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Islam must be stopped.

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Islam must be stopped.

Postby Professor Smooth » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:16 am

I do a lot of complaining about Christianity, but let's be realistic, with a few exceptions, most modern day Christians aren't really a threat to anybody. Yeah, it sucks that the Christian in the white house vetoes government funding for stem-cell research, and I'm sure that marriage-minded homosexuals could do without the Christian Morality Police beating down their door. At least the Jehova's Witness knocks ON your door, not down it.

Islam, and those that practice it, are a very real threat to the safety, security, and very lives of everyone in the world. While Christians, it seems, are content to use their religion to justify their own bigotries (ewww, men having sex! That's gross...er, the Bible says it), Islam not only allows and suggests, but DEMANDS violence be carried out.

9/11. There is NO WAY this could have happened without Islam. There is just no way. This happened because they believed (because it was written in their holy book) that they would be rewarded for murdering thousands of people.

Look at what they do to women. ALL women. Women get the shaft in the Christian and Jewish holy books too, but not anywhere NEAR to the extent that Islam does. In Islam, women aren't treated like animals, they're treated like VERMIN.

And if I hear one more person open their yap about how we should "tolerate their religious views" I am going to really lose it. Have any of these people actually looked at what these religious views ARE? Those views say that you should DIE. How can you be expected to tolerate the views that you, your family, and damn near everyone you've ever met are to be killed by Muslims? I'm not making this crap up, people!

Yeah, Islam will be a religion of peace...AFTER EVERY SINGLE NON MUSLIM has been KILLED. These aren't the "radical fundamentalist muslims," these are just the ones who've READ THE DAMNED BOOK.

Now some of you might say "I know a Muslim and he's a good friend of mine." He's doing it wrong. He's not a real Muslim. Just like people who claim to be Christians who don't go to church and have never read a version of the Bible are not real Christians.

Now, what am I suggesting? Am I suggesting that Islam be made illegal? That we find people of this "faith" and attack them? Of course not! That would be mean and just plain futile. But I think that people should know the facts about this religion, including those people who claim to practice it. I think that "The Media" needs to pull its head out of its ass and actually ask the Islamic Apologists who show up on TV after a member of Islam blows something up just where the Quaran (or Koran) says that this kind of thing is forbidden (or even frowned upon) by the book.

How are you tolerate a view that your family should be murdered?
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Postby Nightracer GT » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:31 am

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You are over-reacting.

Honor killings pre-date Islam. So does the mistreatment of women in the middle east.


And don't point to any Koran passages that advocate it. They are products of a pre-existing culture. They can and are easily disregarded by many Muslims in the western world.


Blaming Islam for 9-11 is like blaming airplanes for 9-11. Hell, why not stop there? Let's blame the descendants of the designers of the twin towers themselves.

And here's a funny one: How do you know it wouldn't have happened without Islam? Jihad does not mean Holy War. It means Struggle. Mohammed did indeed say "paradise is under the shadow of swords." But this is the full quote:

"Do not look for a fight with the enemy. Beg God for peace and security. But if you do end up facing the enemy, then show endurance and remember that Paradise is under the shadow of the swords."


Should we stop Christianity because of Jesus Camps? Should we blame it for the Holocaust because the Vatican looked the other way? Hell, let's blame it for the Crusades too.


Nope. Wrong answer, McFly. The problem with religion is not religion. The problem with religion is humans. Humans are over-reactive and misuse their ideals to hurt and villify other humans. This thread is direct proof of that.
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Postby Professor Smooth » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:53 am

Dark Zarak wrote: You are over-reacting.

Honor killings pre-date Islam. So does the mistreatment of women in the middle east.


I see. So because they pre-date Islam, I should not call Islam on its SPECIFICALLY CALLING FOR IT? Is that what you're saying. I don't buy that. Honor killing and the mistreatment of woman may not have originated with Islam, but it's sure as hell condoned by Islam. Not, I'll grant you, in the United States, but in the Middle East it's a serious (and common) problem.

Dark Zarak wrote:
And don't point to any Koran passages that advocate it. They are products of a pre-existing culture. They can and are easily disregarded by many Muslims in the western world.


Don't point to any of the passages in the Muslim holy book calling for YOU and I to be murdered? This book is treated as LAW in parts of the world. It's treated as the LITERAL word of GOD. How can you expect any sane person to ignore that?

Dark Zarak wrote:
Blaming Islam for 9-11 is like blaming airplanes for 9-11. Hell, why not stop there? Let's blame the descendants of the designers of the twin towers themselves.


I can totally see where you're coming from on this one. Really. It's COMPLETELY reasonable to think that people would murder 3,000 people FOR THE GLORY OF AIRPLANES. These people killed 3,000 innocent people DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION. This isn't speculation. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID. They said "We are doing this for the glory of Allah." As soon as somebody brings down an office building "for the glory of Boeing," maybe you'll have a case.

Dark Zarak wrote:
And here's a funny one: How do you know it wouldn't have happened without Islam? Jihad does not mean Holy War. It means Struggle. Mohammed did indeed say "paradise is under the shadow of swords." But this is the full quote:

"Do not look for a fight with the enemy. Beg God for peace and security. But if you do end up facing the enemy, then show endurance and remember that Paradise is under the shadow of the swords."


Again, this isn't a tough call to make. These people, these murdering bastards, killed 3,000 people because they FULL BELIEVED it's what their God wanted them to do. He did it in accordance with Muslim Law. This has been admitted to by those who helped plan the vicious attack.

Dark Zarak wrote:
Should we stop Christianity because of Jesus Camps? Should we blame it for the Holocaust because the Vatican looked the other way? Hell, let's blame it for the Crusades too.


Personally, I don't think that Christians should be allowed to brainwash young children, but at least they're not blowing themselves up to kill people who believe in a different imaginary deity. The Nazis are to blame for the Holocaust, obviously. Christians DO bear responsibility for the Crusades. However, as that was centuries ago, and modern Christians tend to be a bit more subtle (excluding parts of Ireland, it seems), it's not an immediate threat to the lives of everyone else.

Dark Zarak wrote:
Nope. Wrong answer, McFly. The problem with religion is not religion. The problem with religion is humans. Humans are over-reactive and misuse their ideals to hurt and villify other humans. This thread is direct proof of that.


