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There are a couple of things about this figure that may be the root of it's massive price, such as rubber wheels, translucent plastic, and diecast parts. Two of which are not found on FP toys.

Still, it's kinda small compared Warbot Defender. And I think that translucent plastic stand that comes with it is a completely unnecessary addition that just raises the price higher than what most people are willing to spend.
While on the subject of the stand... Am I the only one who thinks it looks, odd?

Oh, and the diecast knees and rubber wheels are bound to wear down over time.

Looks good I want one !!! And if Im not lucky enough to get this one, maybe this figures existance will increase the other version's availability and decrease its price. Hopefully I can pick up one or the other next year at Botcon. I just havent been able to get my hands wet in mail ordering stuff yet.

It took the Quints years to drop in price. I wouldn't expect a price drop to happen in a signifigan amount for a long time.

...It says iGear right there. How come we don't know who's making it when iGear right there says that it's up for preorder on their site?

Mindmaster wrote:...It says iGear right there. How come we don't know who's making it when iGear right there says that it's up for preorder on their site?

Gahh, I'm confused

http://shop.igeartoys.com/index.php?rou ... duct_id=80

Attention: This product is not made by iGear

That's why.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:...It says iGear right there. How come we don't know who's making it when iGear right there says that it's up for preorder on their site?

Gahh, I'm confused

http://shop.igeartoys.com/index.php?rou ... duct_id=80

Attention: This product is not made by iGear

That's why.

I'm sure they had a hand in it though. They probably helped produce the item for the designer. I'm sure they're involved in some capacity.

Mindmaster wrote:...It says iGear right there. How come we don't know who's making it when iGear right there says that it's up for preorder on their site?

Gahh, I'm confused

Igear is a third party company, they have an online store to sell their wears. They also sell products that they don't manufacture in house, including but not limited to hasbro's botcon exclusives, Partner Products' PP01 leader series, and now this delicate warrior.

As a company, Igear has great customer service, Partner Products is the company responsible for PP01 and Igear shouldn't be crucified for selling them to fans myself included, who want them. If the price is too high, don't by them.

On topic, I preordered 2 of these Arcees today.

Sooooo...... was it the regular MP Prime in the picture or the mini??
Man, chicks are expensive!!!!!!

vectorA3 wrote:Sooooo...... was it the regular MP Prime in the picture or the mini??
Man, chicks are expensive!!!!!!

Mini.

Not impressed with the proportions / wheel placement based on the side shot in vehicle mode. Seems off. The rest of it looks really good though. For the price, a mega pass for me, especially since my son already has Animated Arcee. Get the quality up and the price down, build some of the other bots on the back of the box, then maybe we'll talk...

Daddycon

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:...It says iGear right there. How come we don't know who's making it when iGear right there says that it's up for preorder on their site?

Gahh, I'm confused

http://shop.igeartoys.com/index.php?rou ... duct_id=80

Attention: This product is not made by iGear

That's why.

I feel like a complete idiot now

The more I think about it, the more I realize I'd rather have this figure instead of Valkyrie. However, the vehicle mode proportions are off on this one, especially the wheels. They're just too big. And it's still out of my price range regardless. Get rid of the ugly stand, drop the price by $20-$30, and I'd consider it.

Sucks that I just spent so much on an inferior toy.

Does anybody still have valkyrie still in their POL at BBTS and decided to cancel that for this figure? I am considering it but I can't make up my mind. They both have their pros and cons.

Mini Prime --i knew it!!!!

I'd love it if Hasbro made G1 arcee as SDCC exclusive. Not a botcon exclusive since I don't have $500 to spend & that's even if i could get one. She'd probably sell out b4 the show practically.

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:Does anybody still have valkyrie still in their POL at BBTS and decided to cancel that for this figure? I am considering it but I can't make up my mind. They both have their pros and cons.

Mines in my POL, but it's been there for 2 weeks, so I'm stuck with it and can't cancel it... oh well!

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DavidT wrote:

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:Does anybody still have valkyrie still in their POL at BBTS and decided to cancel that for this figure? I am considering it but I can't make up my mind. They both have their pros and cons.

Mines in my POL, but it's been there for 2 weeks, so I'm stuck with it and can't cancel it... oh well!

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I didn't realize you can only cancel items for two weeks. That is a sorry policy, you should be able to cancel all items that haven't shipped. I guess I am stuck with mine also. Of course I could try selling it on my own.

