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Rated X wrote:Words and stuff
Rated X wrote:I read your posts hoping you would call fof some movie voids that were never filled like deluxe versions of the other 2 dreads, the 2 constructicons that never got a non legends class figure, deluxe stinger, the two headed Shockwave, the garbage truck combiner team, screen accurate voyager versions of the other dinobots, or KOs of the rare canceled figures such as leadfoot, soundwave, and que.
Other than you calling for a steeljaw figure, all I read is more endless banter about "leader class this" or "supreme class that". You dont care about filling movie voids the fandom has called for. You just want huge figures of characters you deem important. We have heard this from you countless times before. I guess you are still stuck inside the washing machine in an endless cycle bouncing around. In your own words, "wash, rinse, repeat".
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is there a market for 100% full-figure movie toys?
... I guess so. But I don't know if there's enough of a market to really justify it's existence. Once the kids who grew up with the movies get some purchasing power I think this'll change, but for now the movieverse is pretty covered, I think.
A big part of collecting is the cost. And what we have is pretty good quality-to-price. And Blackout ... the trailers hyped him up a LOT, didn't they? He doesn't actually DO much in the first move, other than making a strong first impression and then die. Is there a market for a $200 or $300 figure of the guy? I get people want him, but do they want him to the tune of $300?
Maybe the one exception I can really see is Devestator. He was NOT done justice in toy form by ANY stretch. As he splits into several smaller robots, like other 3rd party combiners, I can see this being more of a thing. Of course he didn't even make your offhand list and if that's the case how memorable was Devestator really? But, maybe, more for when the current generation grows up.
GiveMeSkyfire wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is there a market for 100% full-figure movie toys?
... I guess so. But I don't know if there's enough of a market to really justify it's existence. Once the kids who grew up with the movies get some purchasing power I think this'll change, but for now the movieverse is pretty covered, I think.
A big part of collecting is the cost. And what we have is pretty good quality-to-price. And Blackout ... the trailers hyped him up a LOT, didn't they? He doesn't actually DO much in the first move, other than making a strong first impression and then die. Is there a market for a $200 or $300 figure of the guy? I get people want him, but do they want him to the tune of $300?
Maybe the one exception I can really see is Devestator. He was NOT done justice in toy form by ANY stretch. As he splits into several smaller robots, like other 3rd party combiners, I can see this being more of a thing. Of course he didn't even make your offhand list and if that's the case how memorable was Devestator really? But, maybe, more for when the current generation grows up.
That is a good point about the younger generation being a future market. Maybe they will be more nostalgia driven to spend big money. If it wasn't for that I cant say I would be so easily separated from my cash for the current 3rd P stuff
Tsutsukakushi wrote:GiveMeSkyfire wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Is there a market for 100% full-figure movie toys?
... I guess so. But I don't know if there's enough of a market to really justify it's existence. Once the kids who grew up with the movies get some purchasing power I think this'll change, but for now the movieverse is pretty covered, I think.
A big part of collecting is the cost. And what we have is pretty good quality-to-price. And Blackout ... the trailers hyped him up a LOT, didn't they? He doesn't actually DO much in the first move, other than making a strong first impression and then die. Is there a market for a $200 or $300 figure of the guy? I get people want him, but do they want him to the tune of $300?
Maybe the one exception I can really see is Devestator. He was NOT done justice in toy form by ANY stretch. As he splits into several smaller robots, like other 3rd party combiners, I can see this being more of a thing. Of course he didn't even make your offhand list and if that's the case how memorable was Devestator really? But, maybe, more for when the current generation grows up.
That is a good point about the younger generation being a future market. Maybe they will be more nostalgia driven to spend big money. If it wasn't for that I cant say I would be so easily separated from my cash for the current 3rd P stuff
To debunk this, None of the Beast Wars kids from Two decades ago are here in large enough numbers to warrant high sales for 3rd party beast wars toys.
waiting Two to three decades to create 3rd party movie toys, think is a big mistake. It's just a niche line, It doesn't have the populaity G-1 will always have.
Think the best time to release 3rd party movie TF toys is when the movies are still in theatres.
GiveMeSkyfire wrote:Rated X wrote:Words and stuff
Tell us again which line it was you collect again?
