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I'll get on it! I definitely like the way Sky Lynx looks.

The only OS KO that I have is WeiJiang's MPP-10. He scales horribly with MPs and just about every figure I got -- but he looks great and feels good in my hands!

carytheone wrote:I'm not a fan of the whole OS thing except for where it makes the figure scale better, but I think I figured it out. Put on your tinfoil hat. I think the KO guys are OS'ing everything to make their figures only scale with their figures. That way you have to stay brand loyal to them

I though they OS things because its easier to reverse engineer. Since they dont have the actual molds, they have to replicate them and replicating is much easier if you blow it up. Like that you can tell how the mechanisms in the transformation work more easily and you dont have to be as minute.

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm not a fan of the whole OS thing except for where it makes the figure scale better, but I think I figured it out. Put on your tinfoil hat. I think the KO guys are OS'ing everything to make their figures only scale with their figures. That way you have to stay brand loyal to them

I though they OS things because its easier to reverse engineer. Since they dont have the actual molds, they have to replicate them and replicating is much easier if you blow it up. Like that you can tell how the mechanisms in the transformation work more easily and you dont have to be as minute.

I don't know guys, I think it maybe a legal loophole of some kind. But, who knows. I'm not sure China needs loopholes. I think these companies are some how getting a hold of the original CAD files. I have compared Big Rook to the original top to bottom, head to toe. He is an exact replica down to the very last detail. I think they get these CAD files and just, zwooooooop! Scale 'em up. Cut a new mold.

Edit: Every detail. Including Rook's loose hips.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm not a fan of the whole OS thing except for where it makes the figure scale better, but I think I figured it out. Put on your tinfoil hat. I think the KO guys are OS'ing everything to make their figures only scale with their figures. That way you have to stay brand loyal to them

I though they OS things because its easier to reverse engineer. Since they dont have the actual molds, they have to replicate them and replicating is much easier if you blow it up. Like that you can tell how the mechanisms in the transformation work more easily and you dont have to be as minute.

I don't know guys, I think it maybe a legal loophole of some kind. But, who knows. I'm not sure China needs loopholes. I think these companies are some how getting a hold of the original CAD files. I have compared Big Rook to the original top to bottom, head to toe. He is an exact replica down to the very last detail. I think they get these CAD files and just, zwooooooop! Scale 'em up. Cut a new mold.

Edit: Every detail. Including Rook's loose hips.

mmc and warbotron must sell their cad files when they are done.
theirs a lot of preadaking kos out there. and like 50 billion warbotron bruticus kos out there. literally

itscramtastic wrote:

carytheone wrote:...double down...

There, found it! And quoted!! So..that was in reference to buying multiples of something?

Not quite, I was saying that buying a KO, 3P or even Takara are the all the same as not buying Hasbro. No matter which other you buy, the retailers still sees an unpurchased figure on the shelf/peg. They are many shades of grey.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:I'm not a fan of the whole OS thing except for where it makes the figure scale better, but I think I figured it out. Put on your tinfoil hat. I think the KO guys are OS'ing everything to make their figures only scale with their figures. That way you have to stay brand loyal to them

I though they OS things because its easier to reverse engineer. Since they dont have the actual molds, they have to replicate them and replicating is much easier if you blow it up. Like that you can tell how the mechanisms in the transformation work more easily and you dont have to be as minute.

I don't know guys, I think it maybe a legal loophole of some kind. But, who knows. I'm not sure China needs loopholes. I think these companies are some how getting a hold of the original CAD files. I have compared Big Rook to the original top to bottom, head to toe. He is an exact replica down to the very last detail. I think they get these CAD files and just, zwooooooop! Scale 'em up. Cut a new mold.

Edit: Every detail. Including Rook's loose hips.

Yeah, it'd be just as easy/hard to reverse engineer at any size. The KO's are so perfect they have to be getting their hands on the CAD files. I don't think even 3D scans can be this good. I used to figure the different size was trying to avoid TM issues, but China has a different rule set then the US. I'm sticking to forcing brand loyalty. Like Bod said the OS MP10 doesn't scale with squat except OS KO MP figures. OS seems to be the norm in the land of KO.

Has any one seen the OS KO Ironhide? He's MP10 sized

I feel you Curly, on the "brand loyalty" idea.
But here's my question, in China, a country of 30 gatrilbillimillion people, who has space for a OSed Transformers collection? There's barely enough room for everyone to lay down to sleep!

carytheone wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

carytheone wrote:...double down...

