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News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:28 pm

Va'al wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:So I'm going to guess she's going to be a bit like Doctor Zaius in that whilst leader of the faith and also progression of Caminun society; also she knows some deep terrible secret about the society present. Or Hell maybe she'll be like Father Comstock and might be a leader of a cult of sky racists I don't know at this rate.

Or she manipulates the faith/cult/power to her own ends. IDWverse has not shied away from showing religion under a negative light (e.g. Star Saber), but this would be the first critique of organised faith systems.

And I would love that. A great addition to the complex world-building at hand in the publisher's output since 2005!

Well then we're right back to the "The Lord forgives everything, but I'm just a prophet… so I don't have to." territory XD

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:31 pm

I don't think so! I think it could be more of a 'I am using all of this knowledge and power because my knowledge is their ignorance, and their ignorance is my power'. If Caminus is almost a theocratic system, a faith leader is immensely powerful, and has to keep that faith running.

And with what looks like a Forge of Solus lookalike in her hands, I'm guessing there'll be more exploring of the recent Barber overseen overlap between Aligned mythology and Guiding Hand.

I am so very stoked.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:32 pm

Va'al wrote:I don't think so! I think it could be more of a 'I am using all of this knowledge and power because my knowledge is their ignorance, and their ignorance is my power'. If Caminus is almost a theocratic system, a faith leader is immensely powerful, and has to keep that faith running.

And with what looks like a Forge of Solus lookalike in her hands, I'm guessing there'll be more exploring of the recent Barber overseen overlap between Aligned mythology and Guiding Hand.

I am so very stoked.

It will be predictable if it ends up like that.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:37 pm

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Va'al wrote:I don't think so! I think it could be more of a 'I am using all of this knowledge and power because my knowledge is their ignorance, and their ignorance is my power'. If Caminus is almost a theocratic system, a faith leader is immensely powerful, and has to keep that faith running.

And with what looks like a Forge of Solus lookalike in her hands, I'm guessing there'll be more exploring of the recent Barber overseen overlap between Aligned mythology and Guiding Hand.

I am so very stoked.

It will be predictable if it ends up like that.

Alpha Bravo will make sure it is not.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Va'al wrote:And with what looks like a Forge of Solus lookalike in her hands, I'm guessing there'll be more exploring of the recent Barber overseen overlap between Aligned mythology and Guiding Hand.

I wonder if that's going to come into play like those weird churches in like south Africa that claim they have the ark of covenant; but the won't let anyone see it; but they totes have it yo.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:39 pm

So are all Camiens female, or just part of the population?

Liking the Mistress of Flame. Dare I say she looks...hot?

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:42 pm

I hope she just seems to having a passing similarity to Melisande in GOT. I know GOT is drivel, but it's also entertaining, and this concept seems similar to the Red priestess of R'holler. But anyway, cool idea and beautiful artwork.

Firestar Prime?

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:43 pm

Mindmaster wrote:So are all Camiens female, or just part of the population?

TMS: Combiner Wars seems like it might offer more of a chance to examine the Metrotitan Caminus and the culture of his planet, being the only Transformers society (in the IDW continuity) to have developed gender. Or is that the kind of thing that might be left until after the event dust settles?

Note: Male is also a gender.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:44 pm

Va'al wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So are all Camiens female, or just part of the population?

TMS: Combiner Wars seems like it might offer more of a chance to examine the Metrotitan Caminus and the culture of his planet, being the only Transformers society (in the IDW continuity) to have developed gender. Or is that the kind of thing that might be left until after the event dust settles?

Note: Male is also a gender.

So... part of the population is female...?

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:46 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So are all Camiens female, or just part of the population?

TMS: Combiner Wars seems like it might offer more of a chance to examine the Metrotitan Caminus and the culture of his planet, being the only Transformers society (in the IDW continuity) to have developed gender. Or is that the kind of thing that might be left until after the event dust settles?

Note: Male is also a gender.

So... part of the population is female...?

Yes. I worry about your reading and comprehension skills sometimes.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:47 pm

Va'al wrote:
Alpha Bravo will make sure it is not.

Wonder what secrets lie under that mask

Like Alpha Bravo turning out to be Primus!

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:48 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So are all Camiens female, or just part of the population?

TMS: Combiner Wars seems like it might offer more of a chance to examine the Metrotitan Caminus and the culture of his planet, being the only Transformers society (in the IDW continuity) to have developed gender. Or is that the kind of thing that might be left until after the event dust settles?

Note: Male is also a gender.

So... part of the population is female...?

I'd assume so, part of the earth's population which has many-a-gender ; (apparently) part of the population has women in it.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:52 pm

My wife pointed out some surprising similarities between the Mistress's frame and Cybertron Ransack:

Transformers Cybertron Ransack (Gasket) Gallery

The Mistress of Flame lacks the wheels, but the shoulders, feet, and waistline loosely fit, suggesting she could have a similar transformation.

The Mrs. also pointed out that the three Caminans we've met so far - a city speaker, a quantum mechanic, and a super-aggressive warrior scream different aspects of Solus Prime, which makes me wonder if we're potentially looking at a theocratically driven caste system comparable to (as Silverhammer suggests) the Planet of the Apes' division between Orangutans, Chimps, and Gorillas.

