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Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Okay, I'll set the negativity aside for a bit and join in the speculation. I think the orbital Canon mode, while completely awesome, wouldn't really be practical from a playability standpoint. Keep in mind this is Hasbro were talking about, and they're still going to want this thing to appeal to little kids. That means it needs to have a high degree of playability. Given that I think the space cruiser, or some sort of vehicle mode will be a safe bet. Personally I hope for the space cruiser.

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

I'm personally a fan of him becoming: T-rex, city mode and Spaceship mode, ala Nemesis style. Or maybe just a robot to space ship with huge cannon in it

Ironhidensh wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Okay, I'll set the negativity aside for a bit and join in the speculation. I think the orbital Canon mode, while completely awesome, wouldn't really be practical from a playability standpoint. Keep in mind this is Hasbro were talking about, and they're still going to want this thing to appeal to little kids. That means it needs to have a high degree of playability. Given that I think the space cruiser, or some sort of vehicle mode will be a safe bet. Personally I hope for the space cruiser.

I've honestly always liked the mobile battle station mode they had, but they needed to include more accessories, like clip on turrets/guns for small figures to interact with. I liked the little crane arm included in metro, and hoped they would expand on what it is to be a 'base', especially with the play system they seem to be trying to sell, where you clip bases together. There's really no point in buying all of them for this - especially for a kid - if none of them have anything to do in base mode

It's gotta be the Nemesis.

:pray:

I would put money on a space ship deal (maybe the nemesis, maybe not). Though if they did I would love to see the aircraft carrier lift gimmick from armada tidal wave get used on it.

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Its likely to be idw trypticon I would assume considering metroplexs titan class figure is his idw design not FOC design plus trypticon doesn't need any iind of walking gimmick its better without one

Starsaber468 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Its likely to be idw trypticon I would assume considering metroplexs titan class figure is his idw design not FOC design plus trypticon doesn't need any iind of walking gimmick its better without one

Agreed, besides, it's been many years since hasbro put electronics in a proper figure (dotm leaders, I believe) I doubt they would do that now, especially with the way they've been trying to bump up their profits off of them

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Its likely to be idw trypticon I would assume considering metroplexs titan class figure is his idw design not FOC design plus trypticon doesn't need any iind of walking gimmick its better without one

Agreed, besides, it's been many years since hasbro put electronics in a proper figure (dotm leaders, I believe) I doubt they would do that now, especially with the way they've been trying to bump up their profits off of them

*Metroplex

I don't get why people worry trypticon would have a longer tail then height because its titan class figure if its metroplexs height its been that way amd should stay that way and its probably not gonna change plus I remember someone saying that fortress maximus was going to be released during spring and that trypticon was going to bw released in Fall the perosn probably thought that the fake toy reveal fo fortress maximus was real because fortress maximus is being released in Fall 2016 not 2016 spring, and sorry Sabrblade majin zarak is a good and awee thing but knowing the design it would be a heck of design time since he turns into a aircraft carrier but it would be awesome to see him but it probably would be from takara...

Starsaber468 wrote:I don't get why people worry trypticon would have a longer tail then height because its titan class figure if its metroplexs height its been that way amd should stay that way and its probably not gonna change plus I remember someone saying that fortress maximus was going to be released during spring and that trypticon was going to bw released in Fall the perosn probably thought that the fake toy reveal fo fortress maximus was real because fortress maximus is being released in Fall 2016 not 2016 spring, and sorry Sabrblade majin zarak is a good and awee thing but knowing the design it would be a heck of design time since he turns into a aircraft carrier but it would be awesome to see him but it probably would be from takara...

For me, personally the tail thing would be more a problem of 'How the hell do i get this guy on a shelf?!'

Also, a light sprinkling of punctuation would make that post a whole lot easier to understand.

Mindmaster wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Its likely to be idw trypticon I would assume considering metroplexs titan class figure is his idw design not FOC design plus trypticon doesn't need any iind of walking gimmick its better without one

Agreed, besides, it's been many years since hasbro put electronics in a proper figure (dotm leaders, I believe) I doubt they would do that now, especially with the way they've been trying to bump up their profits off of them

*Metroplex

That's right, he ended up being pretty underwhelming, so I forgot about him...

MemphisR56 wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:I don't get why people worry trypticon would have a longer tail then height because its titan class figure if its metroplexs height its been that way amd should stay that way and its probably not gonna change plus I remember someone saying that fortress maximus was going to be released during spring and that trypticon was going to bw released in Fall the perosn probably thought that the fake toy reveal fo fortress maximus was real because fortress maximus is being released in Fall 2016 not 2016 spring, and sorry Sabrblade majin zarak is a good and awee thing but knowing the design it would be a heck of design time since he turns into a aircraft carrier but it would be awesome to see him but it probably would be from takara...

