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Gauntlet101010 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Rated X wrote:megatronus wrote:mooncake623 wrote:megatronus wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..
If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673
Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.
No Sharkticons for you?
Whatever will you do??
I could understand alicons being meh to some people, but I would think sharkticons would be a must have for any G1 fan ?
I wanted to like them all I really did. But selling the sharkys and sending the alicons back... Do I really want to take another shot with the igears one? Lost money on both transactions lol not a huge deal but time was spent selling it and sending them back.. Haha
Wow, harsh. I liked both UT's and iGear's Sharkticons. Although iGear's Sharkticons are better made overall and look better in bot mode IMO. Still, I found UT's Sharkies to be pretty fun.
mooncake623 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Rated X wrote:megatronus wrote:mooncake623 wrote:megatronus wrote:mooncake623 wrote:Didn't like the sharkies, never got a chance to get the judge or any of those earlier quints. oh well..
If you didn't like UT's Sharkies, iGear's Sharkticon 3-pack is on clearance for $80 at BBTS:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/list.aspx?list=16673
Yea I know I saw this and was going to get them to display with the alicons. But since I sent them back I don't think I'll go for these.
No Sharkticons for you?
Whatever will you do??
I could understand alicons being meh to some people, but I would think sharkticons would be a must have for any G1 fan ?
I wanted to like them all I really did. But selling the sharkys and sending the alicons back... Do I really want to take another shot with the igears one? Lost money on both transactions lol not a huge deal but time was spent selling it and sending them back.. Haha
Wow, harsh. I liked both UT's and iGear's Sharkticons. Although iGear's Sharkticons are better made overall and look better in bot mode IMO. Still, I found UT's Sharkies to be pretty fun.
It's not really harsh is it? I understand what they are.. and wanted to like them.. I even brought them but in hand they're not what I wanted.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:mooncake623 wrote:It's not really harsh is it? I understand what they are.. and wanted to like them.. I even brought them but in hand they're not what I wanted.
Hey, you're totally entitled to your opinions and to make your own standards.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'll echo megatronus' statements about iGear's Sharkticons. I have a few of iGear's products, including their minibots and their Sharkticons are their best product. The shark mode is inferior to UT's, but that's it. If I had to choose only one, it'd be iGear's.
That said I'm pretty happy every time I see my full Quintesson court with iGear's, UT's, and IT's works all together. It's really ironic that the creators of the Transformers are all done by 3rd parties. I only wish IT did the two faced Quint from Dweller in the Depths. I like how the sharks look a little different too. I think of it ike those parts of the cartoon where the same guy is drawn just slightly differently because the artist couldn't stay on model (in a good way). It just adds variety.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'll echo megatronus' statements about iGear's Sharkticons. I have a few of iGear's products, including their minibots and their Sharkticons are their best product. The shark mode is inferior to UT's, but that's it. If I had to choose only one, it'd be iGear's.
That said I'm pretty happy every time I see my full Quintesson court with iGear's, UT's, and IT's works all together. It's really ironic that the creators of the Transformers are all done by 3rd parties. I only wish IT did the two faced Quint from Dweller in the Depths. I like how the sharks look a little different too. I think of it ike those parts of the cartoon where the same guy is drawn just slightly differently because the artist couldn't stay on model (in a good way). It just adds variety.
Whatever happened to HasTak's 30th Legends scale Gnaw toy. Was any pics ever released for either toy mode? any info on release dates? Was it ever confirmed by HasTak such a toy was getting made for Generations?
Gauntlet101010 wrote:As for the Tetrajets, well ... there's some potential for them to have been a contender, but they didn't follow through. Sadly I can say that for most of IT's stuff. Like you I absolutely love their ideas. A full Quintesson court, a transformable Arcee, Tetrajets, and non posable figures of guys from the G1 toon are all things I love beight brought to life. But IT dropped the ball on quality too many times.
A fun fact: Vastenka of Renderform made all the 3D models for Impossible toys ... 10 years ago! But they all seemed to have been smoothes out from his original renders. Has IT released Arcee or the Alicon right when the 3rd party scene was just getting started we may have seen them in a very different light.
Venksta wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:As for the Tetrajets, well ... there's some potential for them to have been a contender, but they didn't follow through. Sadly I can say that for most of IT's stuff. Like you I absolutely love their ideas. A full Quintesson court, a transformable Arcee, Tetrajets, and non posable figures of guys from the G1 toon are all things I love beight brought to life. But IT dropped the ball on quality too many times.
A fun fact: Vastenka of Renderform made all the 3D models for Impossible toys ... 10 years ago! But they all seemed to have been smoothes out from his original renders. Has IT released Arcee or the Alicon right when the 3rd party scene was just getting started we may have seen them in a very different light.
That Vastenka guy is a crappy designer. No wonder he only worked for Impossible Toys.![]()
Actually, the Alicon and Tetrajets were designed in 2009. About the time Defender was first announced. So it was actually one of the first 3rd party toys being designed, as I believe the only other figures out then were TFC's Roller, and MMC's Knight Morpher Commander, within a year from then. Tetrajets were my first ever design. It was completed around October 2009. Then they sat on the design for a long time. Sadly, they wanted it done soon as possible. So if they knew how long it would of been sat on, the designing part, that I could do, could of been improved. They also didn't follow many suggestions I had, like the transparent cockpits. And my request to redesign the head, when they showed me the testshot at TFCon 2012, about a year before it was released. The Alicon was suppose to be close to the cartoon design as possible, so its meant for g1 displays. When I originally started both projects, Impossible requested they be "G1", as their fans of G1 toys, and intended their products to go with that collection. There were other restrictions as well put by them, in the designing phase, like no ball joints. Alicon's design did have more detailing, but it got lost in the translation. Strangely, this only occured with them so far, and no other 3rd party company's I have designed for. What ever factory they used, didn't seem to do a good job with the CAD designs.