This also all makes me wonder if Solus is still alive, and if so, what implications that has for the other story-lines. Alpha Trion is running about. Optimus, Galvatron, and Prowl are hunting the Matrix of Combination and have encountered the Onyx "corporation" on Earth, tying that story-line to two Primes, and Brainstorm's quest seems like it presents the possibility of him running afoul of Megatronus. And of course, we're also getting an Armada Megatron toy, so he's probably going to be in the comics somehow (maybe due to temporal shenanigans, perhaps an alternate version of Megatron who's drunk the functionist koolaid), and his enslavement of the disposable class/minicons could tie in with Micronus Prime, who was tight with Onyx, Nexus, and Solus.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:53 pm

Va'al wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So are all Camiens female, or just part of the population?

TMS: Combiner Wars seems like it might offer more of a chance to examine the Metrotitan Caminus and the culture of his planet, being the only Transformers society (in the IDW continuity) to have developed gender. Or is that the kind of thing that might be left until after the event dust settles?

Note: Male is also a gender.

So... part of the population is female...?

Yes. I worry about your reading and comprehension skills sometimes.

Six months later, and I'm still recovering from precalculus. To quote Megatron, "I worry it changed me." :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:55 pm

Caelus wrote:Great post of great things.

You and your partner have a good set of minds, right there!

EDIT: Also, I'd really like for the underwhelming fate of Solus Prime in the Covenant to be rectified in the IDW continuity. In Barber/Scott/Roberts I trust.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:57 pm

Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:59 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.

As we all should.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:00 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.

And Barral Roll so we could have Co-op

by **Ultra Markus** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:19 pm

MR Optimus Prime wrote:How very drol and NOT Transformers.

since G1 there have been many cybertronians that dont transform or look like they transform

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:32 pm

Va'al wrote:
Caelus wrote:Great post of great things.

You and your partner have a good set of minds, right there!

Thank you

Va'al wrote:EDIT: Also, I'd really like for the underwhelming fate of Solus Prime in the Covenant to be rectified in the IDW continuity. In Barber/Scott/Roberts I trust.

AGREED.

Really wild speculation - In an attempt to prevent "Megatron" as we know him from existing, Brainstorm ends up killing Megatronus before Solus Prime can be killed. A tad extreme to kill a deity to prevent a despot, perhaps, but Brainstorm would have the means (either by using his Dead Universe research or by, you know, just warning Solus) and when it comes down to it, Solus Prime would have to be Brainstorm's idol - saving her could make Cybertron Brainstorm's ideal home.

by **starwarrior1227** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:34 pm

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Interesting

I'm glad IDW is not afraid to evolve and make history go by just how real life does it.

Is this growth in female Cybertronians a bigger deal than I think it is? I know that the Transformers Franchise is pretty sparse of female bots, but I don't feel like this is a big deal (an improvement, definitely).

Anyways...
Dat art work is nice!

by **Moosey** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:34 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Liking the Mistress of Flame. Dare I say she looks...hot?

Glad to know I'm not the only one :lol:

.
EDIT: Dare I say she's... smokin'? :lol:

by **Moosey** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:41 pm

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh and also, maybe, may I interject, I totally want a bioshock-y Transformers game based of the IDW G1 continuity. It should follow Alpha Bravo.

And Barral Roll so we could have Co-op

I've begun to read IDW and am not too far in yet to phase two. Can you guys explain (spoiler-free please) why alpha bravo's such a b@d@$$? Just curious and want to be in on what everyone else is in on.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:41 pm

starwarrior1227 wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Interesting

I'm glad IDW is not afraid to evolve and make history go by just how real life does it.

Is this growth in female Cybertronians a bigger deal than I think it is? I know that the Transformers Franchise is pretty sparse of female bots, but I don't feel like this is a big deal (an improvement, definitely).

Anyways...
Dat art work is nice!

I'm saying that to reference the crybabies who say every new thing is horrible and that transformers is ruined forever.

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:44 pm

Va'al wrote:Comics and geek culture website The Mary Sue was also able to have a chat with IDW writer Mairghread Scott about the upcoming Windblade return with the beginning of Transformers: Combiner Wars - and we've copied a couple of snippets below! Read the full story here, and take a look at some preview art by Sarah Stone, too.

TMS: Combiner Wars seems like it might offer more of a chance to examine the Metrotitan Caminus and the culture of his planet, being the only Transformers society (in the IDW continuity) to have developed gender. Or is that the kind of thing that might be left until after the event dust settles?

MS: Combiner Wars is going to be our first real introduction to the planet Caminus (where Windblade is from) and the ‘Bots that live on it. It’s also our first time meeting transformers who are completely unlike the ones from Cybertron. Camiens are proud, devout and desperately in need of help and we see how that affects their dealings with Autobots, Decepticons and Starscream himself.

In fact, we have an exclusive sneak peek at of one of the most important members of Camian society, the Mistress of Flame. The Mistress of Flame is the leader of the only faith on Caminus, The Way of Flame, which worships a female Prime said to be the mother of all Camiens. But fire can be as dangerous as it is helpful and the faith of Caminus burns hotter than any Cybertronian realizes.

[...]

TMS: And finally: Is Windblade combining with anyone in the series? Are we looking at a potential metrotitan combiner (several bots transforming into a single larger bot)?

MS: Now that would be telling. But there will be a brand new combiner in our series. Who it is and how it gets made are things you’ll just have to read to find out.

I am real exited about this whole new setting and all the great stories that can come out of this. I dont like the name Camian, but I guess that already a done deal, bring on the great stories!