Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Stormrider wrote:These are some of the most clever engineering yet for the MP line. Love seeing how Frenzy can get a decibel decimating backpack, and the the piledrivers and Frenzy/Rumble accessories store in Soundwave.
MP Soundwave and his minions are going to be tough contenders to knock out of the top Transformer for 2013.
Sabrblade wrote:Plus, TakaraTomy likely begins with the Hasbro color schemes as a base, expanding upon and enhancing them to make their own color schemes. Using said existing color schemes to make their own is likely more of a money-saver than for them to create their own super extensive decos from the ground up, as such cases seem to be rarer cases than the more common occurences of the Takara decos just looking like enhanced version of the Hasbro decos.
Mindmaster wrote:I wish Frenzy (Rumble!) came with Ravage instead, I'd much rather have those two over Rumble (Frenzy!) and Buzzsaw.
This page explains it best - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/FIRRIBDinobotSix wrote:Mindmaster wrote:I wish Frenzy (Rumble!) came with Ravage instead, I'd much rather have those two over Rumble (Frenzy!) and Buzzsaw.
Gotta agree 100% with this. Maybe if Hasbro releases these here in the US they'll put the blue one with Ravage.
Until this mp, I wasn't familiar with the fact that the US/Japanese casetticon warrior characters were reversed.
Could someone familiar with the Japanese version of th G1 cartoon explain this to me...if "Frenzy" is the blue casetticon in the Japanese version, does his Japanese name actually remain the same, or differ to something that means "quake" or "rumbling" since clearly the blue casetticon is the one with the pille drivers causing the ground to "rumble" or shake...which the name "frenzy" would have no relation to.
Kinda confusing. Or was there an edit to the animation itself reversing their colors for some reason?
I imagine that most every US collector would want BLUE rumble more than RED rumble/frenzy, as the blue rumble is the most featured and memorable of the two in the G1 anime. Nothing against red frenzy though! =)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Deruji wrote:Sabrblade wrote:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/TampographRated X wrote:Ive never heard of Tampographs and dont know what they are.
You can see the process explained, at 3:50 you can also see the mass production version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq24QaLArso
Very interesting. But if it's this easy, then that just opens the door for arguments on why Hasbro versions have SOME of the paint apps, but not ALL of the paint apps Takara versions have. I hate that American market vs. Japanese Market argument Hasbro always throws up in convention pannels. Theyre basically saying American kids are savages who destroy their toys and dont deserve the extra 50 cents worth of Tampo ink. Or are they saying Japanese kids dont buy toy robots, only Japanese adult collectors ? Either way, something seems lazy and cheap on Hasbro's part.
It's indeed Japanese vs. American market. Unlike Hasbro, TakaraTomy has to compete rather aggressively with big companies like Bandai. And I mean BIG: Bandai has I think the lion's share in the robot toy figure department and then some, in both the kids' and adult collector's market.
DinobotSix wrote:Could someone familiar with the Japanese version of th G1 cartoon explain this to me...if "Frenzy" is the blue casetticon in the Japanese version, does his Japanese name actually remain the same, or differ to something that means "quake" or "rumbling" since clearly the blue casetticon is the one with the pille drivers causing the ground to "rumble" or shake...which the name "frenzy" would have no relation to.
Rated X wrote:What are some of these Bandai Japanese Transforming toys that compete with Takara ??? i dont mean Gundam or Power Rangers. But robots that actually Transform. Is there a reason why Takara doesnt offer cheap Hasbro style versions meant for kids, not collectors. At 35 bucks a pop, Takara isnt doing themselves any favors trying to sell kids toys. I really dont get this whole "Asian market" thing. Either theyre kids toys or collectibles. They cant pose as both at the same price. And even with the colors of plastic chosen, it really makes no sense. take Takara bone white vs. Hasbro off white for instance. it's not a G1 vs neo, or a toy accurate vs. cartoon accurate arguement. It's just a case of Hasbro making poor decisions. Decisions that should be standard to the product worldwide. These decisions shouldnt play such a huge factor of placing the Takara product on a pedastool and making the Hasbro version purposely look inferior.
Sabrblade wrote:Noticing that their names were switched for the English version of the cartoon, Takara did not want to have the same confusion between the show and toys that Hasbro had with their versions. so, to remedy their situation, They switched Rumble's and Frenzy's names back around for the Japanese dub of the cartoon, making, in the Japanese language version of the cartoon, Frenzy be the more often seen purple/blue one and Rumble be the less often seen black/red one.
DinobotSix wrote:just noticed the reply above mentioning the Red Casseticon also using Pile Driver arms. hmm...I seem to vaguely recall it, but haven't watched the G1 anime in a while. Thanks!
F Prime wrote:Yup, it occurs at 1:33 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCB-jVLGAeo
Rated X wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Deruji wrote:Sabrblade wrote:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/TampographRated X wrote:Ive never heard of Tampographs and dont know what they are.
You can see the process explained, at 3:50 you can also see the mass production version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq24QaLArso
Very interesting. But if it's this easy, then that just opens the door for arguments on why Hasbro versions have SOME of the paint apps, but not ALL of the paint apps Takara versions have. I hate that American market vs. Japanese Market argument Hasbro always throws up in convention pannels. Theyre basically saying American kids are savages who destroy their toys and dont deserve the extra 50 cents worth of Tampo ink. Or are they saying Japanese kids dont buy toy robots, only Japanese adult collectors ? Either way, something seems lazy and cheap on Hasbro's part.
It's indeed Japanese vs. American market. Unlike Hasbro, TakaraTomy has to compete rather aggressively with big companies like Bandai. And I mean BIG: Bandai has I think the lion's share in the robot toy figure department and then some, in both the kids' and adult collector's market.
What are some of these Bandai Japanese Transforming toys that compete with Takara ??? i dont mean Gundam or Power Rangers. But robots that actually Transform. Is there a reason why Takara doesnt offer cheap Hasbro style versions meant for kids, not collectors. At 35 bucks a pop, Takara isnt doing themselves any favors trying to sell kids toys. I really dont get this whole "Asian market" thing. Either theyre kids toys or collectibles. They cant pose as both at the same price. And even with the colors of plastic chosen, it really makes no sense. take Takara bone white vs. Hasbro off white for instance. it's not a G1 vs neo, or a toy accurate vs. cartoon accurate arguement. It's just a case of Hasbro making poor decisions. Decisions that should be standard to the product worldwide. These decisions shouldnt play such a huge factor of placing the Takara product on a pedastool and making the Hasbro version purposely look inferior.
Mindmaster wrote:I wish Frenzy (Rumble!) came with Ravage instead, I'd much rather have those two over Rumble (Frenzy!) and Buzzsaw.
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