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News Credits: 26 · by **MaverickPrime** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:26 am

william-james88 wrote:The number of exclusives may look large, but you can remove the two doubles along with the retailer exclusives which are still mass market releases, and the list no longer becomes too staggering.

I personally find Leader Jetfire to be the champion of that list as he is the bigggest mass release homage released this year and is an awesome example of how interesting the various roots for these toys are.

But like someone said, the thrilling 30 line in the generations series made up for this with G1, Beast Wars and Armada coming together (with Jetfire also championing the line).

You're right! Not only they doubled two figures, they just repacked unchanged retail releases! Seriously, the 30th anniversary deserved better, this feels almost as bad as Capcom "celebrating" Mega Man's anniversary by releasing a fan made game as their own, that was a new low.
Transformers came out a year later in Japan, right? Please tell me we still might get a truly spectacular SOMETHING from Takara

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:52 pm

william-james88 wrote:along with the retailer exclusives which are still mass market releases,

No they're not. Mass market releases are available at every store, not one store.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:23 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:along with the retailer exclusives which are still mass market releases,
No they're not. Mass market releases are available at every store, not one store.

So would a british person consider AOE deluxe figures as retailer exclusive instead of mass market release ?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:24 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:along with the retailer exclusives which are still mass market releases,
No they're not. Mass market releases are available at every store, not one store.

So would a british person consider AOE deluxe figures as retailer exclusive instead of mass market release ?

Rephrasing: Mass market releases are supposed to be available at every store, not one store.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:27 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:along with the retailer exclusives which are still mass market releases,
No they're not. Mass market releases are available at every store, not one store.

So would a british person consider AOE deluxe figures as retailer exclusive instead of mass market release ?
Rephrasing: Mass market releases are supposed to be available at every store, not one store.

Oh ho! Such tricky phrasing

All I meant to say was that the retailer exclusives were not things you had to attend cons for or were only available online.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:29 pm

william-james88 wrote:All I meant to say was that the retailer exclusives were not things you had to attend cons for or were only available online.

Well, who said everything on this list had to be those kinds of exclusives? All that was ever said (or at least implied) about the figures on this list is that they would be "special". Certainly that would apply for some, if not most, of the listed ones that weren't convention/online exclusives, no?

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:All I meant to say was that the retailer exclusives were not things you had to attend cons for or were only available online.
Well, who said everything on this list had to be those kinds of exclusives? All that was ever said (or at least implied) about the figures on this list is that they would be "special". Certainly that would apply for some, if not most, of the listed ones that weren't convention/online exclusives, no?

Sure does.

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:37 pm

Does anyone have a complete colletion of all 30? Boxed pics?
It would be impressive to see all of them together. (Not just individual, but a large group photo.)

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:03 pm

DISCHARGE wrote:Does anyone have a complete colletion of all 30? Boxed pics?
It would be impressive to see all of them together. (Not just individual, but a large group photo.)

Can't here, only have 24 so far and still have some to pick up. Not gonna buy that ACG Metroplex or CybCon BH OP though. Also, two of the entries (Breakout Battle and G1 Deco AOE Sludge) aren't out yet here in the US.

Finally, I threw away the package for #14 due to the mixup between it and FE AOE Prime being that number.

Fun times!

by **RedShifter88** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:20 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The mass retail Generations line itself was what celebrated the 30th anniversary, containing toys that paid tribute to G1 (both 1980's and IDW's new take), Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, and more.

Right on.

I can't tell you how many years I wanted to find a reasonably priced Hot Rod, Springer, and Jazz, that weren't broken or worn from age, and how much I was bummed out, for missing out on what I once considered Hasbro's only car-Arcee. Generations solved all of this and then some...

Sabrblade wrote:The 30 special toys were just something that the fandom put more importance on than Hasbro did, making them seem far more significant than the lame gimmick they really were, which tends to be the case for most lame gimmicks Hasbro does.

While I agree the fandom helped with the popularity of these releases, I feel Hasbro played the biggest part in the creation of this list:
- More AOE content than any (including the 1986) of the previous movies.
- More Transformers: Prime content than any of the previous series.
- Way too many items at the high price point.
- Way too many exclusives. Remember, Hasbro - Most of your past toys have been non-exclusives, and those toys are what have grown your Transformers line, and led to so many great series and fans.

I think I'll at least get Windblade. Jetfire is a distant maybe, but just a maybe right now.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:37 pm

RedShifter88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The mass retail Generations line itself was what celebrated the 30th anniversary, containing toys that paid tribute to G1 (both 1980's and IDW's new take), Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, and more.

Right on. I can't tell you how many years I wanted to find a reasonably priced Hot Rod, Springer, and Jazz, that weren't broken or worn from age, and how much I was bummed out, for missing out on what I once considered Hasbro's only car-Arcee. Generations solved all of this and then some...

Its too bad its no longer the case for Hot Rod and Jazz, the classics (with decent deco) are now expensive again.

by **RedShifter88** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:54 pm

william-james88 wrote:
RedShifter88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The mass retail Generations line itself was what celebrated the 30th anniversary, containing toys that paid tribute to G1 (both 1980's and IDW's new take), Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, and more.

Right on. I can't tell you how many years I wanted to find a reasonably priced Hot Rod, Springer, and Jazz, that weren't broken or worn from age, and how much I was bummed out, for missing out on what I once considered Hasbro's only car-Arcee. Generations solved all of this and then some...

Its too bad its no longer the case for Hot Rod and Jazz, the classics (with decent deco) are now expensive again.

Well, truth be told, I really lucked out with Special Ops Jazz, as he was out of retail, but I found him for about retail price at a comics show. However, Hot Rod was from the RTS 2-pack with Cyclonus/Nightstick, and wasn't the Classics v1.0. It's worth noting because this means you may see these two again... However, you'll have to wait until Hasbro "feels like it"... Also worth noting Hasbro only released two repaints of Classics Starscream, so two Classics Hot Rods might be it...