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Glad you are OK and that nothing came of it, what a jerk. Hopefully one day he will annoy the wrong person and they will sort him out for you. Yeah, killing him wouldnt have been the best move...

Ah, that's what you meant!
That's how I have brocke my friends nose, long story he went and got upset and called my mum a whore- so fist on nose.

Thanks for the tips, but I hate fighting, I always get into a blood thirst and go real mental, I've been toled I even growl like a wiled animal.

So I don't fight so often.

And no you didn't sound to harsh, and the thing with jumping on his back- I would have wrapped my legs around him to prevent him chucking me off.
You think that would have worked?

Malikon wrote:No prob. Rereading my post it came off a little harsh, that wasn't my intention. I just hate when people do the, "kick him in the nuts!" thing. That's for pre-schoolers.

Not at all. If you're in a fight, you need to be willing to do whatever it takes to win and minimise damage to yourself. If a swift kick to the opponent's joy department will do that, and he doesn't stop you, well... sucks to be him.

no, it wouldn't have worked. He could slam his back (*being you) into a car, pole, building, whatever.

He could grab your knee *around his stomach* and dig his thumb into the side of your knee, you'd probably let go and go down on your head.

He could just drop back on his back slamming you with his body weight.

Jumping on the back is never a good move, I've never seen it work. Keep your feet and balance on the ground at all times.



and blowing in someones face is a hell of alot different then kicking someone in the nuts. Granted, it's fighting dirty, but he also said this guy was a lot bigger then him. There's not alot wrong with fighting dirty if you're heavily outweighed or outnumbered. Kicking in the nuts isn't fighting dirty, it's fighting like a coward.

and since when is kicking a bully when he's down a bad thing? You got him down, congratulations, now stomp on him a few times so he gets the message that he shouldn't have messed with you.

apples and oranges man. Kicking in the nuts is just wrong, period. The only people who should get kicked in the nuts are rapists or pedophiles. In which case I'd say get 100 people lined up and they can all take a turn kicking the perv in the nuts.

Sharpwing wrote:I'd even suggest smashing his face in with a baseball bat when he's not looking so he knows not to mess with you again, but that's just me...

That's how you kill a person. And who said anything about weapons?

Problem nowadays is people can't settle disputes with their fists like in the old days. Now it's gotta be knives and guns and drive-bys. Escalating behaviour until someones dead. Just stupid.

Guy bullies you? Either beat him up or get beat up, but at least you stood there toe to toe like a man and dished out a beating or got one yourself. There's nothing to be ashamed of in either scenerio.

If I won a fight by kicking someone in the nuts I'd be pretty ashamed of myself.

Your reasoning makes no sense. You'd rather get the crap beaten out of you than kick someone in the nuts? Well, if that's what you really want, ok. But how is it somehow "wrong"? I repeat: If you're in a fight, you need to be willing to do whatever it takes to win and minimise damage to yourself. If a swift kick to the opponent's joy department will do that, and he doesn't stop you, well... sucks to be him.

If you're not willing to do what it takes to win, don't get in a fight.

Sledge wrote:Your reasoning makes no sense. You'd rather get the crap beaten out of you than kick someone in the nuts? Well, if that's what you really want, ok. But how is it somehow "wrong"? I repeat: If you're in a fight, you need to be willing to do whatever it takes to win and minimise damage to yourself. If a swift kick to the opponent's joy department will do that, and he doesn't stop you, well... sucks to be him.

If you're not willing to do what it takes to win, don't get in a fight.

I agree.

Even moreso when you stop to think that this bully wants to fight you, you do not want to fight him. Make him pay for the mistake if/when you can.

But if you can avoid the fight... that's even better of course.

Exactly. If you can avoid a fight, that's always the best option. If someone is determined to attack you, hit 'em hard, hit 'em fast, and hit 'em from behind. Or between the legs. Whatever it takes to make them stop without them hurting you.

You're supposed to disable (read: not permanently) your opponent. The point of a fight is to beat the opponent, not let them win.

If it's a fist fight and they start beating your brains out, you need to disable them, so you can at least get away. If not possible, beat the opponent while they're down so you can ensure that you'll be able to get away.

Not to mention, you beat 'em good enough, they'll never bother you again.

I'm not gonna argue my point. I've never had to resort to kicking someone in the nuts. You'll have your opinion against fighting and I'll have mine.