There, found it! And quoted!! So..that was in reference to buying multiples of something?

Not quite, I was saying that buying a KO, 3P or even Takara are the all the same as not buying Hasbro. No matter which other you buy, the retailers still sees an unpurchased figure on the shelf/peg. They are many shades of grey.

Word. I hear you. If I buy the Takara MP of a figure and it then gets released in the U.S. via Hasbro and I don't buy it, same thing. Like with Apollyon! I bought him, not buying MP Megatron. +1 Zing.

Man, threads always explode when I don't pay attention

I completely forgot that the KO'ers OS'd the Leader AOE Prime. I'm still in the market for the Black knight version, but think I'll get the legit version. I don't really need him to be bigger. Damn pretty though.

OS CW'ers?! Neat!

As for the whole KO debate, I think we all contribute enough to the beast that they barely feel the sting of KO's. And if they really wanted to shut them down, they probably could. Or at least hurt them. And personally I only support KO's when it's a variant type that hasn't been officially produced (MP10U) or is the quality is better and the legit version is hideously expensive.

I know it was like 4 days ago, but that giant Prime is gorgeous! As is the giant Rook!

i also saw Iron Factory stuff. I really need to get one of those. My first 3P transformer someday will most likely be IF

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

Can't go Wrong with IF and if you wait long enough you can double dip with a KO of a 3P figure

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

Can't go Wrong with IF and if you wait long enough you can double dip with a KO of a 3P figure

I had to look this up.

And....

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

Picy is clicky.

Iron Factory looks incredible... if only I had the disposable income to pay for them. Most especially that Windblade; I love the heck out of her! If they made a Chromia and Nautica to go along with her all three would look perfect with Victorion

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

Picy is clicky.

nooo no no no no. Cannot afford to do that right now. Don't put the temptation there!

Oh D. You know I don't like to torment my good Seiberfriends.

Oh. Hi Kurona.

Cobotron wrote:Oh D. You know I don't like to torment my good Seiberfriends.

Oh. Hi Kurona.

Oh how you like to taunt me. But I don't like Arcee that much and I'm planning on using TFP Legion Arcee, so ha! Take that, tauntatron!

That said, is the figure any good? Just checked out the Nightbird version on Kapow - her look and character being right up my alley - and the price point is not something my wallet would hate me for.

If they made a IF Nautica, I would buy her. I love Nautica

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:If they made a IF Nautica, I would buy her. I love Nautica

Saaaame, she's wonderful and an amazing character

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:If they made a IF Nautica, I would buy her. I love Nautica

I need an IF Nautica, but I also need an MMC Nautica. Basically I need a Nautica that isn't the TR one. Also I need free shipping for my TFSource stack so I'm adding IF Arcee. You're partly to blame Cobs.

I've been thinking about it but then Thew had the IF haul and the Collectotron is ripe with Legends talk so I caved.

SureShot18 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:If they made a IF Nautica, I would buy her. I love Nautica

I need an IF Nautica, but I also need an MMC Nautica. Basically I need a Nautica that isn't the TR one. Also I need free shipping for my TFSource stack so I'm adding IF Arcee. You're partly to blame Cobs.

I've been thinking about it but then Thew had the IF haul and the Collectotron is ripe with Legends talk so I caved.

When Artfire comes in stock, I have Sky shadow, Brawn, and roadburn waiting for the free shipping

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

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Picy is clicky.

HA, I'd love to clicky the picy then picky uppy and add to my looty then shaky my booty

I'm simultaneously happy and sad to have skipped the whole Legends sized 3P scene

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:If they made a IF Nautica, I would buy her. I love Nautica

Saaaame, she's wonderful and an amazing character

Same!! I bet if there's ever a 3P version, it may be more IDW accurate....but her Chaos-incarnation will do!

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

Picy is clicky.

Has it been KO'd? Any other good KO 3ps out there that arent OS? Really loved Walthertron.

Also, I clicked and this would easily go on one of my worst alt mode lists if it was an official toy



They're not even trying.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:My first 3P transformer someday...

I read 3P encounter and my mind began to drift

Picy is clicky.

Has it been KO'd? Any other good KO 3ps out there that arent OS? Really loved Walthertron.

Also, I clicked and this would easily go on one of my worst alt mode lists if it was an official toy



They're not even trying.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure that's what he transformed into in his miniseries.