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[ZeroWolf]

Was that a hasbro or takara tomy series though?

[primalxconvoy]

[ThunderThruster]

From memory, one of my favourites sounded something like:

By what creeps, what crawls, by what does not, Let all that grows recede and rot

But do you know it's counter incantation (I sure as hell can never remember it)

But aside from Darkstorms, I can always remember Cindarr's, Cryotek's and Lexor's.

All the incantations can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visionari ... ical_Light

I liked Witterquick's especially with how fast he could say it. Cryotek and Cindarr's were also pretty neat.

That takes out the memory element, but yeah Witterquick's was cool, very evocative of it's power.

[o.supreme]

ok...so TF vs. Visionaries #1 sold out and needed a 2nd printing, but evidently now...the last couple issues sales are way down? Was this just a fan reaction to so many people that wanted a new Visionaries comic, and then when they saw what it was, quickly abandoned it?

[Big Grim]

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Glorious!

[AllNewSuperRobot]

From memory, one of my favourites sounded something like:

By what creeps, what crawls, by what does not, Let all that grows recede and rot

But do you know it's counter incantation (I sure as hell can never remember it)

That takes out the memory element, but yeah Witterquick's was cool, very evocative of it's power.

I'd forgotten about the counter ones That's definitely not in the old memory banks. The only other one I recall offhand, because it was short, was Leoric's:
Whispered secrets of a shattered age,. I summon you, renew this sage.

[o.supreme]

The only one who had a counter was Darkstorm, who could reverse his spell of decay/aging which he once did to Leoric. It was only used once though IIRC in the animated series. Also its interesting to note some of the incantations only were stated in the comics, and some not at all (I guess they were in the toys or some other fiction??)

[AllNewSuperRobot]

The only one who had a counter was Darkstorm, who could reverse his spell of decay/aging which he once did to Leoric

That's right In retrospect he probably had one of the most powerful offensive Staffs in the series. If not the most powerful.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

On the other hand, Sassy Ironhide

This pose reminded me of something I'd seen somewhere before. I found it again through random chance today:



Megatron, can work it too

[Burn]

ok...so TF vs. Visionaries #1 sold out and needed a 2nd printing, but evidently now...the last couple issues sales are way down? Was this just a fan reaction to so many people that wanted a new Visionaries comic, and then when they saw what it was, quickly abandoned it?

Most of us put the 2nd printing down to them already doing a small print run in the first place then with subsequent issues they balanced it out.

Of course what you're saying is also possible, people got excited, read the first issue and then the other way screaming.

[ThunderThruster]

The only one who had a counter was Darkstorm, who could reverse his spell of decay/aging which he once did to Leoric. It was only used once though IIRC in the animated series. Also its interesting to note some of the incantations only were stated in the comics, and some not at all (I guess they were in the toys or some other fiction??)

Only Verulina's and Galadria's weren't in the cartoon but in the comic, as they had power shields, not staffs.

[Daniel Adkins]

I know everyone likes to lament that this series "replaced" TAAO, but can we also lament how it also "replaced" Revolutionaries? I miss that book.

[ScottyP]

I know everyone likes to lament that this series "replaced" TAAO, but can we also lament how it also "replaced" Revolutionaries? I miss that book.

I'll get on board with that. That was a hidden gem during 2017 and the lack of effort by the fandom to even give it a real chance is a travesty. The latter half is especially great, and I think 5-7 hold up as borderline essential reading within the IDWverse even if someone only follows TFs.

[Big Grim]

I'll get on board with that. That was a hidden gem during 2017 and the lack of effort by the fandom to even give it a real chance is a travesty. The latter half is especially great, and I think 5-7 hold up as borderline essential reading within the IDWverse even if someone only follows TFs.

Agreed. It's thanks to you guys and the reviews that I gave it a shot. Was good fun.

[Va'al]

Somewhat surprisingly close to release, as the book is due out this coming Wednesday, we have a three page iTunes preview of the fourth chapter in the mini-series featuring two of the Hasbro universe franchises currently ongoing from IDW Publishing: Transformers vs Visionaries.

The preview can be seen mirrored below, and you'll be able to catch a Seibertron.com short review of the issue once it's been released, so tune back in and join the discussion in the Energon Pub!

Transformers vs. Visionaries #4
Magdalene Visaggio (Author) • Fico Ossio (Artist, Cover Artist) • David Garcia Cruz (Colorist) • Luca Pizzari (Cover Artist)

Leoric and Ironhide only have hours left to save Cybertron from destruction, while Virulina tries to harness the life energy of Leoric’s captured friends to accelerate the end. Now Leoric must somehow detonate the counter-wave bomb and rescue his people. And the clock is ticking.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

That first page has some of the worst composition I've ever seen. Aside from the hands, what are we looking at? Where are the sight lines??

[D-Maximal_Primal]

QUICKSWITCH

Finally have a good reason to own his toy fiction wise, not that he has a bad toy either. Nice to see him brought in. And Wheeljack and Breakdown are good too.

A small plus, but finally it's there.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

QUICKSWITCH

Finally have a good reason to own his toy fiction wise, not that he has a bad toy either. Nice to see him brought in. And Wheeljack and Breakdown are good too.

A small plus, but finally it's there.

Has he not been in IDWverse til now?

Sixshot was introduced way back in 2006, after all.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

QUICKSWITCH

Finally have a good reason to own his toy fiction wise, not that he has a bad toy either. Nice to see him brought in. And Wheeljack and Breakdown are good too.

A small plus, but finally it's there.

Has he not been in IDWverse til now?

Sixshot was introduced way back in 2006, after all.

He showed up once in a flashback in OP issue 1, but this is the first time he is on screen and speaking

[AllNewSuperRobot]

The two main Six Changers appearing over a decade apart?

The jumbled nature of IDWverse pooling characters from every continuity has always confused me.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

The two main Six Changers appearing over a decade apart?

The jumbled nature of IDWverse pooling characters from every continuity has always confused me.

Every character that has ever existed is fair game, no matter the source material. And Sixshot is really the only well known (I use the term loosely even in his case) six-changer, so it's not terribly surprising for me to see Quickswitch appear this late in the game. And it is fun that he gets to appear at all, it helps get the obscure characters some actual screen time

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

But technically speaking, Sixshot was a major threat because of the ununtrium skeleton he was given to make him a phase sixer. He was a six changer before probably, but the phase sixer upgrade only made him stronger.

And in this universe, Sixshot and Quickswitch are not shown to be related at all. Heck, we haven't even confirmation that Quickswitch is a 6-changer yet, and even so, other multi-changers haven't been shown to be uber powerful most of the time, look at Broadside, Sandstorm, and Springer for example. Even Blitzwing and Astrotrain didn't really play a bigger role due to their multiple modes

[AllNewSuperRobot]

True. The only two shown to be Uber-Powerful in IDWverse are Prime and Megatron. A joke in itself at times.

[Burn]

Better hope he doesn't show up for a few panels then becomes the latest victim in IDW's efforts to put over Visionaries.