IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:48 am
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I know throughout his work, Furman had his favourites that always had their time to shine (Galvatron, Grimlock etc). This is another example of that. Shockwave is clearly one of Robert's biggest favourites, obvious since the overly convoluted Shadowplay.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:05 pm
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ZeroWolf wrote:...but Roberts doesn't write op, barber does.
And? Barber didn't write Shadowplay or Dark Cybertron, of which this entire characterisation of Shockwave is based on. It's certainly not based on Furman's iteration from Spotlight and Maximum Dinobots.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by ScottyP Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:13 pm
Barber and Roberts co-wrote all 12 issues of Dark Cybertron.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:...but Roberts doesn't write op, barber does.
And? Barber didn't write Shadowplay or Dark Cybertron, of which this entire characterisation of Shockwave is based on. It's certainly not based on Furman's iteration from Spotlight and Maximum Dinobots.
I think this version of Shockwave is very heavily the Furman/G1 character, with a new wrinkle in his backstory. I would agree that he reads funny now but it's one reason that I hold out hope for the "Shockwave done it" twist really being "Liege Maximo is making it look like Shockwave done it"
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by snavej Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:43 pm
Randomhero wrote:snavej wrote:How is it a 'black hole' when it doesn't consume the entire planet? It's something else, like a portal. The use of the wrong term is just IDW 'bigging itself up'.
It’s an artificial black hole. It’s not a natural one that doesn’t follow the same physics as a regular black hole.
If megaton can use space bride technology to siphon the dark matter of a black hole to power himself up from his eyes than a small stable black hole can exist on Cybertron.
It’s also a comic book about giant alien robots fighting where prime once opened the matrix and reformatted an entire planet into a primordial state sooooo yeah. Maybe not try to base it too much in reality.
Space brides? Can we order them online?!
'Megaton' should be 'Megatron'. I never really agreed with the MTMTE depiction of that power. Why did he have to siphon antimatter from a black hole when he could get it much more easily from the quantum foam of empty space? It was stupid.
If the stories have little basis in reality, fundamental forces would be screwed. There would be true chaos. The stories would become impossible to understand. They wouldn't be very entertaining and would be rather pointless. There has to be considerable basis in reality for the stories to be meaningful.
The real problem here is arts graduates failing to grasp science but arrogantly trying to style it out.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by snavej Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:53 pm
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Knights of Cybertron are linked to Shockwave and/or Auto-Megatron in the alternate universe. Just makes the scope of IDWverse seem so.. small and unambitious.
I know throughout his work, Furman had his favourites that always had their time to shine (Galvatron, Grimlock etc). This is another example of that. Shockwave is clearly one of Robert's biggest favourites, obvious since the overly convoluted Shadowplay.
Don't forget the cross-dressing Overlord, who was sent into the past and future in 'Requiem for the Wreckers'! As you do.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:07 pm
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See, when IDWverse first started it was huge, in scale. The Great War was stretched out across the galaxy. Earth was just one of many fronts it was being waged on. The entire cast was spread out as cells waging a war of attrition on seemingly every planet in this universe.
Since then, everyone has more or less been piled back into Earth, Cybertron and the Lost Light. Expansion through the Colony Worlds did overall very little to readdress that, as all of the speaking characters were put on Cybertron anyway.
It's just quite sad really, to see all that promise squandered.
ScottyP wrote:I would agree that he reads funny now
That's just it. In his (brilliant) Spotlight, he seeded a primitive world with Energon for experimentation. Yet in spite of the awesome act of defeating the entire Dynobots single-handedly, was ultimately caught out by a sneak attack from Grimlock. That to me, just doesn't mesh with This infallible Shockwave, that has been planning unbeatable schemes from the shadows for ages.
He went from 'Brainiac' to 'Darkseid'.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by ZeroWolf Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:09 pm
Unless of course the story is depicted as a very realistic tale with no fantastical elements, then fire away.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:17 pm
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ZeroWolf wrote:...Roberts didn't write requiem, and Roberts didn't write op. This isn't hard to understand.

Who was talking about Requiem? Or op for that matter. I was making an observation about Shockwave, his role within op and his characterisation.
