The Energon Pub

I thought (and other too) that it is time for a thread like this. In fact this may need to get stickied. With the way that Furman is writing the IDWverse, and all the mysteries, obscure character introductions, and ideas that have changed from original, or been kept the same, let's talk about it here.

For example:

It would be nice to hear people's theories on what the dead universe is, and what impact it will have on the TF-universe (Galvatron gives us more clues)...

Or what was done to Nightbeat, and by whom, for what purpose?

Will Sunstreaker end up a headmaster, and will Hunter be the 'master part?

How will information in the Megatron Spotlight impact the current timeline? Do you think we will get any information that will help us unravel the mysteries in it?

So let's start firing away. You can answer any of my questions or go on a tangent of your own...

Let's go!!!!

How will information in the Megatron Spotlight impact the current timeline? Do you think we will get any information that will help us unravel the mysteries in it?

I'm not anticipating "too" much info that will be super-revelant to the current ongoing. I'm thinking it'll just be good for background of the IDWverse. If anything though, I'm anticipating a bunch of characterization of Starscream and Soundwave...those are two important characters who haven't seen much panel time, but I think their relationships and personalities will really be shown.


Will Sunstreaker end up a headmaster, and will Hunter be the 'master part?

All signs point to yes and I'm sure how I feel about that. It would be weird if Sunstreaker was a headmaster. It seems early in the game for "headmasters," but if that term refers more to headless drones (a la Magnus Spotlight) or humans as the heads/minds of drones, that would be cool. I think it'll be a while before we see Hardhead or Nightbeat become headmasters.


It would be nice to hear people's theories on what the dead universe is, and what impact it will have on the TF-universe (Galvatron gives us more clues)

Galvatron Spotlight was very interesting. The location of the "anomoly" was the Benzuli Expanse when Ark-1 was launched and it's still there "now." Curious as to why it's expanding, how long it's been expanding and what that means for this universe. Not sure if dead universe is another dimension, another reality or just something else. If Galvatron and the rest of the Ark-1 can't be killed (cuz they're already dead), that presents serious problems.

Based upon dialogue in the Galvatron spotlight, we know that a Prime was lost in the dead universe. Escalation #6 said that the place where Prime went in infraspace was dead. Prime Spotlight confirms that the entity was a Prime. So I think at this point, we can almost "confirm" that the entity Optimus encountered was a Prime and was indeed the Prime on the Ark-1. This has been a theory floating around, but like I said, I think we can almost confirm that.


Or what was done to Nightbeat, and by whom, for what purpose?

I'm not sure other then the general theory that he will become Galvatron's "mole" in the future. My gut tells me that he will be one of the major cliffhangers of Devestation (a la His actions will be revealed to the bots at an inopportune time at the end of Devestation)

Wow, thanks for the comments you've got me thinking.

And of course, now we have to wait until the Prime Spotlight to see what Prime knows of this dead universe. I guess I did not realize that the Prime that Optimus touched while in the matrix was that Prime (from Ark-1), and that the Prime was in the dead universe.

So if Galvatron can't be killed what is his motivation, and why does he want Thunderwing (keep in mind I've only read Galvatron once)?


I do believe I read somewhere that we were going to be getting some kind of headmaster stuff in Devastation, but as yousaid, its probably not a conversion for Nightbeat or Hardhead yet...

Do you think the martrix of leadership is a portal to the dead universe? In the past, it has always been a link to autobot leaders of the past who are deceased, maybe it is a link to the original Ark-1 folks, or to the original pre-war TFs in general...

After reading this... I should really dip into the IDW universe...

Supreme Convoy wrote::BOT: After reading this... I should really dip into the IDW universe...

Well of course you should. Well written, good art, and it's about TFs! Very thought provoking, and the non-linearness of it all is making us turn flips. They have us wrapped around their little finger, dangling, waiting for the next tidbit...

Something else just occurred to me regarding the IDWverse and the Dead Universe. Someone on another board was under the assumption that it has already been revealed that the portal was the doorway to the Dead Universe (probably because it's been a theory widely held on the internet for sometime but hadn't been confirmed until the Galvatron Spotlight). So I wanted to investigate.

