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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:01 am

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MrBlack wrote:On another topic: What's in the box???

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:09 am

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MrBlack wrote:On another topic: What's in the box???

I'm thinking the geo-bomb Fort Max mentioned in 46. He said the counsel made a bomb from Killmaster's design that could destroy planets, and it is small "size of an eyeball" said Crankcase. Maybe they intend to use it to kill hundreds of cons, Megatron, and any other robot that so happens to be there. It all comes down as a win for the counsel.



That's a better more believable theory than the ones of "it's rewind's spark" if that was the case one of them would be disappearing.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:15 am

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:34 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Where was the "Rewinds Spark" theory coming from?



A lot of people at TFW2005 believe that.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:36 am

However the weapon designed by the Counsel is red not blue
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:45 am

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Where was the "Rewinds Spark" theory coming from?

A lot of people at TFW2005 believe that.

Hmm, can see where that is coming from, but how would Rewinds spark mean anything here, though it could answer the question about what was in Overlord's hand.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:51 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Where was the "Rewinds Spark" theory coming from?

A lot of people at TFW2005 believe that.

Hmm, can see where that is coming from, but how would Rewinds spark mean anything here, though it could answer the question about what was in Overlord's hand.



I've seen that pointed out so many times and I just don't see it. It's two panels of his hand not in shot and it just feels like a conspiracy theory. "WE CANT SEE HIS LEFT HAND!" Okay? So?

I'm more curious about the memory Chromedome took out of Prowl when he he threatened him all the way back in issue 14. I think Chromedome knew Ambus was agent 113 and removed Ambus's memories of rewind so he'd become agent 113. Chromedome just didn't know that Ambus was the pet
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:28 am

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So Trailcutter gets some measure of revenge from the grave. I gotta hand it to Roberts, I did not see that coming. Intriguing, very intriguing indeed. Can't wait until the issue is released. Now I have to go back and read MTMTE from the point where Megatron joined them to make it make more sense.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:26 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:So Trailcutter gets some measure of revenge from the grave. I gotta hand it to Roberts, I did not see that coming. Intriguing, very intriguing indeed. Can't wait until the issue is released. Now I have to go back and read MTMTE from the point where Megatron joined them to make it make more sense.


Which makes zero sense because trailbreaker a force field are because he's a outlier. He's a mutant essentially. It's been stated you can't just replicate outlier tech but here megatron uses trailbreakers ability.

Which brings up a problem with the last issue. Outliers are Cybertronians who are forged. Brainstorm and Chromedome technically should not have had powers
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:40 pm

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In Brainstorm and Chromedome's case though, it was an artificial outlier ability, and it only lasted very briefly. They were not born natural outliers, but formatted like that.

And as for Trailcutter's shield: Maybe the panic bubble can still operate without him. He did say it is disconnected from his regular systems, so maybe that's how Megatron was able to use it
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:58 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:In Brainstorm and Chromedome's case though, it was an artificial outlier ability, and it only lasted very briefly. They were not born natural outliers, but formatted like that.

And as for Trailcutter's shield: Maybe the panic bubble can still operate without him. He did say it is disconnected from his regular systems, so maybe that's how Megatron was able to use it



I don't know. Force fields are part of his ability even his panic bubble was part of him, it's still based off him. Just doesn't seem plausible especially his ability has never been replicated before in 4 million years because he's an outlier.

Also I have issues with Velocity having abilities too. She's only been with the crew for a few months doesn't been possible she would have abilities either. Drift too, he's been away for like 2 years.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:05 pm

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I think with regards to the temporary outlier abilities, it is dependent on the one who has the nervous breakdown and spasms. I don't think it has anything to do with the actual recipient having been exposed to quantum energy, just the user.

and I'm not sure about Trailcutter. I just assume the panic bubble was built outside his normal operating system thus it can be used by others.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:08 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:15 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think with regards to the temporary outlier abilities, it is dependent on the one who has the nervous breakdown and spasms. I don't think it has anything to do with the actual recipient having been exposed to quantum energy, just the user.

and I'm not sure about Trailcutter. I just assume the panic bubble was built outside his normal operating system thus it can be used by others.



This story has left me a little sour in many ways. I don't like the outlier boost because it just has everyone getting super strength. That's not how that works. Everyone should have a different ability but they all just became tailgates essentially. It shows Velocity got super speed BUT her name is velocity. She's not been totally fleshed out and one panel of her zooming by isn't enough explanation for me. And I don't count Rodimus going human torch an ability because he's already done that in Maximum Dinobots. Kind of figured Skids death would probably have triggered a spasm with a few of them too.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby ebonyleopard » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:29 pm

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So, that's what Ravage brought him in the mystery box so many issues ago. Yet another off panel image paid off.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:31 pm

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Ebonyleopard wrote:So, that's what Ravage brought him in the mystery box so many issues ago. Yet another off panel image paid off.

Pretty sure Megatron took that with him in issue 35 when he visited Trailcutter's corpse. Ravage brought him one of Brainstorm's Briefcases
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby ebonyleopard » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:37 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So Trailcutter gets some measure of revenge from the grave. I gotta hand it to Roberts, I did not see that coming. Intriguing, very intriguing indeed. Can't wait until the issue is released. Now I have to go back and read MTMTE from the point where Megatron joined them to make it make more sense.


