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News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:15 am

Dead Metal wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Remember, I said I wasnt commenting on a "till the death" fight.....just a fight.

I know thats how this topic started out but it just doesnt seem to be a converstation that can really go anywhere.

Dude, you can't just change the conditions because you don't like it.

Now, let me reiterate; what could Batman possibly do to Wolverine that will prevent Wolverine from getting up two minutes later and continue hunting down Batman?

He could knock him out and then commit suicide. That way Logan won't be able to shred him to pieces.

That's a win for Wolverine. In boxing, if you lay flat on the floor until they declare it a knock out, that does not mean you win because your opponent didn't actually knock you out.

by **victoryconvoy** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:40 am

franki edger vs grey maynard is a good idea in how i think this fight would go just stick with me for a second grey knocks down edger the first round and almost finishes the fight it was a real one sided ass whipping edger comes back and rallies to make it a very competitive fight now imagine if edger had a healing factor he would win because he could take crazy damage and come back another point in this example is these people trained for three months and planned all kinds or stratagys for this fight one punch later most of the plans fly right out the window and now they gotta wing it

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:50 am

"No plan survives contact with the enemy." Your last few posts in one often-repeated sentence.

by **victoryconvoy** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:00 am

Shadowman wrote:"No plan survives contact with the enemy." Your last few posts in one often-repeated sentence.

sorry bro i just get so tired of the batman can beat any body stuff any time it really just gets to me

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:28 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Dude, you can't just change the conditions because you don't like it.

I'm not changing the conditions of the topic.

I just offered up an opinion based on a different line of thought.

Take it for what bits worth to you.

Now, let me reiterate; what could Batman possibly do to Wolverine that will prevent Wolverine from getting up two minutes later and continue hunting down Batman?

Batman could leave Wolverine down for far more then 2 minutes.

Let me reiterate, I dont see the point in a "till the death" conversation with these 2 characters.
Theres no challenge in such a debate.

A]Batman is hardly ever willing to kill
B] Wolverine is practically immortal
Logan could just sit still and wait for Batman to die of old age.

victoryconvoy wrote:sorry bro i just get so tired of the batman can beat any body stuff any time it really just gets to me

The answer to that is a logical debate.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:49 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Batman could leave Wolverine down for far more then 2 minutes.

Let me reiterate, I dont see the point in a "till the death" conversation with these 2 characters.
Theres no challenge in such a debate.

A]Batman is hardly ever willing to kill
B] Wolverine is practically immortal
Logan could just sit still and wait for Batman to die of old age.

Good point. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you. Once more, with gusto: What could Batman do to keep Wolverine down for more than a few minutes?

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:55 pm

victoryconvoy wrote:promethius took down the justic leauge god i miss morrison wrighting it

Yes, whats your point??

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Batman's over reliance on technology is his achilles heal, without that tech' Batman is just a guy in a fancy party suit.

This comment proves you dont understand the character very well.

victoryconvoy wrote:xavier erased magnitos mind xavier also erased the minds of quite a few people to do things for the greater good

Completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

Shadowman wrote:Good point. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you. Once more, with gusto: What could Batman do to keep Wolverine down for more than a few minutes?

Theres plenty he could do, with the time to plan, the resources and knowledge of Logan.

The simplest would be a sonic weapon of a kind, with Logans heightened hearing such a devise could put him out for hours.

Again, not going to take him out for ever, but it would be a win if we were just talking about a knock out fight.

News Credits: 1 · by **MightyMagnus78** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:07 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
victoryconvoy wrote:promethius took down the justic leauge god i miss morrison wrighting it

Yes, whats your point??

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Batman's over reliance on technology is his achilles heal, without that tech' Batman is just a guy in a fancy party suit.

This comment proves you dont understand the character very well.

victoryconvoy wrote:xavier erased magnitos mind xavier also erased the minds of quite a few people to do things for the greater good

Completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

Shadowman wrote:Good point. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you. Once more, with gusto: What could Batman do to keep Wolverine down for more than a few minutes?

Theres plenty he could do, with the time to plan, the resources and knowledge of Logan.