Muslims who fly jets into buildings, treat women like vermin, and advocate the murder of authors are not OVER-REACTING. They are FOLLOWING WHAT THE BOOK SAYS. Those who don't are the ones "perverting" Islam.
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Postby DREWCIFER » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:18 am

Hate to burst your bubble and point out the fact that A: you're wrong, and B: You're being a racist.

Islam is not the problem. Fanatics are the problem.

There are Islam Fanatics like there are Christian fanatics.

A Baptist sniper who shoots doctors leaving an abortion clinic are the same as a suicide bomber. They take only a limited view of a specific passage and justify murder with it.

Nowhere does the Koran advocate murder of civilians.

You really need to do some research and not start hate threads like this. It makes you look very simpleminded and racist.

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Postby Professor Smooth » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:30 am

DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote: Hate to burst your bubble and point out the fact that A: you're wrong, and B: You're being a racist.


A: Prove it.
B: Islam is not a race. It is a religion.

DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:Islam is not the problem. Fanatics are the problem.


Do you know what a fanatic is? It's somebody who follows what the book says, and the book says an AWFUL lot of things.

DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:There are Islam Fanatics like there are Christian fanatics.


What are you trying to prove here? That Christian dogma is as bad as Islamic dogma? I wouldn't go that far, but both can be pretty damned cruel.

DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:A Baptist sniper who shoots doctors leaving an abortion clinic are the same as a suicide bomber. They take only a limited view of a specific passage and justify murder with it.


Yep, both are terrible, and both are supported by passages from The Bible and The Koran, respectively. They didn't just make this stuff up. It's actually written in there.

DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:Nowhere does the Koran advocate murder of civilians.



Oh no? Here are a couple of choice passages from the Koran. I've cited chapter and verse, so you're free to check them out yourself.

1. Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

2. Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

3. A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

4. Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

5. "Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81

6. If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

7. Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

8. For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

9. For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

10. "And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire." (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119

11. Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

12. The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

13. Allah is severe punishment! 2:165-6

14. They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

15. Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

16. How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

17. "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

18. Believers must retaliate. Those who transgress will have a painful doom. 2:178

19. Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

20. "Guard us from the doom of Fire." 2:201

21. Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206

22. War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

23. Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

24. Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire. 2:221

25. Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

26. "Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275

27. Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

28. Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

29. Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

30. "Guard us from the punishment of Fire." 3:16

31. Non-muslims will be punished by Allah for their nonbelief. 3:19

32. Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

33. "They [Christians and Jews] say: The Fire will not touch us save for a certain number of days. That which they used to invent hath deceived them regarding their religion." (The Fire will burn them forever.) 3:24

34. Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

35. All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

36. Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

37. Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

38. "Ye were upon the brink of an abyss of fire, and He did save you from it." 3:103

39. Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

40. Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

41. The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

42. We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151

43. "Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?"
Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162

44. Theirs will be an awful doom. 3:176

45. Disbelievers do not harm Allah, but will have a painful doom. 3:177

46. Disbelievers will have a shameful doom. 3:178

47. Whoso is removed from the Fire and is made to enter paradise, he indeed is triumphant." (The rest will burn forever in the Fire.) 3:185

48. Those who brag about doing good will go to hell. 3:188

49. "Preserve us from the doom of Fire." 3:191

50. "Our Lord! Whom Thou causest to enter the Fire: him indeed Thou hast confounded. For evil-doers there will be no helpers." 3:192

51. Disbelievers will go to Hell. 3:196

52. Don't steal from orphans (or Allah will burn you forever in hell). 4:10

53. Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will be burnt with fire and suffer a painful doom. 4:14

54. For the disbelievers and those who make a last-minute conversion, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:18

55. "We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah." 4:30

56. For disbelievers, We prepare a shameful doom. 4:37

57. Hell is sufficient for their burning. 4:55

58. Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56

59. Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

60. Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

61. Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

62. If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

63. Believers who kill believers will face the awful doom of hell. 4:93

64. "Their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end." 4:97

65. Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115

66. Allah will lead them astray and they will go to hell. 4:119-121

67. Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah. 4:137

68. For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138

69. Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140

70. The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145

71. You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don't are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151

72. For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

73. God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 4:168-169

74. If you don't do good works, Allah will punish you with a painful doom. 4:173

75. Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

76. Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10

77. "The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers." 5:29

78. Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

79. Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36

80. Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37

81. Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

82. Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41

83. Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. Non-muslims are wrong doers. 5:45

84. Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

85. Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

86. Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

87. Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

88. Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94

89. Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5

90. "See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!" 6:11

91. Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6

92. Disbelievers will say when they see the Fire that they would have believed if they had known the truth. But they are all liars. 6:27-28

93. Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49

94. Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

95. When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93

96. Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113

97. Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125

98. Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128

99. Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah's will. 6:137

100. The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awared an evil doom. 6:157

101. How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 7:4-5

102. Allah banishes Iblis and promises to fill hell with those who are mislead by him. 7:18

103. Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36

104. Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38

105. "Taste the doom for what ye used to earn." 7:39

106. Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41

107. Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. "So how's it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?" 7:44

108. Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47

109. Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: "Pour water on us." But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50

110. Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64

111. Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71

112. "We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers." 7:72

113. Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78

114. Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
7:83-84

115. "So the earthquake seized them."
Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91

116. "How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?"
Shu'eyb tells the Allah's victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93

117. "Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not."
Unbelievers are never safe from Allah's wrath. 7:95-99

118. "We straitened Pharaoh's folk with famine."
Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh. 7:130

119. "So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood - a succession of clear signs." 7:133

120. "We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations." 7:136

121. Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152

122. "But those of them who ... changed the word ... We sent down upon them wrath from heaven." 7:162

123. "Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?" 7:164

124. "When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We ... visited [them] with dreadful punishment." 7:165

125. Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167

126. Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn't see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179

127. Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12

128. Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14

129. When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

130. Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

131. "Rain down stones on us or bring on us some painful doom!" 8:32

132. Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35

133. Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36

134. "The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell." 8:37

135. The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: "Taste the punishment of burning!" 8:50

136. The worst beasts in Allah's sight are the disbelievers. 8:55

137. Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

138. Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you." 8:68

139. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3

140. Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

141. Don't let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17

142. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34

143. Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35

144. If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

145. Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49

146. "Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands." 9:52

147. Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60

148. Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63

149. Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68

150. Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

151. Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74

152. "Theirs will be a painful doom." 9:79

153. Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83

154. For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90

155. Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won't be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95

