ThatOneMoose wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.
And Barral Roll so we could have Co-op
I've begun to read IDW and am not too far in yet to phase two. Can you guys explain (spoiler-free please) why alpha bravo's such a b@d@$$? Just curious and want to be in on what everyone else is in on.
Caelus wrote:Va'al wrote:Caelus wrote:Great post of great things.
You and your partner have a good set of minds, right there!
Thank youVa'al wrote:EDIT: Also, I'd really like for the underwhelming fate of Solus Prime in the Covenant to be rectified in the IDW continuity. In Barber/Scott/Roberts I trust.
AGREED.
Really wild speculation - In an attempt to prevent "Megatron" as we know him from existing, Brainstorm ends up killing Megatronus before Solus Prime can be killed. A tad extreme to kill a deity to prevent a despot, perhaps, but Brainstorm would have the means (either by using his Dead Universe research or by, you know, just warning Solus) and when it comes down to it, Solus Prime would have to be Brainstorm's idol - saving her could make Cybertron Brainstorm's ideal home.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:ThatOneMoose wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.
And Barral Roll so we could have Co-op
I've begun to read IDW and am not too far in yet to phase two. Can you guys explain (spoiler-free please) why alpha bravo's such a b@d@$$? Just curious and want to be in on what everyone else is in on.
There's no way to explain it without spoilers. Buuuuuuuut because he's not really a major character and dosen't matter, Slingshot dies horribly near the end of the first run of Robots in disguise, before Dark Cybertron. Alpha Bravo takes the mantle left behind by him.
@MairghreadScott wrote: BTW, TF Fans, yes Mistress of Flame is one seriously tall lady.
Va'al wrote:How caught up are you with the comics?
Also, so far the Aligned Thirteen have been mentioned and hinted at, though do not follow the same layout as the Covenant has them in Barber's work. We'll have to see what happens once the concepts are expanded to other series too.
Va'al wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:ThatOneMoose wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.
And Barral Roll so we could have Co-op
I've begun to read IDW and am not too far in yet to phase two. Can you guys explain (spoiler-free please) why alpha bravo's such a b@d@$$? Just curious and want to be in on what everyone else is in on.
There's no way to explain it without spoilers. Buuuuuuuut because he's not really a major character and dosen't matter, Slingshot dies horribly near the end of the first run of Robots in disguise, before Dark Cybertron. Alpha Bravo takes the mantle left behind by him.
Also, he's totally the coolest. Like, for real.
ThatOneMoose wrote:Va'al wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:There's no way to explain it without spoilers. Buuuuuuuut because he's not really a major character and dosen't matter, Slingshot dies horribly near the end of the first run of Robots in disguise, before Dark Cybertron. Alpha Bravo takes the mantle left behind by him.
Also, he's totally the coolest. Like, for real.
I knew that Slingshot died, just wondering what makes him so cool. Is it just the fact that he stepped up to take Slingshot's place?
Janus Prime wrote:Flame, anyone? G1 Flame? maybe that´s where they´re going.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Optimizzy wrote:I didnt read every comment before this, so someone else may have touched on it:
Why do we assume that since she is a religious leader that that means she has some dark secret are is secretly evil?
Maybe she is *gasp* exactly what she says she is? Religions don't make people do bad things. Bad people use religion to justify their acts. Even if there was no religion, there would still be bad things, just different justifications.
In MTMTE storyline that showed us Star Saber, he was to represent one of the three pillars of society that has gone wrong, namely religion. Law and Medicine were also represented in an equally negative fashion.
If this new character turns out to be a bad guy, or even a negatively presented character, it will be a rather dull addition. I mean, we've seen that before, and in a far more engaging aspect.
//2 cents.
The Mistress of Flame is the leader of the only faith on Caminus, The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens. But fire can be as dangerous as it is helpful and the faith of Caminus burns hotter than any Cybertronian realizes.
shockblast2 wrote:"The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens"
This sounds like a bunch of mother nature, Gaia false goddess worship junk to me. And being incorporated into a flipping comic book of all things.
Geez........
All for the sake of being PC by making robots female or even male, which is absolutely INSANE and SILLY as they are robots. Gender is not applicable to a damn piece of silicon and metal.
Makes you wonder why a female writer incorporates this nonsense into a children's comic book? Is she pagan or something?
Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:I didnt read every comment before this, so someone else may have touched on it:
Why do we assume that since she is a religious leader that that means she has some dark secret are is secretly evil?
Maybe she is *gasp* exactly what she says she is? Religions don't make people do bad things. Bad people use religion to justify their acts. Even if there was no religion, there would still be bad things, just different justifications.