The simplest would be a sonic weapon of a kind, with Logans heightened hearing such a devise could put him out for hours.

Again, not going to take him out for ever, but it would be a win if we were just talking about a knock out fight.

Well, that may be the case, however I know enough to make comment and I confidently stand by that.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:14 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Well, that may be the case, however I know enough to make comment and I confidently stand by that.

No disrespect but that like saying you know enough about math but stick to a comment that states that 2+2=5.

Batman may use tech but he's not overly reliant on on it. Hell, he more then proven he can survive with no tech at all.

News Credits: 1 · by **MightyMagnus78** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:41 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Well, that may be the case, however I know enough to make comment and I confidently stand by that.

No disrespect but that like saying you know enough about math but stick to a comment that states that 2+2=5.

Batman may use tech but he's not overly reliant on on it. Hell, he more then proven he can survive with no tech at all.

Yes, However NOT against Wolverine, in a cage, in a fight to the death. I believe under those conditions Batman has no choice but to rely on his gadgets. Without those gadgets (stab-proof vest, Batarangs etc) Batman is essential an ordinary mortal. Yes he may have unparalleled martial arts skills, but even taking that into consideration Wolverine still wins comfortably in my opinion! 4

by **victoryconvoy** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:35 pm

sto-vo-kor-2000 i really love your oppinions on this board but i feel that you are really trying to take alot of things out of contex in this whole topic ,please do not take things i said out of topic .Any one here will admit batman can beat just about any body,even i belive that but,but when you come in and change what every one is talking about to try and prove a point thateven agreed with,then not even answer the question i asked about who would have more wins if they fought 19 or 20 times i think is unusual. I dont claim to be an expert in comics,nor am i really good with a computer,but i know well enuff when some one does not want to listen to some one else ......for any one out there who wants to read a really good story where wolverine is not at his strongest and has to fight one of the greatest assains in the world pick up not dead yet warren ellis i belive wrote it

also if you want to see what kind of badass batman really is when it comes to putting together a sound plan you should really read grant morrisons jla run some of the best stuff i read when it came to comics and one of if not the main reason some people think batman can beat any one

by **victoryconvoy** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:53 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
victoryconvoy wrote:promethius took down the justic leauge god i miss morrison wrighting it

Yes, whats your point??

he used batmans plans ,that plan didnt work for bats
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Batman's over reliance on technology is his achilles heal, without that tech' Batman is just a guy in a fancy party suit.

This comment proves you dont understand the character very well.

victoryconvoy wrote:xavier erased magnitos mind xavier also erased the minds of quite a few people to do things for the greater good[/qu
Completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.
i only was making a ridiculus plan that would be as stupid to the conversatins people have when people say batman always has a plan
Shadowman wrote:Good point. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you. Once more, with gusto: What could Batman do to keep Wolverine down for more than a few minutes?

Theres plenty he could do, with the time to plan, the resources and knowledge of Logan.

The simplest would be a sonic weapon of a kind, with Logans heightened hearing such a devise could put him out for hours.
yes only if wolverine didnt plan ahead of time to pop his ear drums with his own claws so it wouldent work on him
Again, not going to take him out for ever, but it would be a win if we were just talking about a knock out fight.

bottem line logan is not that stupid if he knew batman was out to get him he would have his own plans in a normal fight if they lets say just meet up because say wolverine wants to kill the joker and batman wants to stop him batman will go down and the jokers dead ..lets say seven months go bye and wolverine happens to be telling some of his buddys in a shady bar how he beat some idiot dressed as a bat up and killed some puny guy that dresses like like a clown the bulding blew up and as he was getting out of the bar a semi truck hits him and then batman puts him in cement and makes him sign a contract with his mouth because only his head is sticking out of the block of cement and then pisses on his head i will have to conced tha the bat really messed him up

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:54 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Well, that may be the case, however I know enough to make comment and I confidently stand by that.

No disrespect but that like saying you know enough about math but stick to a comment that states that 2+2=5.

Batman may use tech but he's not overly reliant on on it. Hell, he more then proven he can survive with no tech at all.

