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Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, some sort of Mary Sue

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Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, some sort of Mary Sue

Postby Nico » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:00 pm

I mean...c'mon! :grin:

1)He din't appear in ANY episode before the Movie
2)He's the main caracter while Prime should have been it
3)He's the "Chosen One" but never did anything really heroic to deserve that
4)When he's about to die, he use the Matrix and become Rodimus Prime
5)He beat Galvatron, who is basically a super-powered-up Megatron (And Megatron is damn strong!)
6)He use the power of the Matrix to kill a PLANET-SIZED ROBOT WHO HAPPEN TO BE A GOD!
7)That little nobody become the Autobot Leader!

Ok, im done!
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Postby Rodimus_Lantern » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:22 pm

Somebody beating a dead horse?

I think so.
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Re: Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, some sort of Mary Sue

Postby Wheeljack35 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:30 pm

Nico wrote:I mean...c'mon! :grin:

1)He din't appear in ANY episode before the Movie
2)He's the main caracter while Prime should have been it
3)He's the "Chosen One" but never did anything really heroic to deserve that
4)When he's about to die, he use the Matrix and become Rodimus Prime
5)He beat Galvatron, who is basically a super-powered-up Megatron (And Megatron is damn strong!)
6)He use the power of the Matrix to kill a PLANET-SIZED ROBOT WHO HAPPEN TO BE A GOD!
7)That little nobody become the Autobot Leader!

Ok, im done!


There are some good points here

Hot Rod should of been in some episodes before the movie
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Postby Megatron Wolf » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:07 pm

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The hole point of the movie was to introduce the new toy line and kill off the old. Thats why Rod, Kup, Springer, Magnus, and the others werent in the show befor the movie. It would've helped to see them in a few shows befor the movie but it didnt happen.
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Postby Nico » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:10 pm

Yeah...i know but still...
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:12 pm

Megatron_Wolf wrote:The hole point of the movie was to introduce the new toy line and kill off the old. Thats why Rod, Kup, Springer, Magnus, and the others werent in the show befor the movie.


Well at the time I really hated what was going on and missed the true G1 characters

I consider anything after the movie as G1 part 2
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Postby Basketball Jones » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:30 pm

G1.5, so to speak.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:21 am

Basketball Jones wrote:G1.5, so to speak.


I never thought of it that way but that works
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Postby Predaprince » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:54 am

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Basketball Jones wrote:G1.5, so to speak.


I just say post-movie G1.

I'm not going to use G1.5 because 1.5 usually, as in computers, states that it is better than 1.
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Postby Fang Wolf » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:57 am

Why the Rody hate? He was the new leader because Prime had outlived his usefulness to Hasbro, heck, with all the emo heroes of today, I think he should be back, as he was a pioneer in the field of styreotypical cut myself emo heroes.
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:11 pm

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Re: Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, some sort of Mary Sue

Postby Loki120 » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:11 pm

Wheeljack35 wrote:
Nico wrote:I mean...c'mon! :grin:

1)He din't appear in ANY episode before the Movie
2)He's the main caracter while Prime should have been it
3)He's the "Chosen One" but never did anything really heroic to deserve that
4)When he's about to die, he use the Matrix and become Rodimus Prime
5)He beat Galvatron, who is basically a super-powered-up Megatron (And Megatron is damn strong!)
6)He use the power of the Matrix to kill a PLANET-SIZED ROBOT WHO HAPPEN TO BE A GOD!
7)That little nobody become the Autobot Leader!

Ok, im done!


There are some good points here

Hot Rod should of been in some episodes before the movie


Yeah, well there was the whole stumbling block of not having been created yet. That would have been a nice trick.
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Postby SeekerInAFakeMoustache » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:00 pm

Okay, this is starting to get old. Every time I try to post more than a few sentences, I lose it. I’ve lost three posts for every one I’ve made these past few weeks. I am not normally a complainer, but this is extremely frustrating. So, again, here is the Cliff’s Notes of my long, thought-out post that just vanished into the Internet ether:

Nico wrote:1)He din't appear in ANY episode before the Movie


Half the cast of the second season was never alluded to in the first. Even prominently-featured characters just appeared out of nowhere. Starscream never mentioned Skyfire. The Constructicons never mentioned Omega Supreme (heck, they’d been built on Earth). Optimus Prime never mentioned Elita-1.

3)He's the "Chosen One" but never did anything really heroic to deserve that


That Rodimus “never did anything heroic” is perhaps the best argument AGAINST his being a Marty Stu. It’s a defining trait of Stus that they are perfect, or that their flaws are “cute” and never actually get them or anybody else hurt. If Hot Rod were a Marty Stu, he would have saved Optimus Prime, not wound up a hostage. He wouldn’t have almost gotten himself and Kup killed on Junk. He wouldn’t have needed so much help from the others.

Nico wrote:2)He's the main caracter while Prime should have been it
4)When he's about to die, he use the Matrix and become Rodimus Prime


It was a stupid idea to kill off Optimus Prime and I don’t think you’ll find anybody saying otherwise (even people who don’t like him would have to agree it was an act of narrative desperation). But Hot Rod is not a Marty Stu just because he got Optimus’s job. If he’d gotten Optimus’s job and exceeded him at it, that would be another story, but the two Primes were rarely compared at all, and when they were Optimus always came out the better.

Nico wrote:5)He beat Galvatron, who is basically a super-powered-up Megatron (And Megatron is damn strong!)
6)He use the power of the Matrix to kill a PLANET-SIZED ROBOT WHO HAPPEN TO BE A GOD!


Galvatron was fighting both Rodimus and Unicron, and was already starting to lose his mind; basically, Roddy had an advantage. And it was the power of the Matrix that defeated Unicron; again, if the power had actually come from Rodimus, I’d feel differently, but he just used a weapon any Prime could have used.

The new cast was not the problem. The artless removal of the old cast was the problem. As a character, I like Hot Rod quite a bit.
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