In MTMTE storyline that showed us Star Saber, he was to represent one of the three pillars of society that has gone wrong, namely religion. Law and Medicine were also represented in an equally negative fashion.
If this new character turns out to be a bad guy, or even a negatively presented character, it will be a rather dull addition. I mean, we've seen that before, and in a far more engaging aspect.
//2 cents.
True.
But this was Scott's take in the interview, with set the spark to the speculation game:The Mistress of Flame is the leader of the only faith on Caminus, The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens. But fire can be as dangerous as it is helpful and the faith of Caminus burns hotter than any Cybertronian realizes.
Optimizzy wrote:Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:I didnt read every comment before this, so someone else may have touched on it:
Why do we assume that since she is a religious leader that that means she has some dark secret are is secretly evil?
Maybe she is *gasp* exactly what she says she is? Religions don't make people do bad things. Bad people use religion to justify their acts. Even if there was no religion, there would still be bad things, just different justifications.
In MTMTE storyline that showed us Star Saber, he was to represent one of the three pillars of society that has gone wrong, namely religion. Law and Medicine were also represented in an equally negative fashion.
If this new character turns out to be a bad guy, or even a negatively presented character, it will be a rather dull addition. I mean, we've seen that before, and in a far more engaging aspect.
//2 cents.
True.
But this was Scott's take in the interview, with set the spark to the speculation game:The Mistress of Flame is the leader of the only faith on Caminus, The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens. But fire can be as dangerous as it is helpful and the faith of Caminus burns hotter than any Cybertronian realizes.
Did not catch that part. That's vague but it seems to be going in the direction of zealotry. Which is disappointing. I'm seeing that everywhere, in everything. Would have been nice for a change, but I guess we are going to do THAT story.
Is it to much to ask to have a story that features an organized religion that isn't centered on it's eventual corruption? I mean, such tings exist but not necessarily all the time, and not to all people. It just gets dull after a while.
Maybe they have the outlook that cybertronians are dangerous and want to burn them away like a cancer or something. That is a terrible thing, but also understandable given the vastly destructive nature of the cybertronians. "For the greater good" and "If my right hand offends me, cut it off" and such. I'm not cool with that attitude, but I could understand and see their reasoning.
Anyway, thanks for pointing that out to me Va'al.
Va'al wrote:Optimizzy wrote:I didnt read every comment before this, so someone else may have touched on it:
Why do we assume that since she is a religious leader that that means she has some dark secret are is secretly evil?
Maybe she is *gasp* exactly what she says she is? Religions don't make people do bad things. Bad people use religion to justify their acts. Even if there was no religion, there would still be bad things, just different justifications.
In MTMTE storyline that showed us Star Saber, he was to represent one of the three pillars of society that has gone wrong, namely religion. Law and Medicine were also represented in an equally negative fashion.
If this new character turns out to be a bad guy, or even a negatively presented character, it will be a rather dull addition. I mean, we've seen that before, and in a far more engaging aspect.
//2 cents.
True.
But this was Scott's take in the interview, with set the spark to the speculation game:The Mistress of Flame is the leader of the only faith on Caminus, The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens. But fire can be as dangerous as it is helpful and the faith of Caminus burns hotter than any Cybertronian realizes.
----shockblast2 wrote:"The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens"
This sounds like a bunch of mother nature, Gaia false goddess worship junk to me. And being incorporated into a flipping comic book of all things.
Geez........
All for the sake of being PC by making robots female or even male, which is absolutely INSANE and SILLY as they are robots. Gender is not applicable to a damn piece of silicon and metal.
Makes you wonder why a female writer incorporates this nonsense into a children's comic book? Is she pagan or something?
You're welcome to disagree, but please beware of steering into insulting behaviour.
(Paganism is a recognised religion - and as per the rules, we'd rather avoid attacks based on one's beliefs. Not saying you are, yet, but want to get in here before it degenerates. )
As to the gender issue - it's here to stay, everyone get over it please. Hasbro inserted it a long time ago, and made sure IDW would re-introduce it with Spotlight: Arcee. You want agender robots? This is not your franchise.
Comic books are not only for children, never have been, let's leave that quadruped also nice and buried.
Va'al wrote:
It would be a very interesting and intriguing direction, you are most correct. I wonder whether our speculation is in fact going too far into the potential readings of that 'dangerous' bit.
Maybe the Mistress of Fire and the Way of the Flame are not to blame, but some of its more zealous members are? That definitely seems to be the case so far with, say, Cyclonus and Star Saber.
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