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:

DavidT wrote:

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:Does anybody still have valkyrie still in their POL at BBTS and decided to cancel that for this figure? I am considering it but I can't make up my mind. They both have their pros and cons.

Mines in my POL, but it's been there for 2 weeks, so I'm stuck with it and can't cancel it... oh well!

.

I didn't realize you can only cancel items for two weeks. That is a sorry policy, you should be able to cancel all items that haven't shipped. I guess I am stuck with mine also. Of course I could try selling it on my own.

You used to could cancel any items at anytime from your POL, but BBTS had stuff sitting in their warehouse for more than 6months and even a year for people that just let their POL sit there. They needed more space and it didn't help if they held items for 6months and then someone cancel it after all that time... They lose money... so a few months ago they changed their policy to 15 days.... I wish they would as least change it to a month, but I understand why they did it...

Also... they claim that if you don't ship your loot within 180 days, they will automatically ship it for you... I usually ship my POL's around every 3 months anyway

DavidT wrote:

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:

DavidT wrote:

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:Does anybody still have valkyrie still in their POL at BBTS and decided to cancel that for this figure? I am considering it but I can't make up my mind. They both have their pros and cons.

Mines in my POL, but it's been there for 2 weeks, so I'm stuck with it and can't cancel it... oh well!

.

I didn't realize you can only cancel items for two weeks. That is a sorry policy, you should be able to cancel all items that haven't shipped. I guess I am stuck with mine also. Of course I could try selling it on my own.

You used to could cancel any items at anytime from your POL, but BBTS had stuff sitting in their warehouse for more than 6months and even a year for people that just let their POL sit there. They needed more space and it didn't help if they held items for 6months and then someone cancel it after all that time... They lose money... so a few months ago they changed their policy to 15 days.... I wish they would as least change it to a month, but I understand why they did it...
Also... they claim that if you don't ship your loot within 180 days, they will automatically ship it for you... I usually ship my POL's around every 3 months anyway

That makes sense now after you explained it but 15 days is asinine. Just checked ebay for valkyrie auctions and saw one that was up to $143, now that is asinine.

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:

DavidT wrote:

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:

DavidT wrote:

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:Does anybody still have valkyrie still in their POL at BBTS and decided to cancel that for this figure? I am considering it but I can't make up my mind. They both have their pros and cons.

Mines in my POL, but it's been there for 2 weeks, so I'm stuck with it and can't cancel it... oh well!

.

I didn't realize you can only cancel items for two weeks. That is a sorry policy, you should be able to cancel all items that haven't shipped. I guess I am stuck with mine also. Of course I could try selling it on my own.

You used to could cancel any items at anytime from your POL, but BBTS had stuff sitting in their warehouse for more than 6months and even a year for people that just let their POL sit there. They needed more space and it didn't help if they held items for 6months and then someone cancel it after all that time... They lose money... so a few months ago they changed their policy to 15 days.... I wish they would as least change it to a month, but I understand why they did it...
Also... they claim that if you don't ship your loot within 180 days, they will automatically ship it for you... I usually ship my POL's around every 3 months anyway

That makes sense now after you explained it but 15 days is asinine. Just checked ebay for valkyrie auctions and saw one that was up to $143, now that is asinine.

I saw that too... doesn't make sense cause they are still in stock at BBTS for less than half that

Heck, you can get Valkyrie and the medic for less than that...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Transformers-G1-Arce ... 35ab3d146d

I guess some people don't know about BBTS. I bought it for too much at TFcon and now I don't feel so bad.

This looks to be a lot more solid than the Valkyrie version. I like that the arms and guns seem to be bigger as well. But honestly, the "appearence" that the figure is less back heavy sells it to me. Videos of Valkyrie made it seem near impossible to pose. This figure seems to have less of a problem. My biggest con is the head sculpt on this one. Whats with the huge holes in the side of her head? Throw the Valkyrie head sculpt on this figure and it's pure win.

Gauntlet101010 wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT

It has ended now, but seriously?! No seriously?!


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W-wow. Seriously, is that what the aftermarket prices will be like on this thing?

DavidT wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT

It has ended now, but seriously?! No seriously?!


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It is very baffling.

UnknownTrans4mingBot wrote:

DavidT wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT

It has ended now, but seriously?! No seriously?!


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It is very baffling.

Oh, I don't think so.

BBTS is known by many, but not all. eBay reaches a much, much larger number of people, and there are quite a few people who aren't in the know.

The seller should be ashamed of themselves for robbing someone blind like that, but it's not really baffling.