156. The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98

157. "We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom." 9:101

158. Those that ignore Allah will be thown into the fire of hell. 9:109

159. Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

160. Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

161. Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

162. Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4

163. Those who neglect Allah's revelations will make their home in the Fire. 10:7-8

164. Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13

165. "Such are rightful owners of the Fire." 10:27

166. On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45

167. "His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night." 10:50

168. The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54

169. Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70

170. Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73

171. Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88

172. If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will "see the painful doom." 10:95-97

173. "The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them." 11:8

174. Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39

175. Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48

176. "Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled." 11:76

177. Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83

178. Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day." 11:84

179. "Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him." 11:93

180. "He ... will lead them to the Fire for watering-place." 11:98

181. "The doom of the Hereafter" 11:103

182. Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7

183. "Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you." 11:113

184. Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119

185. "What shall be his reward, who wisheth evil to thy folk, save prison or a painful doom?" 12:25

186. Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5

187. Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. 13:18

188. Disbelievers will be tormented in this life, and suffer even more pain in the Hereafter. 13:33-34

189. The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

190. "When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom." 13:41

191. Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2

192. Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17

193. There is no escape from Allah's doom. 14:21

194. "Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom." 14:22

195. Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29

196. "They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey's end will be the Fire." 14:30

197. "Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them." 14:44

198. Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50

199. Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43

200. Allah's doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50

201. Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. "And the doom came on them whence they knew not." 16:26

202. Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29

203. Allah "will cause the earth to swallow" those who plan ill-deeds. the doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45

204. Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned." 16:62

205. "Theirs will be a painful doom." 16:63

206. "The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye." 16:77

207. "When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them." 16:85

208. Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88

209. Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94

210. Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104

211. Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah's wrath is upon them. 16:106

212. Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7

213. Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8

214. Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10

215. Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16

216. How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17

217. Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18

218. "Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell." 17:39

219. "Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned." 17:57

220. Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58

221. Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63

222. Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he'll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98

223. Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

224. Christians will cry out to Allah's "partners", but they won't hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

225. Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53

226. Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it's their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

227. There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58

228. Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59

229. On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100

230. Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102

231. The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105

232. Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah's revelations and messengers. 18:106

233. "Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day."
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

234. Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70

235. "How many a generation have We destroyed before them?"
Allah brags about destroying entire generations. 19:74

236. Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75

237. Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79

238. Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83

239. Allah will "drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd." 19:86

240. Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98

241. Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6

242. The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

243. Lo! it hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away." 20:48

244. "There [in hell] he will neither die nor live." 20:74

245. Those who do not believe Allah's revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127

246. Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128

247. Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6

248. "And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell." 21:29

249. Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40

250. "Fear the Lord ... and dread the Hour of doom." 21:49

251. Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77

252. The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99

253. When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:1-2

254. The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame. 22:3-4

255. Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and burning in the next. 22:9

256. Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15

257. "There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will." 22:18

258. Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

259. Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25

260. How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45

261. "They will bid thee hasten on the Doom." 22:47

262. Those who disregard Allah's revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51

263. "Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day." 22:55

264. Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57

265. Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72

266. Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27

267. Those who don't believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77

268. "Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding." 23:103

269. When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104

270. Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

271. Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11

272. Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14

273. Those who traduce virtuous, believing women ... cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom." 24:23

274. Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57

275. Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13

276. Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19

277. It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27

278. "Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell" 25:34

279. Those who deny Muhammad's revelations will be destroyed. 25:36

280. Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37

281. "They [the non-muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road." 25:42

282. "The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish." 25:65

283. Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69

284. "Hell will appear plainly to the erring." 26:91

285. Allah killed those that ignored Hud's warnings. 26:124-139

286. Allah destroyed the people in Lot's town with a dreadful rain. 26:172-3

287. Many will not believe until they see the painful doom. 26:201

288. Those who believe in another god are doomed. 26:213

289. Allah leads those who do not believe in the Hereafter astray by making things work out OK in this life, so that he can torment them forever in the next. They will get the worst punishment and will be the greatest losers. 27:4-5

290. "Allah destroyed them and their people, every one." 27:51

291. Allah sent a dreadful rain on "those who stayed behind." 27:58

292. Whoever does something wrong will be thrown into the Fire. 27:90

293. "We made them (evil-doers) patterns that invite unto the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped." 28:40-42

294. Allah has completely destroyed many communities. 28:58

295. Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined? 28:62-64

296. Allah caused the earth to swallow Korah. 28:79-81

297. Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah have no hope of mercy. For such there is a painful doom. 29:23

298. "Ye have chosen only idols instead of Allah ... on the Day of Resurrection ye will deny each other and curse each other, and your abode will be the Fire, and ye will have no helpers." 29:25

299. "Bring Allah's doom upon us." 29:29

300. The doom of hell will come upon disbelievers suddenly, when they least expect it. 29:53-55

301. The worst thing you can do is tell a lie about Allah. Hell is the home of disbelievers. 29:68

302. Allah seals the heart of disbelievers. (And then he burns them in the Fire.) 30:59

303. Those who mislead others from Allah's way and mock Islam will have a painful doom. 31:6-7

304. Allah will give disbelievers a little comfort for a little while, and then he'll torment them forever with a heavy doom. 31:23-24

305. Allah will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together. 32:13

306. Allah: Taste the doom of immortality because of what ye used to do. 32:14

307. Those who used to deny the Fire will be tormented in it forever. 32:20

308. The worst thing you can do is to deny the revelations of Allah. 32:22

309. He hath prepared a painful doom for the unfaithful." 33:8

310. Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some, and enslaved others. 33:25-26

311. Those who oppose Islam will be slain with a fierce slaughter. 33:60-61

312. Allah has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming fire, wherein they will abide forever. 33:64-65

313. The disbelievers will be burned in the Fire with a double torment. 33:66-68

314. Those who challenge the revelations of Muhammad will have a painful doom. 34:5

315. Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will be tormented. 34:8

316. But some of the jinn Allah burned with flaming Fire. 34:12

317. "They are filled with remorse when they behold the doom; and We place carcans on the necks of those who disbelieved." 34:33

318. Those who strive against Allah's revelations will be brought to the doom. 34:38

319. Those who worshipped the jinn will taste the doom of the Fire. 34:41

320. Those who ignore Allah's messenger (Muhammed) will face a terrific doom. 34:46

321. Those who are cast into hell be terrified when they see that they have no escape. Then they will believe. But it will be too late. 34:51-52