Yes, However NOT against Wolverine, in a cage, in a fight to the death. I believe under those conditions Batman has no choice but to rely on his gadgets.

With that I pretty much agree.

Your earlir statement read [at least to me] as more of a general statement and not one geared sepcifily at this fight.

Sorry if I misunderstood you.

victoryconvoy wrote:sto-vo-kor-2000 i really love your oppinions on this board but i feel that you are really trying to take alot of things out of contex in this whole topic ,please do not take things i said out of topic .Any one here will admit batman can beat just about any body,even i belive that but,but when you come in and change what every one is talking about to try and prove a point thateven agreed with,then not even answer the question i asked about who would have more wins if they fought 19 or 20 times i think is unusual. I dont claim to be an expert in comics,nor am i really good with a computer,but i know well enuff when some one does not want to listen to some one else ......

I'm not really trying to change the topic of conversation.

I'm just trying to have a "conversation" worth having.

No disrespect to you or anyone else here, but the way you set up this match posses no hope for a conversation or a debate.

Asking who wins, putting Logan and Batman in a cage to the death is like asking whats 1+1, or asking if the sun will rise tomorrow.The answers to both questions are pretty much inevitable and well known.

Theres no point to talking about it.

Wolverine cant really die, he's particularly immortal.

Batman isint often willing to kill, even if his own life is at stake.

So, wheres the logic in putting them in a death match together and asking others for opinions??

Theres no challenge in that kind of conversation, theres no debate at all.

However, putting the 2 in a fight, not to the death but to who wins that fight and only that fight alone, now thats a conversation worth having.

So forgive me, I attempted to bring some logic to your topic.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:01 pm

victoryconvoy wrote:
he used batmans plans ,that plan didnt work for bats

The plans worked.

It doesnt matter who implemented them.

As a matter of fact, I think it proves my point even more that someone else was able to implement the plans.

yes only if wolverine didnt plan ahead of time to pop his ear drums with his own claws so it wouldent work on him

Now whos argument sounds silly??

Logan's not likely to do something like that unless he knew about such a weapon.

And, his ear drum would heal in a few seconds anyway, leaving him vulnerable to the weapon yet again.

bottem line logan is not that stupid if he knew batman was out to get him he would have his own plans in a normal fight if they lets say just meet up because say wolverine wants to kill the joker and batman wants to stop him batman will go down and the jokers dead ..lets say seven months go bye and wolverine happens to be telling some of his buddys in a shady bar how he beat some idiot dressed as a bat up and killed some puny guy that dresses like like a clown the bulding blew up and as he was getting out of the bar a semi truck hits him and then batman puts him in cement and makes him sign a contract with his mouth because only his head is sticking out of the block of cement and then pisses on his head i will have to conced tha the bat really messed him up

ok bud

News Credits: 1 · by **MightyMagnus78** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:19 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
MightyMagnus78 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Well, that may be the case, however I know enough to make comment and I confidently stand by that.

No disrespect but that like saying you know enough about math but stick to a comment that states that 2+2=5.

Batman may use tech but he's not overly reliant on on it. Hell, he more then proven he can survive with no tech at all.

Yes, However NOT against Wolverine, in a cage, in a fight to the death. I believe under those conditions Batman has no choice but to rely on his gadgets.

With that I pretty much agree.

Your earlir statement read [at least to me] as more of a general statement and not one geared sepcifily at this fight.

Sorry if I misunderstood you.
victoryconvoy wrote:sto-vo-kor-2000 i really love your oppinions on this board but i feel that you are really trying to take alot of things out of contex in this whole topic ,please do not take things i said out of topic .Any one here will admit batman can beat just about any body,even i belive that but,but when you come in and change what every one is talking about to try and prove a point thateven agreed with,then not even answer the question i asked about who would have more wins if they fought 19 or 20 times i think is unusual. I dont claim to be an expert in comics,nor am i really good with a computer,but i know well enuff when some one does not want to listen to some one else ......

I'm not really trying to change the topic of conversation.

I'm just trying to have a "conversation" worth having.

No disrespect to you or anyone else here, but the way you set up this match posses no hope for a conversation or a debate.

