The Energon Pub

Colored images have helped him look so good. He is very sharp. I am excited!

I'm struggling...FOMO is getting to me...and I don't even know who this Star Saber fella is.

I also feel like I only want to back this if all three tiers are met...get the most for my money, you know?

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I'm struggling...FOMO is getting to me...and I don't even know who this Star Saber fella is.

I also feel like I only want to back this if all three tiers are met...get the most for my money, you know?

Back it NOW.
Regardless if you keep him or sell him, you WILL get the most of your money regardless.

Because if you miss out...
Go to eBay and Prepare for trouble... and make it double... or triple... or quadruple.

So with exactly 6 days and 3 hours left we are at 13K. So close, and yet so far for some of those stretch goals. Hopefully Hasbro doesn't wait until the last minute to count the votes for TT Mall.

o.supreme wrote:So with exactly 6 days and 3 hours left we are at 13K. So close, and yet so far for some of those stretch goals. Hopefully Hasbro doesn't wait until the last minute to count the votes for TT Mall.

They would be wise to start bumping it soon with confirmed orders, if for no other reason than to lure those on the fence without the stretch goals. Waiting for October 9th or 10th may be too late.

Just hit 13K, less than a thousand to go until the cannon is unlocked. If international orders haven’t been factored in yet, it should at least make it to there I’d think.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I'm struggling...FOMO is getting to me...and I don't even know who this Star Saber fella is.

I also feel like I only want to back this if all three tiers are met...get the most for my money, you know?

I’d definitely at least get a set to at least hold and let the value go up. There has yet to have been a HasLab release of anything whose value was less than what it was when it was first offered up.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I'm struggling...FOMO is getting to me...and I don't even know who this Star Saber fella is.

Victory is a fun series. Definitely worth watching.

Mindmaster wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:I'm struggling...FOMO is getting to me...and I don't even know who this Star Saber fella is.

I also feel like I only want to back this if all three tiers are met...get the most for my money, you know?

I’d definitely at least get a set to at least hold and let the value go up. There has yet to have been a HasLab release of anything whose value was less than what it was when it was first offered up.

I know what you guys are doing...trying to get more backers for more tiers...and it worked...I just ordered two...

A couple days ago, I'd have said it's unlikely to get to the stand, letalone shield, but seeing as we're almost in cannon territory with minimal 3rd party orders and just UK, US, and Canada, areas where Star Saber wasn't even initially released, I'd say we might actually get them all. I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst

Sentinel_Primal wrote:A couple days ago, I'd have said it's unlikely to get to the stand, letalone shield, but seeing as we're almost in cannon territory with minimal 3rd party orders and just UK, US, and Canada, areas where Star Saber wasn't even initially released, I'd say we might actually get them all. I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst

Based on how ludicrous the price of the G1 originals are, even the KO, and especially the Robo Masters versions, I'm pretty sure Japan will eat it up and contribute to a HUGE number of orders.

I remember tracking Galactus and it went up really fast in the last few days. I think it was going to 1-2000 per day at the end, so totally hoping for the same here. Do we know for a fact that the numbers don't reflect all the international orders?

nycPrime wrote:I remember tracking Galactus and it went up really fast in the last few days. I think it was going to 1-2000 per day at the end, so totally hoping for the same here. Do we know for a fact that the numbers don't reflect all the international orders?

Know for a fact? No.
There was a one time jump of 1-2 thousand that had to be some 3rd party retailers and this was around the time TF Source closed their pre-orders. Some of that jump might have been international, but we really don't know.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:A couple days ago, I'd have said it's unlikely to get to the stand, letalone shield, but seeing as we're almost in cannon territory with minimal 3rd party orders and just UK, US, and Canada, areas where Star Saber wasn't even initially released, I'd say we might actually get them all. I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst

Those orders aren't even counted in the ones you see on the Victory Saber Haslab page.

