn't they used to do the armada comics?
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Re: IDW More Than Meets The Eye #57 Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:23 am

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I was gonna ask Va'al if he did any translation on these. Too bad.

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