Asking who wins, putting Logan and Batman in a cage to the death is like asking whats 1+1, or asking if the sun will rise tomorrow.The answers to both questions are pretty much inevitable and well known.

Theres no point to talking about it.

Wolverine cant really die, he's particularly immortal.

Batman isint often willing to kill, even if his own life is at stake.

So, wheres the logic in putting them in a death match together and asking others for opinions??

Theres no challenge in that kind of conversation, theres no debate at all.

However, putting the 2 in a fight, not to the death but to who wins that fight and only that fight alone, now thats a conversation worth having.

So forgive me, I attempted to bring some logic to your topic.

No probs bud.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:31 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:No probs bud.

great to know

by **victoryconvoy** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:12 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
victoryconvoy wrote:
he used batmans plans ,that plan didnt work for bats

The plans worked.

yes they did but not for bats

It doesnt matter who implemented them.

yes it does

As a matter of fact, I think it proves my point even more that someone else was able to implement the plans.

the plan was great but remember batman didnt use it he didnt know some one else would take it

yes only if wolverine didnt plan ahead of time to pop his ear drums with his own claws so it wouldent work on him

Now whos argument sounds silly??

it was ment to be a silly argument

Logan's not likely to do something like that unless he knew about such a weapon.

why is it not silly to know about batmans plan?

And, his ear drum would heal in a few seconds anyway, leaving him vulnerable to the weapon yet again.

thats why he would do it again

bottem line logan is not that stupid if he knew batman was out to get him he would have his own plans in a normal fight if they lets say just meet up because say wolverine wants to kill the joker and batman wants to stop him batman will go down and the jokers dead ..lets say seven months go bye and wolverine happens to be telling some of his buddys in a shady bar how he beat some idiot dressed as a bat up and killed some puny guy that dresses like like a clown the bulding blew up and as he was getting out of the bar a semi truck hits him and then batman puts him in cement and makes him sign a contract with his mouth because only his head is sticking out of the block of cement and then pisses on his head i will have to conced tha the bat really messed him up

ok bud

this was some what of a half assed joke but batman can beat any body with planning the only person that i think could beat him that way is mr fantastic .....even if batman had lets say two days to figure it out i still belive logan could beat him no problem so what i will do is ask how many days does batman need to beat logan also who do you think can beat bat man because if batman and wolverine met up one on one and lets say they were both hunting down killer croc and wolverine wanted to kill croc cause he ate ababy or some thing and batman didnt want wolverine to kill him because he belives in justic and not killing wolverines walking away with batman really banged up and croc dead i can totally see batman beating him in a rematch because now he knows what hes dealing with but it shocks me that you dont want batman to lose ....period...no way ...no how....batman always has a pla.....he beat superman ....he beat time its self ...all im trying to say is that batman can be beat we can sit here and talk about this for weeks at a end but i must say how shocked i am that you are not willing to admit that batman can lose any fight unless the odds are stacked aganst him

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:17 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I'm not really trying to change the topic of conversation.

I'm just trying to have a "conversation" worth having.

So you're not trying to change the topic, you're just trying to change the topic. You know for someone who uses the word "logic" that much you sure do like to throw it out the window a lot.

A sonic weapon wouldn't make Wolverine pass out. Real-world sonic weapons DO exist; the sound causes the target's eardrums to break, causing severe pain. At that point there's no reason to have the weapon on anymore because the victim can't hear anything. Even if Wolverine's eardrums didn't break because of his healing factor, he's still not the kind of person to just lay down and take it; he's more likely to find the weapon, break it, then break the guy using it on him.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:31 pm

victoryconvoy wrote:yes it does

No it doesnt.

Not in any way.

the plan was great but remember batman didnt use it he didnt know some one else would take it

Completely irrelevant.

The fact that he came up with a plan that others could use to beat every hero is a testimonial to just how efficient the plan was.

it was ment to be a silly argument

ahhh

why is it not silly to know about batmans plan?

Theres no reason to assume Logan would have such info

thats why he would do it again

Back to the silly I see.