Anyways, I looked at the Nightbeat Spotlight again, and when Nightbeat is being operated on, the shadowy figure says, "Agreed. The expansion will soon begin." That meant nothing to me at the time, but at the beginning of the Galvatron Spotlight, the aliens say "At its current rate of expansion, the anomaly will consume this system within...". I don't really have any revelations about it, but I wanted to point it out to others because it didn't mean anything to me until now. What we can say though is that whatever this expansion is, it's just started and seems to be a major part of their plans.

Nice find.

It may seem common knowledge, but I think we have found out also that the matrix is another key to the dead universe, in fact it may be the creator of the dead-verse...

But I need to go back and read again...

For some reson I think that the PDA Varity stole is Soundwave.
Don't ask me wye, I just had this feeling after speking with Simon, and just as a side note I have to wayt for the Spotlight Soundwave till end of august.

Maybe Nightbeat is the Galvatron trigger?

Dead Metal wrote:For some reson I think that the PDA Varity stole is Soundwave.
Don't ask me wye, I just had this feeling after speking with Simon, and just as a side note I have to wayt for the Spotlight Soundwave till end of august.

Maybe Nightbeat is the Galvatron trigger?

hmmm... I hadn't thought about the SW as the PDA thing, but if he is, he certainly is biding his time, and allowing a lot of stuff to be done with him...

You may have a different opinion after you read the spotlight on Soundwave though...

What do you mean by Nightbeat being the Galvatron trigger? Can you elucidate?

He may be used to activate Galvatron ore to led himto his victims!
Like opening the darc dimention, seting him free so he can follow his masters plan!

Dead Metal wrote:He may be used to activate Galvatron ore to led himto his victims!
Like opening the darc dimention, seting him free so he can follow his masters plan!

Gotcha...thanks for clarifying.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:He may be used to activate Galvatron ore to led himto his victims!
Like opening the darc dimention, seting him free so he can follow his masters plan!

Gotcha...thanks for clarifying.

No problem, you know I stole that from the new Sonic Game, man that Game sucked.
Man can't wayt for those comics, just 5 more weeks!

It would be nice to hear people's theories on what the dead universe is, and what impact it will have on the TF-universe (Galvatron gives us more clues)...

I think the Dead Universe is an intrinsically opposite universe where the laws of nature are somehow opposite.

I think it will cause the Autobots and Decepticons to temporarily unite again. We have seen in Stormbringer and even the UltraMagnus Spotlight the 2 factions have either joined against a greater danger or have established Rules of War.

Speaking of UltraMagnus his Spotlight hints that the Decpticons have their own society and empire. The Autobot-Decepticon War may be between two empires without a homeworld rather than 2 factions fighting over Cybertron. This would explain why in Escalation Prime and Megatron fight for the first in a long time.

Or what was done to Nightbeat, and by whom, for what purpose

Obviously, Nightbeat was implanted with a device. It may be for information gathering and maybe some mind control. The Dead Universe knew about Nightbeat's investigation. How? They knew enough about him that they use his nature to lure him to Gorlam Prime. How? They knew about Thunderwing? How? There may be more Transfromers with implants.

Will Sunstreaker end up a headmaster, and will Hunter be the 'master part?

My first instinct is no. If Scorponok is indeed behind the Machination then why he equip an Autobot with the technology he has created? Sunstreaker might be getting used for parts they cannot replicate on Earth. There may be a situation where Sunstreaker can only be saved by making Hunter his head master.


How will information in the Megatron Spotlight impact the current timeline? Do you think we will get any information that will help us unravel the mysteries in it?

Probably not directly. It will likely shed light on 'Peace through Tyranny' and how the War came to be. I find it interesting that the Autobots take the symbol of the old Cybertron goverment and then we in other issues an organization structure similar to what we see in Megatron Origin 1. Things apparently dont start out as black and white as we might think.