322. The devil is real. He and his followers will burn forever in the Fire. 35:6

323. Those who disbelieve will have an awful doom. 35:7

324. "Those who plot iniquities ... will have an awful doom." 35:10

325. Disbelievers will burn forever in the fire of hell. Allah will keep them alive so that he can torture them forever. When they repent and ask for mercy, he will ignore them. 35:36-7

326. Allah has blinded the disbelievers so that they cannot see the truth. So it don't bother warning them. They will go to hell anyway. 36:8-10

327. Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 36:31

328. If Allah feels like it, he will drown everyone. 36:43

329. Allah will burn the disbelievers in hell. 36:63-4

330. Those who "did wrong" will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved). 37:22-23

331. Those who refuse to believe in Muhammad's revelations will face a painful doom. 37:31-38

332. "Then looketh he and seeth him in the depth of hell." 37:55

333. If you're not favored by Allah, you're doomed. 37:57

334. Those in hell must eat from a tree with the heads of devils, and then drink boiling water. After that they return to hell. 37:62-68

335. Allah drowned everyone except Noah and his family in the flood. 37:82

336. Allah tells Abraham in a dream to sacrifice his son. (But is the son Ishmael or Isaac?) 37:102

337. Only the "single-minded slaves of Allah" will be saved from the doom. 37:127-8

338. Allah killed everyone in Sodom except for Lot and his family. 37:136

339. No one is against Allah, except those who burn in hell. 37:162-3

340. Just wait a while and watch. The unbelievers will soon be destroyed in the doom. 37:176-9

341. Allah has destroyed many generations. 38:3

342. Those who doubt will soon taste Allah's doom. 38:8

343. Those who deny the messengers deserve doom. 38:14

344. Those who wander from the way of Allah will have an awful doom. 38:26

345. Those who disbelieve will burn in the Fire. 38:27

346. David slashed their legs and necks (with Allah's approval). 38:33

347. The transgressors will roast in the Fire and be forced to drink boiling liquids followed by ice cold drinks. 38:55-9

348. "Whoever did prepare this for us, oh, give him double portion of the Fire!" 38:61

349. Iblis asks Allah to let him hang around and mislead humans. Allah allows him to do so, and Iblis leads all humans to hell except for the single-minded slaves. Allah agrees, and plans to fill hell with Iblis and his followers. 38:79-85

350. Tell the disbelievers to enjoy themselves now, because later they will be owners of the Fire. 39:8

351. Those who disobey Allah should fear his doom. 39:13

352. The losers will be those who lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection. They will be surrounded by fire. 39:15-16

353. No one will be able to help those that Allah torments in the Fire. 39:19

354. "Wrong-doers" will be taunted while suffering in an "awful doom." 39:24

355. The doom will come upon those who deny what Allah has revealed. 39:25

356. Allah will make non-believers "taste humiliation in the life of the world" and " the doom of the Hereafter" which will be even worse. 39:26

357. The worst thing you can do is tell a lie against Allah. The home of disbelievers is hell. 39:32

358. "On whom there falleth everlasting doom." 39:40

359. "They ... will seek to ransom themselves ... from the awful doom." 39:47

360. Surrender to Allah before he sends the doom upon you suddenly. 39:54-55

361. Disbelievers had their chance to believe. They will all suffer in an endless doom. 39:56-59

362. Those who lie about Allah will be sent to hell and will have their faces blackened. 39:60

363. Those who disbelieve will be driven into hell. 39:71-72

364. Allah sent an awful punishment at the time of Noah. 40:5

365. Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 40:6

366. When the doom comes, the hearts of the doomed will choke in their throats, and no one will help them. 40:18

367. Those who ignore Allah's "clear proofs" will be seized and punished severely. 40:22

368. Disbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 41:41-42

369. The prodigals will be owners of the Fire. 40:43

370. "A dreadful doom encompassed Pharaoh's folk." 40:45

371. The doomed will be exposed to the Fire morning and evening. 40:46

372. While burning in the Fire, they argue about who is to blame. 40:47

373. Those in hell will beg to be relieved from the Fire's torment for just a day. But the prayer of a disbeliever is in vain. 40:49-50

374. Those who bicker about Allah's revelations are filled with pride. 40:56

375. Those who scorn Allah will go to hell. 40:60

376. Those who deny the revelations of Allah are perverted. 40:63

377. Those who deny the Scripture and Allah's messengers will be dragged through boiling water and thrust into the Fire. 40:70-72

378. Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in? 40:73

379. Thus does Allah send astray the disbelievers (in his guidance). 40:74

380. Those who scorn will go to hell. 40:76

381. When they see Allah's doom they will believe in Allah. But their faith will not save them. The disbelievers will be ruined. 40:84-85

382. Allah will make life miserable for those who deny his revelations and then he will torment them forever in the Hereafter. And they will not be helped. 41:15-16

383. "The doom of humiliation overtook them because of what they used to earn." 41:17

384. The enemies of Allah will be gathered into the Fire where their skin, ears, and eyes will testify against them. 41:19-20

385. Non-muslims will be tormented forever in the Fire. Allah will not have any mercy on them. 41:24

386. Allah will make those who disbelieve taste an awful doom. Their immortal home will be the Fire, since they denied Allah's revelations. 41:27-28

387. "Lo! those who distort Our revelations are not hid from Us. Is he who is hurled into the Fire better?" 41:40

388. Those who disbelieve will taste hard punishment. 41:50

389. While some lounge in the Garden, others will roast in the Flame. 42:7

390. Those who argue about Allah will have his wrath upon them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 42:16

391. For wrong-doers there is a painful doom. 42:21

392. "And as for disbelievers, theirs will be an awful doom." 42:26

393. Allah sometimes kills people for misbehaving. 42:34

394. "For such there is a painful doom." 42:42

395. Allah sends some people astray and then punishes them for it by burning them in the Fire. 42:44-46

396. "And thou wilt see them exposed to (the Fire), made humble by disgrace." 42:45