For me, personally the tail thing would be more a problem of 'How the hell do i get this guy on a shelf?!'

Also, a light sprinkling of punctuation would make that post a whole lot easier to understand.

So wait, you want 24" tall t-rex like bw megs (anatomically correct, bent over more than g1 grimlock) witha long tail, or a 24" t-rex like g1 grimlock where he stands up? Because that first option would be exorbitantly expensive or stupidly hollow, as it would be enormous

I feel Tryp would be more like Devastator sized with the tail taking up more mass and thus requiring a slight shrinkage in height. Still would be very big though

Starsaber468 wrote:I don't get why people worry trypticon would have a longer tail then height

It's a concern that pertains to how big the box that the figure comes in would be. In most cases, the bigger the box's size, the more expensive the product is. I'm sure a lot of us here want Trypticon to be of comparable height to Metroplex, but that tail of his is gonna account for a lot of his mass, which would require a much bigger box, and which would amount to a much bigger price. That's what worries people.

Starsaber468 wrote:and sorry Sabrblade majin zarak is a good and awee thing but knowing the design it would be a heck of design time since he turns into a aircraft carrier but it would be awesome to see him but it probably would be from takara...

You took that jestful post of mine seriously?

I'm very excited for Trypticon. I wouldn't have wanted Scorponok in titan class anyways, and we needed a titan class Decepticon.

I will be interested, however, to see how they make Trypticon a headmaster

Burn wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:At least by waiting until 2017, they are giving the mold time to be developed properly. I want me a badass T-rex standing tall over my cons

All figures take about that long, since they didn't know who would win (assuming it wasn't 'rigged') then the most they could have prepared would be concept art, and basic designs at the most. Now that they know the general order of release, they can start work proper on all three of them in order.

Still gives them lots of time. It takes time to do these molds but at least they can get going and we can be more convinced they are going to try harder

I dunno ... with final production time they may only have six months to develop the figure. I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't got some work done on all three already.

Six months? The figure hits shelves in fall of 2017. They have at least a year from right now before they even need to start cutting out the molds, and it's almost certain they've done some initial concept work prior to this formal announcement.

Starsaber468 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I for one remain cautiously optimistic. I can't imagine they'll screw up Trypticon unless they use, like, FOC-era levels of thin plastic and hollowness or try and cram his walking gimmick back in.

Question is, what should his vehicle mode be? A better version of his "land cruiser" mode the G1 toy had? The Nemesis? Or perhaps an orbital cannon like he turned into in WFC?

Its likely to be idw trypticon I would assume considering metroplexs titan class figure is his idw design not FOC design plus trypticon doesn't need any iind of walking gimmick its better without one

IDW Metroplex used his G1 toy design all the way through Dark Cybertron, and didn't switch to a more Thrilling 30-inspired design until more recently. Thrilling 30 Metroplex more closely resembles FOC Metroplex mixed with G1.

Hellscream9999 wrote:So wait, you want 24" tall t-rex like bw megs (anatomically correct, bent over more than g1 grimlock) witha long tail, or a 24" t-rex like g1 grimlock where he stands up? Because that first option would be exorbitantly expensive or stupidly hollow, as it would be enormous

Personally, I want a Trypticon about the size of that giant Godzilla from last year that was about 2 feet from head to toe and almost 4 feet long. I'm quite okay with some sacrifices in tail length, Trypticon always had kind of a stubby tail. But that's the general shape I want: upright (incorrect) theropod dinosaur as tall as Metroplex. I'm okay with paying more for him than Metro for the necessary extra plastic.

Shockwave 8 wrote:I'm very excited for Trypticon. I wouldn't have wanted Scorponok in titan class anyways, and we needed a titan class Decepticon.

I will be interested, however, to see how they make Trypticon a headmaster

Isn't Devy good enough for you? Since he's the first titan class decepticon after all

As for him being a head master, we'll wait and see. He may not turn out to be a headmaster after all just like combiner wars megatron never combined.

megatronus wrote:It's gotta be the Nemesis.

:pray:

That would be amazing

megatronus wrote:It's gotta be the Nemesis.

:pray:

That would be amazing

I've always thought of Trypticon as being more like a transforming Godzilla anyway (thanks to his bigger arms) so I'm fine with him being upright with a short tail. But a 24" Trypticon would still end up being nearly 3' long from nose to tail which is a lot of bot. And sure, he has smaller arms than Metroplex, but he also has a thicker body and those big back guns that more than make up for it.

ZeroWolf wrote:As for him being a head master, we'll wait and see. He may not turn out to be a headmaster after all just like combiner wars megatron never combined.

