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News Credits: 33 · Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:43 am

Hi, just looking for a more expert eye on wether or not this is a fake i have looked at a couple of other and have not seen the same one as this ,

Also the blue center arm in base mode has a little nub snaped off, is that arm replaceable ? and the price is £17.50 if it is original is it worth that much with the damage and amount of accessories?.

Last question how many parts missing?.

Here are some pictures.
Thanks for any help.

News Credits: 4 · Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:01 am

can't help you IDing a KO, it looks pretty close to the G1 original that I have somewhere. Looks to me like everything is there, but the bit that's snapped off is what plugs the trailer into the cab section. I'd say that's a decent price for it, but if you're really after a PM Prime, see if you can pick up one of the reissues from a few years back, some nice improvements were made (it being based on the Japanese release rather than the rest of the world one) as discussed in the PMP is PIMP thread a wee while back.

News Credits: 241 · Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:05 am

From what I can tell it's the real deal from 1988, which has a couple differences from the reissue. In fact, the reissue is based on the Japanese version of the toy, called Super Ginrai. The differences are:

- the Super Mode arms are a new mold, with retractable fists, on the original they're solid pieces.
- the engine figure is chromed, and unchromed on the original
- the cab has some retooling done, adding die cast. The original has none.
- the Super Mode legs are chromed, again, not on the original

So yeah, you scored a complete vintage original with only the hitch broken off (which is fairly common). Not bad

Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:18 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:From what I can tell it's the real deal from 1988, which has a couple differences from the reissue. In fact, the reissue is based on the Japanese version of the toy, called Super Ginrai. The differences are:

- the Super Mode arms are a new mold, with retractable fists, on the original they're solid pieces.
- the engine figure is chromed, and unchromed on the original
- the cab has some retooling done, adding die cast. The original has none.
- the Super Mode legs are chromed, again, not on the original

So yeah, you scored a complete vintage original with only the hitch broken off (which is fairly common). Not bad

Doesn't the cab on the reissue also use clear plastic for the windows, rather than stickers?

News Credits: 241 · Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:15 pm

Dark Optimum Supreme wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:From what I can tell it's the real deal from 1988, which has a couple differences from the reissue. In fact, the reissue is based on the Japanese version of the toy, called Super Ginrai. The differences are:

- the Super Mode arms are a new mold, with retractable fists, on the original they're solid pieces.
- the engine figure is chromed, and unchromed on the original
- the cab has some retooling done, adding die cast. The original has none.
- the Super Mode legs are chromed, again, not on the original

So yeah, you scored a complete vintage original with only the hitch broken off (which is fairly common). Not bad

Doesn't the cab on the reissue also use clear plastic for the windows, rather than stickers?

For the cab windows, but not the false ones in his chest. That's part of the retooling.

News Credits: 3 · Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:09 pm

Looks to me to be completely legit, and complete! Only problem is the very common snapped off trailer connector, which can be fixed a number of ways. Sweet find.

Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:07 am

It indeed looks like the real deal. As for the broken trailer connector, you can still attach the trailer to the truck if you get a small screw and screw it into the broken part, and inserting the screw head to the cab's hole.