ZeroWolf wrote: If you want to argue that the characters are being written in the style of another writer's characterisation, then that makes sense but is still silly as the writer will build on the previous work.
Tying in the Ore thing perhaps, but this is Robert's Shockwave, not Furman's. As noted above ^
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:43 pm
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Full Preview of IDW Transformers Optimus Prime TPB Volume 3
Posted by Va'al Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:53 pm
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Transformers: Optimus Prime, Vol. 3
John Barber (w) • Kei Zama, Priscilla Tramontano, Casey Coller (a)
What new future will the Transformers bots face? With Optimus Prime trapped on Cybertron, embroiled in the First Strike event, the Autobots on Earth set off on a mission to find their missing friend, Jazz. But anti-Cybertronian humans are after him as well, and they're armed with Cybertronian weapons! Collects Optimus Prime issues #11–14 and the Optimus Prime: First Strike and Transformers: First Strike one-shots.
TPB • FC • $19.99 • 144 pages • ISBN: 978-1-68405-270-7
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by steve2275 Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:53 am
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by Va'al Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:55 pm
steve2275 wrote:WHEN does this coming out?
This week, if schedule is correct! You probably need to order it from your local comics shop.
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Variant Cover Art for IDW Transformers Optimus Prime #20 by Kei Zama
Posted by Va'al Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:09 am
And as you can see, we're leaning heavily into Onyx Prime's beastly presence, with a fantastic homage to the Beast Wars continuity, featuring Optimus Primal, Megatron, and the Beast Wars II Nemesis ocular planet-ship used in the series so far. Take a look below, and beware of the ..'spoiler' of sorts in the solicit blurb!
Optimus Prime #20 Retailer Incentive Comic Book Cover
IDW PUBLISHING
APR180353
(W) John Barber (A/CA) Kei Zama
"The Falling," Part 5. Optimus Prime has faced defeat before and come back... but he's never seen anything like this. Beyond life, beyond death-only the wisdom of an old friend can save him. Meanwhile, Victorion battles Devastator... and only one will survive.
The return of Bumblebee! One shall rise, one shall fall, but who will destroy them all?
In Shops: Jul 11, 2018
SRP: PI
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by ScottyP Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:58 pm
Hopefully more than the Spooky Onyx Bodyguards role that they have so far! Don't have a shred of a concrete idea though. Certainly does have me reflecting on how wildly different members of the Beast Wars cast have been handled.ZeroWolf wrote:That's some stellar art there of bw op and megs but do they play any part at all?
Rhinox is ancient, presumably died a long time ago - unless he's Fat Tankor now which would be fine. Rattrap schemes for Prowl. Tigatron and Airazor are on the Council of Worlds. Cheetor and Blackarachnia were introduced but never had their plot or Eukaris' go anywhere and are presumably in Unicron's tummy. Primal, Megatron, and a massive host of others have been in Onyx's entourage. The universe still hates Waspinator, but at least he survived the Visionaries crossover and his temporary Thrustinator reformatting!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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New Listing for IDW Optimus Prime Volume 5
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End of the Road! The Autobots are faced with mutliple threats, one of them a danger not only to Cybertron, but to the whole Universe!
Trapped between Shockwave’s attack and Unicron’s onslaught, Optimus and the Autobots struggle to make sense of what’s left of their world, as Optimus’ colonist soldiers contend with a brutal reality–they have no homes to return to. Plus, Shockwave reveals ancient truths–as an old friend tries to reconnect with Cybertron.
Collects the 2018 Annual and issues #22-25, which conclude the series.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by Va'al Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:26 am
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by Va'al Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:21 am
william-james88 wrote:If we already know the cover then why hide it?
Not everyone follows the solicits or the single issue releases, and may not want the Shockwave and Bumblebee spoiler so many months in advance of the trade release.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread
Posted by ScottyP Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:32 am
Some guy at Penguin publishing was probably just following a well-intended note from IDW.william-james88 wrote:If we already know the cover then why hide it?
Alternately, the cover Va'al sleuthed out is a red herring. We know Alpha Bravo will save the universe so he probably gets the last cover
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