If they do go for the Headmaster thing They could simply make Full-Tilt a Titan Master with a vehicle he can combine with to snap on Trypticon's chest as a car. His head mode can look like his IDW comic head. I'm sure there'll be a bunch of ways for Titan Masters to interact with Trypticon the same way Metroplex was made to work with Legends.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I've always thought of Trypticon as being more like a transforming Godzilla anyway (thanks to his bigger arms) so I'm fine with him being upright with a short tail. But a 24" Trypticon would still end up being nearly 3' long from nose to tail which is a lot of bot. And sure, he has smaller arms than Metroplex, but he also has a thicker body and those big back guns that more than make up for it.

Emerje

But he would be massive was my original point, you're asking for, like, 50% more toy, but hasbro would probably never do that on the grounds that normal consumers wouldn't touch it at that price - as it would have to be marked up for being so big (plus, I've never seen a titan figure in the wild anyways)

I do not believe for a moment that Trypticon will be a headmaster (or titan master, if you prefer). However big he is, his titan master partner would have to be the size of a legends or deluxe figure, or even larger, making it incompatible with the other Titan Masters figures, and the bot would have to transform into a dinosaur head instead of a human-ish robot head, another incompatibility with the rest of the line. At least Fort Max will probably have Spike the size of a normal Titan Master. Trypticon doesn't get that luxury unless they make HIM a double headmaster, which would still require the larger head unit to turn into a dino head and sacrifice some cool selling points like mouth articulation and shape and general form factor. I'm sure they'll make Trypticon's base mode compatible with the little Titan Master robots and able to link up with other basebots.

That Bot wrote:I do not believe for a moment that Trypticon will be a headmaster (or titan master, if you prefer). However big he is, his titan master partner would have to be the size of a legends or deluxe figure, or even larger, making it incompatible with the other Titan Masters figures, and the bot would have to transform into a dinosaur head instead of a human-ish robot head, another incompatibility with the rest of the line. At least Fort Max will probably have Spike the size of a normal Titan Master. Trypticon doesn't get that luxury unless they make HIM a double headmaster, which would still require the larger head unit to turn into a dino head and sacrifice some cool selling points like mouth articulation and shape and general form factor. I'm sure they'll make Trypticon's base mode compatible with the little Titan Master robots and able to link up with other basebots.

I think Fort Max is going to be a double Titan(Head)master, with Spike and Cerebros both. Perhaps Trypticon could do the same thing. They could use his minions, Wipe-Out, Full-Tilt, and Brunt.

I'm not saying I like it, just that it may be a possibility....

Agamemnon wrote:

That Bot wrote:I do not believe for a moment that Trypticon will be a headmaster (or titan master, if you prefer). However big he is, his titan master partner would have to be the size of a legends or deluxe figure, or even larger, making it incompatible with the other Titan Masters figures, and the bot would have to transform into a dinosaur head instead of a human-ish robot head, another incompatibility with the rest of the line. At least Fort Max will probably have Spike the size of a normal Titan Master. Trypticon doesn't get that luxury unless they make HIM a double headmaster, which would still require the larger head unit to turn into a dino head and sacrifice some cool selling points like mouth articulation and shape and general form factor. I'm sure they'll make Trypticon's base mode compatible with the little Titan Master robots and able to link up with other basebots.

I think Fort Max is going to be a double Titan(Head)master, with Spike and Cerebros both. Perhaps Trypticon could do the same thing. They could use his minions, Wipe-Out, Full-Tilt, and Brunt.

I'm not saying I like it, just that it may be a possibility....

Cough cough Full tilt cough cough

Starsaber468 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

That Bot wrote:I do not believe for a moment that Trypticon will be a headmaster (or titan master, if you prefer). However big he is, his titan master partner would have to be the size of a legends or deluxe figure, or even larger, making it incompatible with the other Titan Masters figures, and the bot would have to transform into a dinosaur head instead of a human-ish robot head, another incompatibility with the rest of the line. At least Fort Max will probably have Spike the size of a normal Titan Master. Trypticon doesn't get that luxury unless they make HIM a double headmaster, which would still require the larger head unit to turn into a dino head and sacrifice some cool selling points like mouth articulation and shape and general form factor. I'm sure they'll make Trypticon's base mode compatible with the little Titan Master robots and able to link up with other basebots.

I think Fort Max is going to be a double Titan(Head)master, with Spike and Cerebros both. Perhaps Trypticon could do the same thing. They could use his minions, Wipe-Out, Full-Tilt, and Brunt.

I'm not saying I like it, just that it may be a possibility....

Cough cough Full tilt cough cough

He said Full-Tilt.