397. Those who turn people away from Islam will "be sharers in the doom." 43:37-39

398. When the Egyptians angered Allah, he drowned them all. 43:55

399. Those who argue and do wrong will have a painful doom that will come upon them suddenly. 43:65-66

400. The guilty are tormented forever in hell. Allah will not relax their punishment. 43:74-75

401. "But they will come to know."
Allah will torment disbelievers forever in hell. 43:88-89

402. Those in torment will claim to believe and ask Allah for relief. But he will refuse since they will return to their disbelief. 44:11-16

403. Those in hell must eat from a tree like molten brass that burns their bellies. Then boiling water will be poured on their heads. 44:43-48

404. "He hath saved them [Muslims] from the doom of hell."
(Everyone else is going to hell.) 44:56

405. Those who hear and reject Allah's revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom. 45:7-8

406. Those who joke about Allah's revelations will go to hell. Theirs will be a shameful doom. 45:9-10

407. Those who disbelieve in Allah's revelations will have an awful doom of wrath. 45:11

408. "Your habitation is the Fire, and there is none to help you." 45:34

409. Disbelievers will be rewarded with the ignominious doom of the Fire. 46:20

410. Serve only Allah or face the doom of a tremendous day. 46:21

411. The guilty will face a wind with a painful torment. 46:25

412. Allah has destroyed entire towns. 46:27

413. If you believe Muhammed, Allah will forgive some of your sins and protect you from the painful doom (that he plans to torture everyone else with). 46:31

414. Allah will taunt the disbelievers that he torments in the fire, saying: "Taste the doom for that ye disbelieved." 46:34

415. Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 47:4

416. Allah will damn the disbelievers and make all their actions fruitless. 47:8-9

417. Disbelievers may eat and be happy now, but the Fire will be their final home. 47:12

418. Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. 47:15

419. Allah curses people by making them deaf and blind. 47:23

420. Angels will gather them together and smite their faces and backs. 47:27

421. Those who think an evil thought concerning Allah will be cursed and sent to hell by him. 48:6

422. Allah has prepared a flame for the disbelievers. 48:13

423. If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

424. "Whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." 48:17

425. But if you're willing to fight for Allah, he will provide you with lots of booty. 48:19-20

426. Allah punished those who disbelieved with a painful punishment. 48:25

427. Those with Muhammad are ruthless toward disbelievers and merciful toward themselves. 48:29

428. Allah will hurl those who believe in another god into a dreadful doom. 50:26

429. "We say unto hell: Art thou filled? and it saith: Can there be more to come?"
Allah talks to hell about it's occupancy level. 50:30

430. Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 50:36

431. Accursed are the conjecturers who ask: When is the Day of Judgment? It is the day they will be tormented by the Fire. 51:10-14

432. "We left behind therein a portent for those who fear a painful doom." 51:37

433. Lo! the doom of thy Lord will surely come to pass." 52:7

434. Those who deny the existence of hell will be thrust into its Fire. 52:11-16

435. "Their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire."
(Everyone else is going to hell -- and the believers are all okay with that.) 52:18

436. "Allah hath been gracious unto us and hath preserved us from the torment of the breath of Fire." 52:27

437. Allah sent a storm of stones on Lot's folk, killing all but Lot's family. 54:34

438. The suffering in hell will be more wretched and bitter than anything experienced on earth. 54:46-48

439. Allah destroyed many people, but does anyone remember anymore? 54:51

440. "There will be sent, against you both, heat of fire and flash of brass, and ye will not escape." 55:35

441. The guilty deny hell. But after they die they go circling between it and fierce, boiling water. 55:43-44

442. But those on his left hand will face scorching wind, scalding water, and black smoke. 56:42-43

443. Those who deny Allah and the Hereafter will eat from the Zaqqum tree and drink boiling water. 56:51-54

444. Allah will welcome the rejecters and erring with boiling water and a roasting in the hell fire. 56:92-94

445. Those who disbelieve or doubt the revelations of Allah will be face the doom. 57:13-14

446. The home of disbelievers is the Fire, a hapless journey's end. 57:15

447. Those who disbelieve and deny Allah's revelations are the owners of the fire. 57:19

448. For disbelievers is a painful doom. 58:4

449. For disbelievers is a shameful doom. 58:5

450. Those who disobey Muhammed will go to hell. 58:8

451. Don't make friends with Allah's enemies. For those who do so, Allah has prepared a dreadful doom. 58:14-15

452. Those who turn others away from the way of Allah will have a shameful doom. They are rightful owners of the Fire. 58:16-17

453. Allah cast fear into the hearts of the disbelieving People of the Scripture. Their home in the Hereafter will be the Fire. 59:2-3

454. The disbelievers fear the believers more than Allah. 59:13

455. The devil and disbelievers will be in the Fire. 59:16-17

456. Allah loves those who fight for him. 61:4

457. "O ye who believe! Shall I show you a commerce that will save you from a painful doom?" 61:10

458. Those who disbelieve will have a painful doom. 64:5

459. Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 64:10

460. The fuel of the Fire is men and stones. 66:6

461. Be stern with disbelievers. They are going to Hell anyway. 66:9

462. Allah has prepared for the devils a doom of flame. 67:5

463. Disbelievers will go to hell where they will hear its roaring and boiling. 67:6-7

464. Who will protect the disbelievers from a painful doom? (Nobody) 67:28

465. Those who consider the Quran to be "mere fables" will be branded on the nose.68:15-16

466. Those who do not believe in Allah will be chained up and cast into hell-fire where they will eat filth. 69:30-35

467. "Lo! it is the fire of hell Eager to roast." 70:15

468. Doom is about to fall on all disbelievers. Only worshippers (Muslims) and those who preserve their chastity (except with their wives and slave girls) will be spared from "the fires of hell" that are "eagar to roast." 70:1-30

469. "Lo! the doom of their Lord is that before which none can feel secure" (except for maybe those who are fearful of it). 70:27-28

470. Disbelievers will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah. 70:36, 44

471. Allah sent Noah to warn people about the painful doom he was planning to send. (It didn't work out well; Allah sent it anyway.) 71:1

472. Those that Allah drowned in Noah's flood were then tortured forever in the Fire. 71:25

473. Noah asked Allah to drown all the disbelievers. 71:26

474. The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17

475. Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23

476. The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17

477. Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23

478. Allah will take care of the deniers. He will tie them up, burn them in a raging fire, and feed them food that chokes them. 73:11-13

