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Loki God Of Mischief wrote:kjyl wrote:Jeep? wrote:Failing that, if it's his own personal connection to the force which allows him to be manipulated, he'd once again be able to manipulate his own bloodstream to destroy said midichlorians. Either way, it's moot, as all radiation is electromagnetic. With one pulse of gamma waves, Magneto would be able to kill anything living around him. Anything. Including your argument.
Is mags really this powerful now in the comics? if so he really took a leap into mary-suedom. and when did he start being able to generate other types of radiation?
For about 15-20 years or so. You did read the post I made where it said that he can manipulate gravity right? And that it's hinted that he controls the elemental energies that make up all matter? Also stop using buzzwords like Mary-Sue incorrectly. It makes you sounds stupid and renders your argument null. For the record Mary Sue is a fanfiction term. It originated in a Star Trek fan fiction. The new character (if you don't see her name coming I don't know what's wrong with you...) Mary Sue quickly became the most beloved member of the crew. She was better at everything then everyone else, and saved the day by dying heroicly. All the main characters mourned her. It was a parody of poopy fanfiction characters being inserted into fanfics and being better than everyone else.
Magneto is a canon character and the primary antagonist to an entire team of heroes he routinely fights by himself (Yes, he has had teams he lead in the past and present. No, he didn't always use them.), so he needs to be powerful to be a believable threat to the X-Men.
Shadowman wrote:Jeep? wrote:Also, the force stems from blood-borne bacteria. Blood. Like, laced with iron. Iron that Magento can manipulate. The second Yoda starts trying to force-push the strongest-willed individual in all of Marvel continuity, he's going to find himself very short on blood - and, thusly, midichlorians.
First off, midi-chlorians are not restricted to blood. They're present in "all living cells." Likewise, and this is important, midi-chlorians aren't the Force, but having a high midi-chlorian count can allow someone to manipulate the Force. That's the misconception that makes the "m-word" so unpopular, a lot of people took what Qui-Gon said to mean midi-chlorians WERE the Force, but they only allow one to make use of it.
Second, who says there's metal in Yoda's blood? He's not human, and barely anything is known about his species.
Omega Sentinel wrote:Man that's the truth. I hate that OS guy.
Jeep? wrote:Shadowman wrote:Jeep? wrote:Also, the force stems from blood-borne bacteria. Blood. Like, laced with iron. Iron that Magento can manipulate. The second Yoda starts trying to force-push the strongest-willed individual in all of Marvel continuity, he's going to find himself very short on blood - and, thusly, midichlorians.
First off, midi-chlorians are not restricted to blood. They're present in "all living cells." Likewise, and this is important, midi-chlorians aren't the Force, but having a high midi-chlorian count can allow someone to manipulate the Force. That's the misconception that makes the "m-word" so unpopular, a lot of people took what Qui-Gon said to mean midi-chlorians WERE the Force, but they only allow one to make use of it.
Second, who says there's metal in Yoda's blood? He's not human, and barely anything is known about his species.
More types of living cell makes it far more likely that some part of Yoda's chemical makeup is a metallic element. You forget that only about twenty-five of the 117 known elements aren't metallic. Anyway, you completely missed the point that, being in complete control of his own biochemical makeup, Magneto could easily flush out or destroy any midichlorians in his own system, rendering himself immune to the force - bringing the fight down to one of fisticuffs for Yoda.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
Shadowman wrote:Jeep? wrote:Shadowman wrote:Jeep? wrote:Also, the force stems from blood-borne bacteria. Blood. Like, laced with iron. Iron that Magento can manipulate. The second Yoda starts trying to force-push the strongest-willed individual in all of Marvel continuity, he's going to find himself very short on blood - and, thusly, midichlorians.
First off, midi-chlorians are not restricted to blood. They're present in "all living cells." Likewise, and this is important, midi-chlorians aren't the Force, but having a high midi-chlorian count can allow someone to manipulate the Force. That's the misconception that makes the "m-word" so unpopular, a lot of people took what Qui-Gon said to mean midi-chlorians WERE the Force, but they only allow one to make use of it.
Second, who says there's metal in Yoda's blood? He's not human, and barely anything is known about his species.
More types of living cell makes it far more likely that some part of Yoda's chemical makeup is a metallic element. You forget that only about twenty-five of the 117 known elements aren't metallic. Anyway, you completely missed the point that, being in complete control of his own biochemical makeup, Magneto could easily flush out or destroy any midichlorians in his own system, rendering himself immune to the force - bringing the fight down to one of fisticuffs for Yoda.
That's of course assuming midi-chlorians are made of metal. I would venture a guess and say "No."
But I have to call shenanigans on the whole "he can also control non-magnetic, non-metal substances" thing. He can create and control electromagnetic fields and--Correct me if I'm wrong here--living organisms aren't effected by that. Much like how the human brain, which IS technically an electrical device (Bioelectrical anyway), doesn't suddenly turn off in the wake of an EMP, or why having a higher-than-average amount of iron in your blood doesn't suddenly cause a metal detector at the airport to go off.
Omega Sentinel wrote:Man that's the truth. I hate that OS guy.
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:In Fatal Attractions Magneto didn't just rip out the Adamantium from Wolverine's body. He ripped out the skeleton it was bonded to as well. And the Adamantium looked 'fluid' when he ripped it out. Meaning that the bone it was bonded to was as well. How do I know the skeleton came out too? Go read Fatal Attractions. Jean clearly states that she can't help anymore because she has to telekenetically hold Jim's body together while he heals. He wouldn't have needed his body held together if he still had a skeleton.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Omega Sentinel wrote:Man that's the truth. I hate that OS guy.
kjyl wrote:and if mags is that powerful why isn't he running the joint?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Omega Sentinel wrote:Man that's the truth. I hate that OS guy.
kjyl wrote:if yoda mind control powers work through mag's helmet, then it really depends on who gets the first shot. If not then magneto.
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Magneto designed his helmet to block out psychic attacks somehow. It was done to counter Professor Xavier who was once a friend of Magneto's. So Jedi Mindtricks wouldn't work on him. It would be their fighting skills against each other. And as we can both agree Magneto would most likely beat Yoda.
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:In Fatal Attractions Magneto didn't just rip out the Adamantium from Wolverine's body. He ripped out the skeleton it was bonded to as well. And the Adamantium looked 'fluid' when he ripped it out. Meaning that the bone it was bonded to was as well. How do I know the skeleton came out too? Go read Fatal Attractions. Jean clearly states that she can't help anymore because she has to telekenetically hold Jim's body together while he heals. He wouldn't have needed his body held together if he still had a skeleton.
Predaprince wrote:If there is enough metal in the body for Magneto to manipulate, then why did Mystique have to inject the iron into his guard for him to escape?
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Jeep? wrote:In a universe filled with nigh-omnipotent entities, you're wondering why one powerful mutant isn't boss? Please.
Predaprince wrote:Wait a minute, first your main point of this thread is that Magneto can control the metals in any creature and now you turn around and say that there are entities that are more powerful than him. There seems to be a paradox here as if what you originally tried to point out is true and Magneto can control the metals inside any creature than he would be capable of defeating both Sinister and Apocalypse and everyone else.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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