Which makes zero sense because trailbreaker a force field are because he's a outlier. He's a mutant essentially. It's been stated you can't just replicate outlier tech but here megatron uses trailbreakers ability.

Which brings up a problem with the last issue. Outliers are Cybertronians who are forged. Brainstorm and Chromedome technically should not have had powers



Well no. Megatron has done a Ratchet. He's replaced his own hands with Trailbreakers, (Just like Transformers Prime), so technically Trailbreaker's mutant powers are still be used by Trailbreaker's body, just not being mentally activated by Trailbreaker's brain.

Megatron has official gone Red Skull v Charles Xavier.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby ebonyleopard » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:39 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Ebonyleopard wrote:So, that's what Ravage brought him in the mystery box so many issues ago. Yet another off panel image paid off.

Pretty sure Megatron took that with him in issue 35 when he visited Trailcutter's corpse. Ravage brought him one of Brainstorm's Briefcases



AH, yeah, you're right. Got my time line mixed up. But, that's the cool thing about these comics. It's like trying to follow clues of a mystery.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:01 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Ebonyleopard wrote:So, that's what Ravage brought him in the mystery box so many issues ago. Yet another off panel image paid off.

Pretty sure Megatron took that with him in issue 35 when he visited Trailcutter's corpse. Ravage brought him one of Brainstorm's Briefcases

Which I've been thinking about the last couple hours actually.
Unless it was already explained and I missed it, what the heck does Megsy want with a time case?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:20 pm

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Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Ebonyleopard wrote:So, that's what Ravage brought him in the mystery box so many issues ago. Yet another off panel image paid off.

Pretty sure Megatron took that with him in issue 35 when he visited Trailcutter's corpse. Ravage brought him one of Brainstorm's Briefcases

Which I've been thinking about the last couple hours actually.
Unless it was already explained and I missed it, what the heck does Megsy want with a time case?

We don't know what Megs wants with the time case. But ya know, I have a theory regarding that:

This new Autobot Megatron we have, is going to use the case to end up back in time and become Terminus.

Or maybe, he will use it to save Terminus, or at least find him and find out what happened to him. But the remaining time case seems to be a season 3 thing for now
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:54 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Ebonyleopard wrote:So, that's what Ravage brought him in the mystery box so many issues ago. Yet another off panel image paid off.

Pretty sure Megatron took that with him in issue 35 when he visited Trailcutter's corpse. Ravage brought him one of Brainstorm's Briefcases

Which I've been thinking about the last couple hours actually.
Unless it was already explained and I missed it, what the heck does Megsy want with a time case?

We don't know what Megs wants with the time case. But ya know, I have a theory regarding that:

This new Autobot Megatron we have, is going to use the case to end up back in time and become Terminus.

Or maybe, he will use it to save Terminus, or at least find him and find out what happened to him. But the remaining time case seems to be a season 3 thing for now


I don't think Megatron will become Terminus.

I don't think the case will come back into play until maybe the very end of MTMTE

I think the briefcase will come back someday but won't have time altering effects. It'll be like the last time where "this was always meant to happen" or it will get used to alter something that very recent like only travel back an hour or so.

Or it will be used to save Buckbeak BUT NOT SIRIUS! There are rules
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:08 pm

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Randomhero wrote:Or it will be used to save Buckbeak BUT NOT SIRIUS! There are rules

By Primus Man.... really?

But I can see that with the briefcase. I mean, until they get to the Lost Light, they can't really do anything with it unless someone else finds it or Megs has stored it in his body somehow
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:27 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Or it will be used to save Buckbeak BUT NOT SIRIUS! There are rules

By Primus Man.... really?

But I can see that with the briefcase. I mean, until they get to the Lost Light, they can't really do anything with it unless someone else finds it or Megs has stored it in his body somehow



It's hidden in his alt mode. We'll see it the day Megatron transforms...yeah we're never going to see it again...
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:52 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
MrBlack wrote:On another topic: What's in the box???

I'm thinking the geo-bomb Fort Max mentioned in 46. He said the counsel made a bomb from Killmaster's design that could destroy planets, and it is small "size of an eyeball" said Crankcase. Maybe they intend to use it to kill hundreds of cons, Megatron, and any other robot that so happens to be there. It all comes down as a win for the counsel.


Wait.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:He said the counsel made a bomb from Killmaster's design that could destroy planets, and it is small "size of an eyeball" said Crankcase. Maybe they intend to use it to kill hundreds of cons, Megatron, and any other robot that so happens to be there. It all comes down as a win for the counsel.


Hang on.

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #55 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:59 pm

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The Galactic council's warship is actually the alt mode for Unicron's head. Necroworld is the rest of his body and it's hollow since it lacks the evil head of the beast, and then Rung is the piece caught investigating with Nightbeat that forms the connection and Unicron is reborn thanks to organics, autobots, decepticons, and a poor little Rung in the wrong place at the wrong time!
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