Great new video with the developer




He clarifies that SS is Leader Class, and Victory Leo is Voyager class, which makes sense. I also love the backstory as Star Sabers design was influenced by Diaclone, as well as Super Robots (not Gundam or *Real Robots* as many fans assume)

o.supreme wrote:Great new video with the developer




He clarifies that SS is Leader Class, and Victory Leo is Voyager class, which makes sense. I also love the backstory as Star Sabers design was influenced by Diaclone, as well as Super Robots (not Gundam or *Real Robots* as many fans assume)

That's not exactly what he said. He said he was originally being designed with military robots and Diaclone in mind, but then was altered to be more like a super robot. But really, when you compare the two designs the only difference is they removed a few weapons from his arms and smoothed out some of the details, the overall shape is still there so people aren't entirely wrong to say he resembles a Gundam, because he definitely still does, even more so than the original design.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Great new video with the developer




He clarifies that SS is Leader Class, and Victory Leo is Voyager class, which makes sense. I also love the backstory as Star Sabers design was influenced by Diaclone, as well as Super Robots (not Gundam or *Real Robots* as many fans assume)

That's not exactly what he said. He said he was originally being designed with military robots and Diaclone in mind, but then was altered to be more like a super robot. But really, when you compare the two designs the only difference is they removed a few weapons from his arms and smoothed out some of the details, the overall shape is still there so people aren't entirely wrong to say he resembles a Gundam, because he definitely still does, even more so than the original design.

Emerje

Ya, he specifically states "traditional Japanese super robot". Which for most people is Gundam. HOWEVER! Gundam wasn't supposed to look like it did in the begining. Like Star Saber it was supposed to be more drab and militaristic, but was changed around to be what we think of a when you say Gundam to have a better appeal for selling toys, with inspiration taken from many other super robots at the time. Meaning, It looks Gundam-esque because just like Gundam before it, it was reworked to be more in line with what Japanese culture associates as traditional super robot.

Regardless, it works, before I even knew what Victory was, even before I read the novelisation of the o.g. Gundam which is what got me into Gundam at all, I saw pictures of this strange and elusive transformer, and it was so striking I immediately wanted one. Eventually getting to watch Victory just sealed the deal as him bing one of my holy grails. He's what Rodimus Prime SHOULD have been. And while I have the MP version that will never be complete without Victory Leo, and a neat bootleg, this is the figure I have been wanting Hasbro to do for years. I've never been so happy to loose a huge was of cash. Next year can't come fast enough. Me want in me grubby little paws NAO

Also love that the same designer behind the MP Star Saber is behind this one. While not perfect, MP SS was ahead of it's time, with hidden butterfly joints, ab crunch and even little waist tilt from side to side.

Immortal Starscream wrote:Ya, he specifically states "traditional Japanese super robot". Which for most people is Gundam.

Did you read my post above?

Gundam is part of a whole anime sub genre called "Real Robots" which includes franchises such as Macross, Votoms etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha_ani ... Real_robot

"Super Robots" are a different sub genre altogether that goes all the way back to the first Tetsujin 28 (Gigantor) and are Robots, usually piloted, with Super Powers and are considered to be super heroes in their own right. This is where Mazinger Z, Getter Robo and even Go Lion (Voltron) come from. at 1:51 in the video "Super Robot" is in caps and quotes, so he is very specifically referring to this subgenre of anime, not as a generic term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha_ani ... uper_robot

The design started out more militaristic, then became more more superhero like stated at 2:31, thus making SS look even less like a "realistic" Robot or Gundam by comparison.

I can definitely see the Super hero/ Super Robot aspect of Star Saber.

But then again. Some other people mistake Transformers and Gundam so I guess it's ok.

It looks like the cannon and blast effects should be a lock, pun not intended. So when this thing clears they'll be shipping it out within a week or two, right?

Oh, no put the sledgehammers down!!!!!

o.supreme wrote:

Immortal Starscream wrote:Ya, he specifically states "traditional Japanese super robot". Which for most people is Gundam.

Did you read my post above?