479. The last day will be a day of anguish for disbelievers. 74:9-10

480. Those who are stubborn to Allah's revelations will face a fearful doom. 74:16-17

481. The fire of hell shrivels humans and spares nothing. 74:27-29

482. Allah has appointed angels to tend the Fire and has prepared stumbling blocks for those who disbelieve. He sends some people (whoever he wants) astray. 74:31

483. Those who pay attention to this life and ignore the Hereafter will suffer forever in hell. 75:20-29

484. The doom is coming soon. 75:35

485. Allah has prepared chains, manacles, and a raging fire for the disbelievers. 76:4

486. Allah has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 76:31

487. Allah destroyed "the former folk." 77:16

488. Woe unto the repudiators on that day! 77:19, 77:24, 77:28, 77:34, 77:40, 77:45, 77:49

489. Depart unto that doom which ye used to deny." 77:29

490. Those who deny the revelations given to Muhammed will burn forever in hell. 78:21-30

491. "Lo! We warn you of a doom at hand, a day whereon a man will look on that which his own hands have sent before, and the disbeliever will cry: 'Would that I were dust!'" 78:40

492. Those who rebel by choosing this life over the next will go to hell. 79:37-39

493. The wicked will burn in hell forever. 82:14-16

494. Those who reject Allah's revelations will burn in hell. 83:10-17

495. The disbelievers used to laugh at the believers. But the final laugh will be on them. 83:29-36

496. Some folks will be thrown into a scorching fire. 84:11-12

497. Disbelievers will be given a painful doom. 84:22-24

498. "(Self-)destroyed were the owners of the ditch Of the fuel-fed fire." 85:4-5

499. Those who persecute Muslims, without repenting, will burn in hell. 85:10

500. Those who are flung into the great Fire will neither live nor die. 87:12-13

501. On that day many will be sad and weary. Scorched by the fire, drinking boiling water, with only bitter thorn-fruit to eat. 88:2-7

502. Allah will punish disbelievers with the direst punishment. 88:23-24

503. Allah poured the disaster of His punishment upon those who rebelled against him. 89:11-13

504. Those who disbelieve Allah's revelations will have the Fire placed over them like an awning. 90:19-20

505. "Allah doomed them for their sin" and burned their houses. 91:14

506. Those who deny Allah's revelations must endure the flaming fire. 92:14-16

507. Allah will grab those who deny His guidance by the forelock and call the guards of hell. 96:13-18

508. Those who disbelieve will abide in the fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. 98:6

509. What is the Calamity? It is a day when dead people's bodies will be scattered like moths, consumed in a raging fire. 101:1-11

510. Allah will show humans hellfire and then he will ask them about pleasure. 102:5-7

511. Some rich folks will be flung into the Consuming One, the fire of Allah. 104:4-6

512. Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber. 111:1-5
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Postby DREWCIFER » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:16 am

Jesus Mother-F#cking Christ. You are a hard @ss!

1) Jews are a race and a religion. The Holocaust was racist. To kill someone for their religious views and birthright is a racist belief.

2) fanatic: marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion.
"Uncritical Devotion" in other words they follow blindly and as I said previously, "They take only a limited view of a specific passage and justify murder with it."

3) No Dogma is better than another. All Dogmas are flawed.

4) Nowhere in the bible does it say to shoot someone. Nowhere in the Koran does it say to become a suicide bomber.

4) The problem with all religion is the way they are interpreted. Some may take one passage as figurative another as literal. It's a mad, mad world. That is why all religion is flawed, what one takes, another dismisses. This is true with all humanity, and that is why religion is flawed. humans muck it up. Most are too weak willed and too weak minded to learn something and create their own point of view. They take only what is fed to them. There are many exceptions to this rule. Those exception are intelligent people and don't listen to the drivel fed to them.

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Postby DREWCIFER » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:31 am

I would like to add.

You are a hard @ss!


I apologize if you were offended by being called a Hard @ss. It was improper for me to call you that. I do not mean offence and please take no offense. It is not like me to attack someone personally. This was wrong, I prefer to use the "one and ones self".

Jesus Mother-F#cking Christ.


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I'm just passing through, but I do agree that being critical of Islam is not being racist on the grounds that Islam may be seen as being spread by certain ethinc groups, but is not an ethinic group unto itself. The school I teach at has many many Muslim students, some are of middle eastern decent and some are eastern European and soem are good ol' Americans.
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All right Smooth, you're right that Islam is filled with dangerous hate-speech, against unbelievers.

However, that still does not justify "stopping" it.


Like I said before, it merely reflects the traits of a pre-existing society, which was medieval. Honor killings, hurting women, these things are not the fault of Islam, they are the fault of the culture. This can be evidenced by the many Muslims in western society that do not hurt women.

People who live in America know they don't have to kill their daughters for being raped, even though Islam says so.

It's a culture thing. We don't need to get rid of a religion, we need to get rid of backwards, abusive, sexist thinking in general, which can be found all over the world where people are poor or uneducated.


And no, it's not racist to do against Islam. But it is prejudice, which is the same damn thing, only towards more than just race.
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Postby skippytron » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:07 pm

Dark Zarak wrote:Like I said before, it merely reflects the traits of a pre-existing society, which was medieval. Honor killings, hurting women, these things are not the fault of Islam, they are the fault of the culture. This can be evidenced by the many Muslims in western society that do not hurt women.

People who live in America know they don't have to kill their daughters for being raped, even though Islam says so.

It's a culture thing. We don't need to get rid of a religion, we need to get rid of backwards, abusive, sexist thinking in general, which can be found all over the world where people are poor or uneducated.


And no, it's not racist to do against Islam. But it is prejudice, which is the same damn thing, only towards more than just race.


i think it should be pointed out here that islam was invented by a person and absorbed and supported by the people. its flawed from the get go. dont give islam its own entity as if it came first and the followers came after.