If he kept doing it it wouldnt have time to fight.

but it shocks me that you dont want batman to lose ....period...no way ...no how....batman always has a pla.....he beat superman ....he beat time its self ...all im trying to say is that batman can be beat we can sit here and talk about this for weeks at a end but i must say how shocked i am that you are not willing to admit that batman can lose any fight unless the odds are stacked aganst him

Not to sound rude but dont make assumptions about what I want.

I havent said a thing about what I want or would like.

Dont confuse my reporting about the character,how he has been written and his abilities with what I want or would like.

I personally hate that DC has pretty much made the "BatGod" unbeatable......but its how it is any my complaining about it isint going to change a thing.

Shadowman wrote:So you're not trying to change the topic, you're just trying to change the topic. You know for someone who uses the word "logic" that much you sure do like to throw it out the window a lot.

Sure bud.

Like I said, I didnt try to change the topic.

In my post, I explained the type of set up I was talking about.

You didnt have to reply if you didnt want to.

A sonic weapon wouldn't make Wolverine pass out. Real-world sonic weapons DO exist; the sound causes the target's eardrums to break, causing severe pain.

I'm not talking about "real world" sonic weapons.

I'm talking about the type we have seen in comics and other sci/fi/ adventures fictions before.Such a weapon can knock out even Wolverine.Its been done before.

At that point there's no reason to have the weapon on anymore because the victim can't hear anything. Even if Wolverine's eardrums didn't break because of his healing factor, he's still not the kind of person to just lay down and take it; he's more likely to find the weapon, break it, then break the guy using it on him.

Sure, when he wakes up.

At which point he's already lost that first fight.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:29 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Like I said, I didnt try to change the topic.

Yes you are. You're talking about a completely different setup because you don't like the setup this thread is here for. That is called, say it with me now: CHANGING THE TOPIC.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:In my post, I explained the type of set up I was talking about.

Yes, the type of setup that has nothing to do with the fight at hand.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sure, when he wakes up.

At which point he's already lost that first fight.

There's only ONE fight. And if Batman doesn't find a way to decapitate Wolverine while he's knocked out, then Wolverine will wake up and decapitate him.

by **victoryconvoy** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:36 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
victoryconvoy wrote:yes it does

No it doesnt.

Not in any way.

im sorry it really does
the plan was great but remember batman didnt use it he didnt know some one else would take it

Completely irrelevant.

it is relavant because his plan back fired on him

The fact that he came up with a plan that others could use to beat every hero is a testimonial to just how efficient the plan was.

which is why it is relavent he had it stolen from him and had a very evil bad guy use it aganst him
it was ment to be a silly argument

ahhh

did you think it was a little funny??
why is it not silly to know about batmans plan?

Theres no reason to assume Logan would have such info

no joke aside the same really could be said for batman
thats why he would do it again

Back to the silly I see.

it goes back to what im saying the argument is not i repat not about batman having time to get to wolverine but if they were to fight each other not ever really meeting

If he kept doing it it wouldnt have time to fight.

but it shocks me that you dont want batman to lose ....period...no way ...no how....batman always has a pla.....he beat superman ....he beat time its self ...all im trying to say is that batman can be beat we can sit here and talk about this for weeks at a end but i must say how shocked i am that you are not willing to admit that batman can lose any fight unless the odds are stacked aganst him

Not to sound rude but dont make assumptions about what I want.

I havent said a thing about what I want or would like.

Dont confuse my reporting about the character,how he has been written and his abilities with what I want or would like.

I personally hate that DC has pretty much made the "BatGod" unbeatable......but its how it is any my complaining about it isint going to change a thing.

wolverine was blown up by nitro to the bare bones and healed back to normal in about five minutes any one can find a reason to think why one would beat the other i just dont think we should base it on complete extremes of the chareter frank teri had wolverine catching bullets between his fingers
Shadowman wrote:So you're not trying to change the topic, you're just trying to change the topic. You know for someone who uses the word "logic" that much you sure do like to throw it out the window a lot.

Sure bud.

Like I said, I didnt try to change the topic.