Venksta wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:As for the Tetrajets, well ... there's some potential for them to have been a contender, but they didn't follow through. Sadly I can say that for most of IT's stuff. Like you I absolutely love their ideas. A full Quintesson court, a transformable Arcee, Tetrajets, and non posable figures of guys from the G1 toon are all things I love beight brought to life. But IT dropped the ball on quality too many times.
A fun fact: Vastenka of Renderform made all the 3D models for Impossible toys ... 10 years ago! But they all seemed to have been smoothes out from his original renders. Has IT released Arcee or the Alicon right when the 3rd party scene was just getting started we may have seen them in a very different light.
That Vastenka guy is a crappy designer. No wonder he only worked for Impossible Toys.![]()
Actually, the Alicon and Tetrajets were designed in 2009. About the time Defender was first announced. So it was actually one of the first 3rd party toys being designed, as I believe the only other figures out then were TFC's Roller, and MMC's Knight Morpher Commander, within a year from then. Tetrajets were my first ever design. It was completed around October 2009. Then they sat on the design for a long time. Sadly, they wanted it done soon as possible. So if they knew how long it would of been sat on, the designing part, that I could do, could of been improved. They also didn't follow many suggestions I had, like the transparent cockpits. And my request to redesign the head, when they showed me the testshot at TFCon 2012, about a year before it was released. The Alicon was suppose to be close to the cartoon design as possible, so its meant for g1 displays. When I originally started both projects, Impossible requested they be "G1", as their fans of G1 toys, and intended their products to go with that collection. There were other restrictions as well put by them, in the designing phase, like no ball joints. Alicon's design did have more detailing, but it got lost in the translation. Strangely, this only occured with them so far, and no other 3rd party company's I have designed for. What ever factory they used, didn't seem to do a good job with the CAD designs.
Rated X wrote:
I bought all those IT figures and I love them all. And I display them with classics. I just don’t feel articulated figures belong on a shelf with a bunch of G1 brick figures. Honestly I wish you would spend less time designing melee weapons and start designing figures. I’m confident you could design some top notch stuff that would fit in well with classics but maintain that beloved cartoon accurate aesthetic. And I would buy them. I also would love to see you do more heads for Botcon figures such as G2 Spark/Pyro, Machine Wars Starscream, and G1 Firestar for the Flareup figure. I would be all over those.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Sorry for misspelling your name, dude. I suppose I should have done a quick google search to verify my spelling.![]()
They should definitely have taken more care with the quality of their products, like keeping the details and fixing the tetrajet's head. They should have seen that was a problem, even without your input. I guess they had their (probably financial) reasons, but it really hurt them in the end.
Even with the loss of details, I think the alicon is their best product. It'd have been interesting to see the initial renders on all of them. Do the renders on the boxes come close, or were those messed around with?
Edit:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... 499026.jpg
found a pic of the render for the alicon.
Venksta wrote:As for full figures, I have to keep quiet on certain projects...
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Venksta wrote: The boxes use the final CAD designs that were given to Impossible Toys. I actually designed all the boxes myself. Fun fact: Tetra Seekers were not going to have any names. I actually encouraged that they allow me to name each one, and then I brought a friend on board to help write the bios and story for each one. All IT wanted was just a plain G1 style box with the product name and some art on the back. Even with their Arcee, it was just going to be called TRNS-01. I heavily suggested they called it Valkyrie to give it a proper name.
Here is something I never shared. After Valkyrie was released, and the uproar by customers, IT wanted to redo the figure. So they tried to get me to make a better version. I did start, but then went onto projects for other 3rd party groups. Heres what I had going for the car mode, based on the cartoon design.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Please, Since you know some of these 3rd party companies. I was wondering if you can answer this question of mine.
Do you know what's going on with a 3rd party TF company called, BTS. Did BTS close down or are they still open for business. Asking, Because I haven't seen a newer BTS project announced in over a year. The last project BTS announced was, BTS-06 Nova Lord.
Is BTS still releasing BTS-06 Nova Lord or is the toy cancelled. Wondering if BTS is being quiet on BTS-06 Nova Lord because their working hard trying to create the toy for mass release.
If BTS is closed down. Does any other 3rd party company have plans to buy the CAD files for BTS-06 Nova lord and release this toy?
Venksta wrote:Rated X wrote:
I bought all those IT figures and I love them all. And I display them with classics. I just don’t feel articulated figures belong on a shelf with a bunch of G1 brick figures. Honestly I wish you would spend less time designing melee weapons and start designing figures. I’m confident you could design some top notch stuff that would fit in well with classics but maintain that beloved cartoon accurate aesthetic. And I would buy them. I also would love to see you do more heads for Botcon figures such as G2 Spark/Pyro, Machine Wars Starscream, and G1 Firestar for the Flareup figure. I would be all over those.
I'm sorry I can't cater towards you specifically. Melee weapons have been a big success. The last new designs premiering at Botcon, outsold the Death Czar kit, which was surprising, as that kit did very well itself. So all that tells me is people want those types of weapons, and I have a fun time designing and manufacturing them. I do have a list of head upgrades I want to do, but some stuff takes priority. Pyro and Firestar are on the list.
As for full figures, I have to keep quiet on certain projects...
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