Mohammad, somewhere in the seventh century, decided that god came down and changed all the stuff he said to Jesus and gave the new biz exclusively to him.

this was an invention people. it is spawning religious killing on a massive scale and has done since its inception. it is not hindered by modern attitudes the way christianity is.

christians dont want to stone people to death anymore. thats because they have a realistic understanding that that is not on in our modern times. obviously.

islam doesnt have those natural restraints. its a seventh century religion. life was not valued then the way it is now. only control. call me prejudiced. i'm just against the abuse of human rights like everyone else. [/quote]
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:35 pm

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Nope, this thread's not xenophobic at all. Not one bit. [-(

Except for being kind of like the Holocaust, only with Muslims instead of Jews.
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Postby Professor Smooth » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:20 pm

Shadowman wrote:Nope, this thread's not xenophobic at all. Not one bit. [-(

Except for being kind of like the Holocaust, only with Muslims instead of Jews.


Yeah, because I suggested rounding them up and killing them, right?

You don't fight an idea with violence. You fight it with knowledge. By looking at Islam, really looking at it (and not just going by what people tell you about it) , it's obviously a bad idea.

I, for one, refuse to give respect or even basic toleration to an idea that calls directly for the deaths of everyone I love and myself. Look at the 500+ examples above. These are not taken out of context. These are NOT good ideas. These are ideals that put those of the Ku Klux Klan to shame. They are violent, oppressive, and harmful to everyone involved.
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Postby skippytron » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:25 pm

Some people think Islam is dangerous and untrue (as in its all a load anyway) that is not xenophobia.
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Postby Shadowman » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:47 pm

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Shadowman wrote:Nope, this thread's not xenophobic at all. Not one bit. [-(

Except for being kind of like the Holocaust, only with Muslims instead of Jews.


Yeah, because I suggested rounding them up and killing them, right?

You don't fight an idea with violence. You fight it with knowledge. By looking at Islam, really looking at it (and not just going by what people tell you about it) , it's obviously a bad idea.

I, for one, refuse to give respect or even basic toleration to an idea that calls directly for the deaths of everyone I love and myself. Look at the 500+ examples above. These are not taken out of context. These are NOT good ideas. These are ideals that put those of the Ku Klux Klan to shame. They are violent, oppressive, and harmful to everyone involved.


Hm, maybe so, but all you're doing is spreading ignorance, intolerance, and prejudice.

I happen to know some Muslim people, and it may surprise you to find out--NONE OF THEM EVER TRIED TO KILL ME.
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Postby skippytron » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:16 pm

Shadowman wrote:Hm, maybe so, but all you're doing is spreading ignorance, intolerance, and prejudice.


I dont think the violent tenets of their faith should be tolerated. i want to be prejudice against that. absolutely 100%.

I dotn want to start a fight by saying "i'm gonna kill all muslims". i wanna say, 'hey, check it out, your religion is a fraud and its really obvious!!
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Postby Professor Smooth » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:18 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Hm, maybe so, but all you're doing is spreading ignorance, intolerance, and prejudice.



I educate people on dangerous passages in the Muslim Holy Book and I'm spreading ignorance? Please come back when you've looked the word up in a dictionary. And while we're talking about words you clearly don't understand, let's talk about "prejudice," shall we? The word comes from "Judge" and "Pre." Taken together it's the action of judging something without all of the relevant data. I have done extensive study into Islam. I am FULLY qualified to JUDGE it.

I fully admit that I am intolerant to an ideology that calls for my death. You'd be mad to expect anything else. Are African Americans TOLERANT to the views of the Ku Klux Klan?
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Postby KAMJIIN » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:10 am

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Professor Smooth wrote:I educate people on dangerous passages in the Muslim Holy Book and I'm spreading ignorance?


Professor Smooth, I can find identical quotes to all those you offered in the Old Testament. By your reasoning we should wipe out Christians as well? :-x

That was flame bait pure and simple. I truly hope you don't believe that tripe.

Professor Smooth wrote:I fully admit that I am intolerant to an ideology that calls for my death.


Judaism and Christianity call for my death, but I'm not intolerant of them. When you lump all moslems into the terrorist groups, who is showing their ignorance?

My first job was working for a Moslem. He was a great guy. He smokes too much, though, because his wife drives him nuts. I was in the shop with him on the day of the attacks, and his reaction was the same as everyone else I know. But he still bitches 'till sunset on Ramadan every year. He hasn't abandoned his faith because some idiots proved they were idiots.

You are generalizing an entire religion based on a group of fanatics. Shall we start a Christianty bashing thread as well? Christian fanatics have done and still do terrible things in the name of religion. Shall we really start comparing? To blame all Christians for the actions of a few is rediculous, and so is blaming all moslems for the actions of a few loons.

Put the blame where it belongs, on the morons that do these sorts of things.
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Re: Islam must be stopped.

Postby HoosierDaddy » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:47 am

Professor Smooth wrote:I do a lot of complaining about Christianity, but let's be realistic, with a few exceptions, most modern day Christians aren't really a threat to anybody. Yeah, it sucks that the Christian in the white house vetoes government funding for stem-cell research, and I'm sure that marriage-minded homosexuals could do without the Christian Morality Police beating down their door. At least the Jehova's Witness knocks ON your door, not down it.

Islam, and those that practice it, are a very real threat to the safety, security, and very lives of everyone in the world. While Christians, it seems, are content to use their religion to justify their own bigotries (ewww, men having sex! That's gross...er, the Bible says it), Islam not only allows and suggests, but DEMANDS violence be carried out.

9/11. There is NO WAY this could have happened without Islam. There is just no way. This happened because they believed (because it was written in their holy book) that they would be rewarded for murdering thousands of people.

Look at what they do to women. ALL women. Women get the shaft in the Christian and Jewish holy books too, but not anywhere NEAR to the extent that Islam does. In Islam, women aren't treated like animals, they're treated like VERMIN.

And if I hear one more person open their yap about how we should "tolerate their religious views" I am going to really lose it. Have any of these people actually looked at what these religious views ARE? Those views say that you should DIE. How can you be expected to tolerate the views that you, your family, and damn near everyone you've ever met are to be killed by Muslims? I'm not making this crap up, people!

Yeah, Islam will be a religion of peace...AFTER EVERY SINGLE NON MUSLIM has been KILLED. These aren't the "radical fundamentalist muslims," these are just the ones who've READ THE DAMNED BOOK.

Now some of you might say "I know a Muslim and he's a good friend of mine." He's doing it wrong. He's not a real Muslim. Just like people who claim to be Christians who don't go to church and have never read a version of the Bible are not real Christians.

