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RAcast wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:The image itself is obvious. The point I was making is to the masses this is Ratbat/Senator RB okay fine. But to me (considering I don't follow the books) this could be someone entirely different so to me this ain't Ratbat. The same went for PRID Rumble, to most that was Rumble but not to me.
Gotcha, gotcha. It'd certainly make a good...say vehicle-mode Mindwipe, for example.
And of course he's not Rumble, he's blue.
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Bowspearer wrote:Ok seriously, what are Takara Tomy and Hasbro smoking on this one?
I get the homage and it's a great homage, but here's where I'm left wondering what the marketting depts of each were smoking.
Last I checked there was no Japanese release of the IDW comics, meaning that this is a figure that in terms of Japanese media and therefore the Japanese line, makes absolutely no sense.
Meanwhile, Hasbro is going all out with IDW releases and Senator Ratbat isn't getting a Hasbro release with the other IDW deluxes? What the hell????
Seibertron wrote:Bowspearer wrote:Ok seriously, what are Takara Tomy and Hasbro smoking on this one?
I get the homage and it's a great homage, but here's where I'm left wondering what the marketting depts of each were smoking.
Last I checked there was no Japanese release of the IDW comics, meaning that this is a figure that in terms of Japanese media and therefore the Japanese line, makes absolutely no sense.
Meanwhile, Hasbro is going all out with IDW releases and Senator Ratbat isn't getting a Hasbro release with the other IDW deluxes? What the hell????
Seems like this is a running trend. We got the Japanese exclusive character "Sky Shadow" (aka Black Shadow) whereas Japan did not, at least not yet.
craggy wrote:maybe they thought that fans who were aware enough of the international lines but not rich enough to get the original exclusives might appreciate being able to get some version of these region specific characters.
I'm pretty sure I could get some IDW comics if I was in Japan, one way or another.
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Bowspearer wrote:What I simply cannot get my head around is Hasbro doing all these IDW comic related figures this year and not releasing it, considering it's far more profit than their other stuff.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bowspearer wrote:What I simply cannot get my head around is Hasbro doing all these IDW comic related figures this year and not releasing it, considering it's far more profit than their other stuff.
Got any proof to back up that claim?
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Bowspearer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bowspearer wrote:What I simply cannot get my head around is Hasbro doing all these IDW comic related figures this year and not releasing it, considering it's far more profit than their other stuff.
Got any proof to back up that claim?
You mean besides the fact that it has yet to be announced as part of the Generations line, even though the entire line is IDW themed this year as evidenced by at the fery least, the Deluxes and Basics.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bowspearer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bowspearer wrote:What I simply cannot get my head around is Hasbro doing all these IDW comic related figures this year and not releasing it, considering it's far more profit than their other stuff.
Got any proof to back up that claim?
You mean besides the fact that it has yet to be announced as part of the Generations line, even though the entire line is IDW themed this year as evidenced by at the fery least, the Deluxes and Basics.
I was talking about the "profit".
Fanboy wrote:You need to see the figure, feel the figure , lick the figure , be the figure,
And only then can you love mp 01 the way I have.
Bowspearer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bowspearer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Bowspearer wrote:What I simply cannot get my head around is Hasbro doing all these IDW comic related figures this year and not releasing it, considering it's far more profit than their other stuff.
Got any proof to back up that claim?
You mean besides the fact that it has yet to be announced as part of the Generations line, even though the entire line is IDW themed this year as evidenced by at the fery least, the Deluxes and Basics.
I was talking about the "profit".
I thought that would have been obvious. A head sculpt is going to cost much less than an entire new mould so the production costs for Hasbro on this are going to be far less than what they would be on an original mould.
xyl360 wrote:I think this is simply a matter of Takara relying on international collectors/sales somewhat, in addition to whatever the hardcore TF collector community is like in Japan, much like with the MP line and several other releases they've been doing lately. This piece (and the entire TG line in general in my opinion, along with the MPs) are geared just as much towards international collectors/sales as they are towards local sales. They have far less competition outside of their own area (with the exception of Hasbro of course), so doing exclusives like this allows them to recoup some of their lackluster profits when going head to head with the likes of Bandai in Japan methinks, though I could be completely off (this is just theory, which is all we're talking here anyway after all).
It's the same reason I think Takara goes the extra mile with the paint apps and such. I think they're counting on collectors like me who aren't willing to settle for the cheaper, less accurate/less awesome Hasbro versions. The constant sellouts of so many of their figures in the online shops seems to back this theory up too.
Seibertron wrote:xyl360 wrote:I think this is simply a matter of Takara relying on international collectors/sales somewhat, in addition to whatever the hardcore TF collector community is like in Japan, much like with the MP line and several other releases they've been doing lately. This piece (and the entire TG line in general in my opinion, along with the MPs) are geared just as much towards international collectors/sales as they are towards local sales. They have far less competition outside of their own area (with the exception of Hasbro of course), so doing exclusives like this allows them to recoup some of their lackluster profits when going head to head with the likes of Bandai in Japan methinks, though I could be completely off (this is just theory, which is all we're talking here anyway after all).
It's the same reason I think Takara goes the extra mile with the paint apps and such. I think they're counting on collectors like me who aren't willing to settle for the cheaper, less accurate/less awesome Hasbro versions. The constant sellouts of so many of their figures in the online shops seems to back this theory up too.
I think this is a good theory. International sales have to be a big factor ... especially with different paint jobs or colors on the same toy in different markets (i.e. Masterpiece Starscream).
Stormrider wrote:Seibertron wrote:xyl360 wrote:I think this is simply a matter of Takara relying on international collectors/sales somewhat, in addition to whatever the hardcore TF collector community is like in Japan, much like with the MP line and several other releases they've been doing lately. This piece (and the entire TG line in general in my opinion, along with the MPs) are geared just as much towards international collectors/sales as they are towards local sales. They have far less competition outside of their own area (with the exception of Hasbro of course), so doing exclusives like this allows them to recoup some of their lackluster profits when going head to head with the likes of Bandai in Japan methinks, though I could be completely off (this is just theory, which is all we're talking here anyway after all).
It's the same reason I think Takara goes the extra mile with the paint apps and such. I think they're counting on collectors like me who aren't willing to settle for the cheaper, less accurate/less awesome Hasbro versions. The constant sellouts of so many of their figures in the online shops seems to back this theory up too.
I think this is a good theory. International sales have to be a big factor ... especially with different paint jobs or colors on the same toy in different markets (i.e. Masterpiece Starscream).
It's a good point. Wasn't there an article a week ago explaining Takara's international market makes up 60 - 70% of their sales (across their toyline)? Inversely, would senator Ratbat be a shelf warmer if Hasbro produced it? I don't see it being a big character draw for children.
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
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