I love the layers and theorizing this allows us to do...

I wait impatiently for the next issue of Origin, and Spotlight Optimus Prime.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Will Sunstreaker end up a headmaster, and will Hunter be the 'master part?

Unfortunately, yes, I think that's what will happen. It seems like a terrible choice to me. Sunstreaker has a tremendous amount of story potential that I think will be ruined by this.

How will information in the Megatron Spotlight impact the current timeline? Do you think we will get any information that will help us unravel the mysteries in it?

I am doubting it, except maybe to show how Cybertron was ruined to begin with.


Now, my take on things:

I really like the work they are doing, but it's time for some answers. As much as I enjoy the reads, things are just grinding out about 10 different plot directions at once (an growing), let's close some up soon.

Without any nod to my screen name, Punch/Counterpunch seems to be a character that absolutely deserves a spotlight book, or to be involved in all this mystery that's going about.

Prowl has been a jerk the whole time. That's fine, he can be the TF Cyclops, but let's see him kick some ass too. He's supposed to be Prime's #2, that should equate to 'bad-ass'.

Verity would make the coolest Targetmaster partner ever.

Ever. (and she's adorable)

Without any nod to my screen name, Counterpunch/Punch seems to be a character that absolutely deserves a spotlight book, or to be involved in all this mystery that's going about.

Devestation #1 needs to, no must open with a bang. I'm tired of all this rev-ing up to Issue 6 stuff.

That is all.

Counterpunch wrote:
Without any nod to my screen name, Punch/Counterpunch seems to be a character that absolutely deserves a spotlight book, or to be involved in all this mystery that's going about.

Prowl has been a jerk the whole time. That's fine, he can be the TF Cyclops, but let's see him kick some ass too. He's supposed to be Prime's #2, that should equate to 'bad-ass'.

That is all.

#1) With Doubledealer that kind of character seems 'used up', but he could be the Autobot counter to Doubledealer.

#2) Hell frickin' yeah...make him kick @$$!

#3) Hope not...

1. We've seen that Laserbeak and Ravage are still around, and whoever has them is about to make their move. Does that mean that they also found Soundwave in that pawn shop, or was he seperated from them?

2. Where are Shockwave and the Dinobots going to fit in? They've been discovered...but by who...?

3. When Darkwing and Dreadwind pulled out of Nebulous during Stormbringer, they took Thrust with them. Are they going to make their way to earth or will they appear in someone else's Spotlight book?

4. Could Wheelie be trapped somewhere close to the edge of the Dead Universe, leading into his own Spotlight story?

Hairball178 wrote:1. We've seen that Laserbeak and Ravage are still around, and whoever has them is about to make their move. Does that mean that they also found Soundwave in that pawn shop, or was he seperated from them?

2. Where are Shockwave and the Dinobots going to fit in? They've been discovered...but by who...?

3. When Darkwing and Dreadwind pulled out of Nebulous during Stormbringer, they took Thrust with them. Are they going to make their way to earth or will they appear in someone else's Spotlight book?

4. Could Wheelie be trapped somewhere close to the edge of the Dead Universe, leading into his own Spotlight story?

4: Haha! It would be great if Wheelie was trying to report about the Dead Universe when he was being ignored!

3: I thought that they would wind up intertwined with Scorponok and Magnus, but since Scorpy is more than likely on Earth, and we have seen, nor heard nothign of them, perhaps they are just floating about somewhere for the time being.

2: Shockwave and the Dinobots are going to bring some heavy action to Devastation, Id go as far as to say, they are the reason the third arc is called Devastation. Shockwave has proven himself to be a highly capable warrior, as well as a genius, that could potentially see him usurp Leadership from Megaton. I can see Shockwave overcoming the shortfalls of Ore 13, and using it to his complete advantage. The Dinobots will cause much havoc in trying to combat Shockwave too.

1: I'm not sure on Soundwave, If Skywatch has the Casette's I'd bet that they have Soundwave, perhaps he is still damaged (that's why he couldn't transform out of tape deck mode isn't it?), or perhaps they are afraid they would not be able to control him, like it seems they have done with ravage and Laserbeak.