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote:I read your posts hoping you would call fof some movie voids that were never filled like deluxe versions of the other 2 dreads, the 2 constructicons that never got a non legends class figure, deluxe stinger, the two headed Shockwave, the garbage truck combiner team, screen accurate voyager versions of the other dinobots, or KOs of the rare canceled figures such as leadfoot, soundwave, and que.
Other than you calling for a steeljaw figure, all I read is more endless banter about "leader class this" or "supreme class that". You dont care about filling movie voids the fandom has called for. You just want huge figures of characters you deem important. We have heard this from you countless times before. I guess you are still stuck inside the washing machine in an endless cycle bouncing around. In your own words, "wash, rinse, repeat".
You are clear to create your own wish list. Those were the rules of this thread.
No, I am not going to adjust my own wish list to please you or cater to you. Your not the center of the universe or fandom. Other fans have wish list also. Seems like when Hastak or 3rd parties are not catering to your whims-wish list. This is when you lose control, go nuts, bezerk and go on a endless rampage of ruining threads with your childish imature behavior. where you beg, demand and whine Twenty plus times in replies in each thread in every thread. That you want everything your way or else. With very little compassion to other fans desires and wish list.
Bringing up old scores, insults and arguments from other threads in a newer thread. Is another fine example of you trying to start more trouble and ruin newer threads.
GiveMeSkyfire wrote:Tell us again which line it was you collect again?
Rated X wrote:Maybe it's time you just get off my **** and move on. T-Man doesnt need a mouthpiece. He has proven to be more than willing to speak his mind, even if he sometimes puts his foot in his mouth.
Rated X wrote: You asked a simple question: Is their a market for 3rd party Micheal Bay movie-verse TF full figure toys?
Rated X wrote:Other than you calling for a steeljaw figure, all I read is more endless banter about "leader class this" or "supreme class that". You dont care about filling movie voids the fandom has called for. You just want huge figures of characters you deem important. We have heard this from you countless times before. I guess you are still stuck inside the washing machine in an endless cycle bouncing around. In your own words, "wash, rinse, repeat".
Tsutsukakushi wrote:GiveMeSkyfire wrote:Tell us again which line it was you collect again?Rated X wrote:Maybe it's time you just get off my **** and move on. T-Man doesnt need a mouthpiece. He has proven to be more than willing to speak his mind, even if he sometimes puts his foot in his mouth.
He asked you a simple, Nice question. He doesn't deserve the response here that you gave him.
He was curious what Other TF toy lines you collect and he asked you in a nice question. If you didn't want to answer him, You could have just ignored him.
You are trying your best to create trouble, have fights and ruin this thread. Nobody is playing your game in this thread, So now you up the ante with more mean words unjustly attacking,Getmeskyfire. in hopes he sees your mean spirted words towards him and gives you the fighting argument in this thread that you seek.
GiveMeSkyfire wrote: As far as beast wars not being big as g1 based 3rd party stuff, I think that the generation that was really into them is just now coming into the demographic that should have more expendible income to splurge on big ticket items. I would think that the next 10 years we will start seeing an unptick in those products.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't think it would be wise for 3rd parties to do BW toys in the same scale as the HasTak BW ones. Think they've got to go a scale or Two bigger to get 3rd party buyers to buy.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think it pointless doing BW deluxe scale 3rd party toy. As HasTak has the updates market covered, doing all those Classics-Generations deluxe toys.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:KFC Cyclonus is a example of some fans not wanting to buy the toy. Due it being in the same scale as the HasTak 2.0 Cyclonus toy.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't think it would be wise for 3rd parties to do BW toys in the same scale as the HasTak BW ones. Think they've got to go a scale or Two bigger to get 3rd party buyers to buy.
Rated X wrote:Why ? Why the obsession with huge figures ? it's an honest question about your unusual scale preferences)
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think it pointless doing BW deluxe scale 3rd party toy. As HasTak has the updates market covered, doing all those Classics-Generations deluxe toys.
Rated X wrote:If Hasbro had all beast wars deluxe updates covered, do you think they would have let TFCC do Rampage, Depthcharge, and Tarantulas from non-beast molds. Obviously, proper beast versions are not in the works anytime soon.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:KFC Cyclonus is a example of some fans not wanting to buy the toy. Due it being in the same scale as the HasTak 2.0 Cyclonus toy.
Rated X wrote:Or maybe they just don't need a character Hasbro already got right, including scale.
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