Now, what am I suggesting? Am I suggesting that Islam be made illegal? That we find people of this "faith" and attack them? Of course not! That would be mean and just plain futile. But I think that people should know the facts about this religion, including those people who claim to practice it. I think that "The Media" needs to pull its head out of its ass and actually ask the Islamic Apologists who show up on TV after a member of Islam blows something up just where the Quaran (or Koran) says that this kind of thing is forbidden (or even frowned upon) by the book.

How are you tolerate a view that your family should be murdered?


For starters, Thank you. This post was needed. It's about time we took some time off from attacking Christians and focus upon the religion that is CURRENTLY the real threat.

Second, I have to say that I as a Christian, do not care about gay marrige. Christians in general really shouldn't care. Basically the way I see it is, we are a free country. There will be people who have bad morals (as far as Biblical morals go) and if someone wants to be gay then that is between them and God. It is not my place to judge them. They will face their judgement and that has nothing to do with me.

Third, Jehovah's witnesses are Christians. Just letting you know. ;;)

Lastly, I do have MANY Arab Muslim friends and many work aquantances, and some of them are tolerant of us but most of them are not. By tolerant I mean, they don't have the desire to kill us for not being muslim but they also don't have the desire to condemn the actions of terroism. In fact I work with a few of these guys that are down right scary. I can tell you guys stories about the things they say and what they desire for America (or the west in general) and it would make your skin crawl. These guys aren't playing around. But like Professor Smooth, I don't know what exactly to do about it other then war. The only thing we can do is fight them in their homeland and stop them from bringing the war to us. As far as the ones who have already infiltrated the US (I'm scared to think about how many are here waiting for their time to attack) I don't know what to do. We need to get after illegal aliens and get them out of the country before it's too late. Stopping illegals isn't just a ploy to get rid of Mexicans. And as far as the Arab muslims I work with, I also work with a lot of Mexicans (many of whom are illegal) and the Arab Muslims can hardly speak good enough English for you to understand them but they speak spanish like there is no tomorrow. My opinion is speaking spanish is what gets them across the border. Find the Mexican connections. Learn fluent Spanish, sneak into the US.
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Postby HoosierDaddy » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:50 am

KAMJIIN wrote:
Judaism and Christianity call for my death,
Explain this bullshit, please.
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Postby KAMJIIN » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:58 am

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He was quoting passages from the Koran, and out of context no less. Passages which are nearly identical to those in the Old Testament. So by his reasoning, your faith is espousing the same thing, encouraging my death. It's basically the old my way or the highway, fire and brimstone stuff.

Read the entire thread next time before going off on someone. :D

And watch the language.
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Postby HoosierDaddy » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:25 am

KAMJIIN wrote:He was quoting passages from the Koran, and out of context no less. Passages which are nearly identical to those in the Old Testament. So by his reasoning, your faith is espousing the same thing, encouraging my death. It's basically the old my way or the highway, fire and brimstone stuff.

Read the entire thread next time before going off on someone. :D

And watch the language.
I see. But you made it sound like Christians and Jews currently want to kill you. That's why i said bullshit because it isn't true. It isn't in the Buble and nowhere in the Bible does it say to kill someone in the name of God because they don't believe such as the Judeo - Christian beliefs. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that. PS is correct that the Quran DOES call for the cutting off the heads of the infidels that do not believe as muslims and will not be converted. the Quran says to kill them because of their beliefs. But even so, this day and age Christians have grown beyond holy wars and the Muslims have not. They continue to attack and kill in the name of God as if it were 1000 years ago. Wasn't attacking YOU, just attacking the statement that was quite ridiculous. You may say it is your opinion, and that is fine, i'll respect that but it is not based in fact. The Bible DOES NOT teach to kill someone because they have differant beliefs. The wars in the Bible mostly are wars in which Jews were defending themselves.
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Postby KAMJIIN » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:45 am

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The Bible is full of that. Read the Old Testament sometime, it's a real eye opener.

If you want to quote the Quran like that to back up your point I can do the same with the Old Testament.

Bottom line is, you hate Moslems. Gotcha, point made.

Now, won't some nice mod lock this thread before someone fires with both barrels.
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Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:31 am

I'm pretty sure there are both Christians and Jews that would very much like to kill everyone who isn't exactly like them. They just don't get a lot of publicity. The Middle East is a whole bundle of politics and instability and that really contributes to people wanting to kill other people. Then mix religion into it... Yeah. There's a reason you get to hear more about Islamic violence and it's not just because it's what gets reported here.


Also, techncially you can't actually spread ignorance.
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Postby skyshadowprimus » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:21 am

KAMJIIN wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:I educate people on dangerous passages in the Muslim Holy Book and I'm spreading ignorance?


Professor Smooth, I can find identical quotes to all those you offered in the Old Testament. By your reasoning we should wipe out Christians as well? :-x

That was flame bait pure and simple. I truly hope you don't believe that tripe.


The difference being here is that on balance of Islam Vs Christian in recent years Islam is embarking upon a killing spree many many times worse, before any quotes the IRA in this, yes i know they kill people but I'm more open to that form of killing as they have a political agenda and use that as leverage.....

Islam want to kill us all as we are infidels...not much room to negotiate with that hence why i would happily carpet bomb the whole middle east.

The main problem as i see it is that you have a self maintaining herd mentality, where a couple of decades ago you had a few fanatics commiting terrorism in the name of Islam, it seems the majority who believes in Islamic teachings condones this behaviour to some degree and do nothing to protest against this, as such this behaviour gets perpetuated through generations and Muslim society to the point where people believe this is what they should be thinking and the religious indoctrination is complete.

Banning Islam is one, and so far the only effective way (IMHO) to stop this as it has got to the point where cutting off the snakes head is the only way to kill the body. No amount of negotiation can reason with fanatics who are brainwashed by a load of bullshit writen in a book thinking it is telling them we all should die, as they can't exactly call Allah up and ask him his/her opinions if what their doing is right, the fanatics opinions will never be swayed.

I don't really care if this comes across as racist, having lived in the UK and seen the 7/7 attacks and heard muslims saying what a good thing it was that innocent people were killed....all in the name of Islam makes me despise them and their culture, we brits and other nations have been way too tolerant in our stance on this and all it has resulted in is further violence, as such the only option left is one of fighting fire with fire.
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