Gundam is part of a whole anime sub genre called "Real Robots" which includes franchises such as Macross, Votoms etc..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha_ani ... Real_robot

"Super Robots" are a different sub genre altogether that goes all the way back to the first Tetsujin 28 (Gigantor) and are Robots, usually piloted, with Super Powers and are considered to be super heroes in their own right. This is where Mazinger Z, Getter Robo and even Go Lion (Voltron) come from. at 1:51 in the video "Super Robot" is in caps and quotes, so he is very specifically referring to this subgenre of anime, not as a generic term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha_ani ... uper_robot

The design started out more militaristic, then became more more superhero like stated at 2:31, thus making SS look even less like a "realistic" Robot or Gundam by comparison.

I can definitely see the Super hero/ Super Robot aspect of Star Saber.

But then again. Some other people mistake Transformers and Gundam so I guess it's ok.

Guessing you didn't read all of mine. Probably made it too long winded and poorly worded. Was commenting that Gundam went through a similar redesign to star saber, and that gundam, like star saber, was re-designed to look more like the traditional super hero robots of the time in the hope they could merchandise it. Gundam looks like Gundam for the same reason that star saber looks like star saber. But Gundam has become so iconic that some people seeing any similarities will immediately associate it with Gundam. Kind of like how most people I know call bandages "Band-Aids" even though band-aid is just one brand of bandages. Or how I used to think when I was a kid that any robot with a face mask look to them was an obvious rip off of Optimus Prime.

Which is why I picked up Gundam for the first time. I thought the Gundam on the cover, rx-78 looked like a white and blue Optimus prime and wanted to read the book

Edit: I should also mention my mom, because to her any to robots of any kind were called Go-bots.

as of this morning, Victory Saber is at 14,549 backers. The most important unlock imho, the cannon, is acquired.

Yeah looks like there was a bump of a little over 1000 sometime during the night. It is nice that this first tier is now achieved. We don't know if these are from 3rd party retailers or TT though (or hopefully not both... ).

With 5 1/2 days left, we shall see what happens. Again, I'm not sure if any other Haslab that successfully funded hasn't achieved all it's stretch goals, but we shall see. I dont believe this myself, but I'm already seeing the conspiracy theorists online saying that Hasbro might lowball the actual orders so they don't have to make the stand or shield/micromasters.

o.supreme wrote:Yeah looks like there was a bump of a little over 1000 sometime during the night. It is nice that this first tier is now achieved. We don't know if these are from 3rd party retailers or TT though (or hopefully not both... ).

With 5 1/2 days left, we shall see what happens. Again, I'm not sure if any other Haslab that successfully funded hasn't achieved all it's stretch goals, but we shall see. I dont believe this myself, but I'm already seeing the conspiracy theorists online saying that Hasbro might lowball the actual orders so they don't have to make the stand or shield/micromasters.

Hero quest didn't achieve its final stretch goal. however they were throwing stretch goals at that one on the fly because of how insanely good it was doing. Kept skyrocketing.

BUT... I recently got an email on that one that basically said for all mythic tier backers, screw it your getting that last stretch goal anyway.

I also think Unicron had more things planned for stretch goals, but they kinda had to fudge things to make that one go through I think, so they didn't bother.

o.supreme wrote:Yeah looks like there was a bump of a little over 1000 sometime during the night. It is nice that this first tier is now achieved. We don't know if these are from 3rd party retailers or TT though (or hopefully not both... ).

With 5 1/2 days left, we shall see what happens. Again, I'm not sure if any other Haslab that successfully funded hasn't achieved all it's stretch goals, but we shall see. I dont believe this myself, but I'm already seeing the conspiracy theorists online saying that Hasbro might lowball the actual orders so they don't have to make the stand or shield/micromasters.

No it was a bump mid-morning. It was at 13,200 (or just a bit over) when I checked this morning.

I kind of want to back this just so it hits it's goals. No real attachment to the character, but it seems cool enough. I think these HasLab crowdfunds are my only hope for ever getting Majin Zarak. They are running out of Titan Class bots. Everyone keeps saying "too obscure," but HasTak have done much more obscure bots. Too much of a financial gamble is more like it. But that's why HasLab could work for it. Maybe, just maybe?