In my post, I explained the type of set up I was talking about.

i get what you are saying but you are way too vauge with it at least give a situation

You didnt have to reply if you didnt want to.
A sonic weapon wouldn't make Wolverine pass out. Real-world sonic weapons DO exist; the sound causes the target's eardrums to break, causing severe pain.

I'm not talking about "real world" sonic weapons.

I'm talking about the type we have seen in comics and other sci/fi/ adventures fictions before.Such a weapon can knock out even Wolverine.Its been done before.

At that point there's no reason to have the weapon on anymore because the victim can't hear anything. Even if Wolverine's eardrums didn't break because of his healing factor, he's still not the kind of person to just lay down and take it; he's more likely to find the weapon, break it, then break the guy using it on him.

Sure, when he wakes up.

compare it to a fighter that gets rocked he is still capable of fighting i understand were not talking about the real world but lets put at least some form of reallity in this
At which point he's already lost that first fight.

please i think that this is the third time ive asked you to please give us a senario in how bats would win it would make this out to be a better conversation than it is right now with us useing no he cant yes he can thats getting old please give us some thing to work with..........btw.....you know dam well what i mean with the tech specs so get on it you bastard :lol:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:40 pm

That's just how I feel about this "discussion"

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:44 pm

Shadowman wrote:Yes you are. You're talking about a completely different setup because you don't like the setup this thread is here for. That is called, say it with me now: CHANGING THE TOPIC.

Again, no I'm not.

I said I didnt see the point of a "till the death" conversation because it posed no potential of a conversation or debate.

I then offered up a different senerio, which is not uncommon on these boards.

Yes, the type of setup that has nothing to do with the fight at hand.

problem being that there was NO fight in hand.

There's only ONE fight. And if Batman doesn't find a way to decapitate Wolverine while he's knocked out, then Wolverine will wake up and decapitate him.

Again, there is no fight in that conversation.

Your better off debating if water will boil under the right amount of heat.

If you want to continue having a "non debate" be my guest.

But theres no point to it.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:01 pm

victoryconvoy wrote:im sorry it really does

Explain to me how it matters?

Is it not a win for the coach of a team when his plans for the team help them win the game??

Or are you trying to suggest that Batman can come up with the plan, but he cant see therm thru??

it is relavant because his plan back fired on him

The JLA went down, as planned.

Thats not a back fire.

The only reason it worked againest him is because he didnt want to use it at the time.

But that doesnt matter, what does is that the plan was a success.

which is why it is relavent he had it stolen from him and had a very evil bad guy use it aganst him

So what.

The plan still worked.

Thats a credit to Batmans abilities.

did you think it was a little funny??

Not the first time I read it.

Sorry.

no joke aside the same really could be said for batman

That true.

Remember, I said Batman only real chance is if he had the knowlidge.

wolverine was blown up by nitro to the bare bones and healed back to normal in about five minutes any one can find a reason to think why one would beat the other i just dont think we should base it on complete extremes of the chareter frank teri had wolverine catching bullets between his fingers

This is exactly why I said a "death match" is a pointless conversation.

Logan pretty much cant die.

Better to have a conversation about the 2 having more of a match thats like a boxing fight.

compare it to a fighter that gets rocked he is still capable of fighting i understand were not talking about the real world but lets put at least some form of reallity in this

And how do you suggest we do that when were talking about a guy that can heal from just 1 blood cell and has unbreakable bones and claws???

Sorry bud, but realities is out the window on this one from the start.

victoryconvoy wrote:please i think that this is the third time ive asked you to please give us a senario in how bats would win it would make this out to be a better conversation than it is right now with us useing no he cant yes he can thats getting old please give us some thing to work with..........btw.....you know dam well what i mean with the tech specs so get on it you bastard

I've already addressed this request.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:08 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:Yes you are. You're talking about a completely different setup because you don't like the setup this thread is here for. That is called, say it with me now: CHANGING THE TOPIC.

Again, no I'm not.

I said I didnt see the point of a "till the death" conversation because it posed no potential of a conversation or debate.

I then offered up a different senerio, which is not uncommon on these boards.

So you changed the topic. You didn't like the topic at hand so you changed to a different one.

This isn't rocket science.