Hairball178 wrote:1. We've seen that Laserbeak and Ravage are still around, and whoever has them is about to make their move. Does that mean that they also found Soundwave in that pawn shop, or was he seperated from them?

I think I just answered my own question here. I reread the Soundwave spotlight about half an hour ago, and Laserbeak & Ravage were dug up after Mt. St. Helens "erupted", and Soundwave was last seen in the pawn shop. So unless things have changed SW is still there, waiting for his pet parrot and kitty to come look for him.

I've been thinking about the Prime in the dead universe, could he be the next Nemesis Prime?

And Galvatron might still play a pivotal role in overcoming the dead universe, he doesn't seem all too happy about his current situation.

But only time will tell

And now thanks to the five page preview of the Prime Spotlight, we know that Wheelie (glimpse), and Omega Supreme (big role) get introduced into the IDW universe!

Omega seems to be an older bot that Prime trusts and can share with. I would imagine he does not have his G1 show speech impediment. Otherwise Prime could just talk to any 'ol computer and feel better.

http://comicnewsi.com/article.php?catid=231&itemid=10065

I will be quite interested to see what feedback Omega gives him, and what we can find out about the dead universe, the matrix, and Primes...

And who is the cool winged Prime behind Sentinel? He looks cool!!!

The closest of the two Primes in the back in silhouette, are his wing like protrusions giving anyone else a Rodimus Prime wing/vane feel? If we can have Galvatron as a seperate character to Megs there's nothing stopping Rodimus being realised as a historic character seperate to Hot Rod.

What we know so far.

Cybertron ran out of Energon/ Shockwave seeded planets with new energon. Shockwave's spotlight

The Decepticon's have a spy, Double Dealer: Hot Rod's Spotlight

Scorponok is studying head master tech: Magnus

Kup is a goner: Kup

Nightbeat has been altered into an unknown spy: Nightbeat

Six SHot had a run in with an unknown group, possibly from the Dead Universe or foot soldiers from another planet. Six SHot

Soundwave tried and failed to stop Bludgeon who was placed in charge in locating Shockwave's research, which lead to the reconstruction of Thunderwing. Soundwave Spotlight

The Machination is interested in the "Alien life forms" and have taken Sunstreaker and Hunter.

Megatron planed on starting a war in order to wipe out the humans, and thus has called in Six Shot for backup.

Nebulos could be gone, thanks to Bludgeon, Dread wing, Dark Wing and Thrust escaped from a viewing station.

I'm Pretty sure I missed heaps, so if anyone wants to fill in the gaps, go right ahead.

Furman himself said Kup will be back, I believe at the Botcon panel, but could have been an interview somewhere.

I want to know who is controlling Galvatron. If not Unicron, then who? Nemesis Prime, maybe?

Devastation will likely be called that because of Sixshot; Furman already pretty much guaranteed that, but I could see the Dinobots and Shockwave contributing, even though he hasn't so much as hinted toward them yet. I could certainly see the five Dinobots taking out Sixshot at the end. Also, Shockwave burned off their fake dinosaur skin leaving their robotic shells exposed, so next time we see them, think we'll see them in their robotic dinosaur form?

Blozor wrote:
Devastation will likely be called that because of Sixshot; Furman already pretty much guaranteed that, but I could see the Dinobots and Shockwave contributing, even though he hasn't so much as hinted toward them yet. I could certainly see the five Dinobots taking out Sixshot at the end. Also, Shockwave burned off their fake dinosaur skin leaving their robotic shells exposed, so next time we see them, think we'll see them in their robotic dinosaur form?

Correct about Sixshot and devastation!

At the end of one of the series, Escalation maybe, we saw that there was a group digging up Shockwave and the dinos (big clue), and that the Machination had caught Ravage and Lazerbeak.

I would imagine the dinos will no longer need the fleshy skins, as no other TFs do. It wasn't fake dinosaur skin, it was real flesh!