But I'll tell you this. The 3 times someone tried to kick me in the nuts in a fight, I made sure they missed, and made sure they woke up in a hospital. If you see a kick coming you can turn, you can grab their foot and break their ankle, there's all kinds of fun things you can do to the guy who tries to kick you in the nuts. But I'm only 'so' angry when I fight, but once someone tries to kick me in the nuts I'm gonna start breaking bones.

What I said before still counts. Keep your feet on the ground and keep your balance at all times. Going for the nuts is probably best reserved for a life and death situation where it's your last chance to get away before the guy kills you.

I can understand a woman kicking a man in the nuts. They don't get how sensitive those parts are.

But a man kicking another man in the cahones? Not cool. (Although, it IS extremely hilarious)

I don't want to seem hostile, but could either of you actually respond to the points people have made instead of just saying "you're wrong"?

what point would that be?

I thought I responded quite well to his initial post, and it's a moot point now anyway, he didn't fight the guy.

It seems pretty simple, there's 2 kinds of guys in the world. Those who put up their fists and actually fight, and those who try to kick another man in the nuts and run away.

I know which side of the coin I'm on, if other guys want to be the other way, that's their right. Just know that if you miss, you're going to get seriously hurt.

Wow, I'm glad girl fights don't involve nuts and punches.

We still fight dirty, like pulling hair and scratching (both of which hurt like hell), but we don't tend to really hurt each other. Once I did get a good hit to the mouth, and had to go to work with a big bruised-up lip.

Oh, I miss watching fights back in high school.

Moonbase2 wrote:We still fight dirty

No such thing as fighting dirty, contrary to what some guys in this thread like to think.

(and for the record, kicking a girl in the groin can cause just as much trauma as doing it to a guy)

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:We still fight dirty

No such thing as fighting dirty, contrary to what some guys in this thread like to think.

(and for the record, kicking a girl in the groin can cause just as much trauma as doing it to a guy)

Well, in actual injury, perhaps, but it definitely doesn't hurt to the same extent (I've been hit there, and while it's not pleasant, it doesn't bring you to your knees).

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:We still fight dirty

No such thing as fighting dirty, contrary to what some guys in this thread like to think.

Yup.. When I got in fights in the past I went by the motto "any means necessary".

Counterpunch wrote:(and for the record, kicking a girl in the groin can cause just as much trauma as doing it to a guy)

Agreed, my sister kicked this girl in the crotch once and she went down like a lead weight in water.

Moonbase2 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:We still fight dirty

No such thing as fighting dirty, contrary to what some guys in this thread like to think.

(and for the record, kicking a girl in the groin can cause just as much trauma as doing it to a guy)

Well, in actual injury, perhaps, but it definitely doesn't hurt to the same extent (I've been hit there, and while it's not pleasant, it doesn't bring you to your knees).

First tournement I was in, one woman was kicked in the groin.

I was going to ask her about it, how it felt, etc, but she was too busy being taken to the hospital.

Hmm...I'm not saying it didn't hurt, but it wasn't so major that I required medical attention...geez louise I'm glad I wasn't hurt THAT badly!

maybe she got her uhm,....little button smashed. I imagine that could do some damage.

Moonbase2 wrote:Hmm...I'm not saying it didn't hurt, but it wasn't so major that I required medical attention...geez louise I'm glad I wasn't hurt THAT badly!

A kick to the groin does not always require a hospital visit..
Matter o' fact kicking me in the groin seems to makes me angrier.
I was kicked once in the groin while I was in school and I reacted by grabbing the guys throat, pulling him towards me and headbutting him in the face (not to mention I bruised his throat and his vocal cords when I pulled him).
I got suspended and he got stitches, could not talk or swallow solid food for a couple of days and a suspension.

The girl my sister kicked got back up after a few minutes but was extremely sore..

Cyber Bishop wrote:I was kicked once in the groin while I was in school and I reacted by grabbing the guys throat, pulling him towards me and headbutting him in the face (not to mention I bruised his throat and his vocal cords when I pulled him).
I got suspended and he got stitches, could not talk or swallow solid food for a couple of days and a suspension.

I tried making that point. I'm extremely glad you did that to him. That's what I was trying to mention. The last guy that tried that on me got his foot turned around, where if he'd just fought like normal he'd have only gotten some bruises, swelling, and some sore ribs.

Someone trying to kick your nuts can make you homicidal. I've never, ever hit, smacked, screamed at, or whatever to a girl. But when I was younger, *(like 20) a girl showing off for her girlfriends tried to run up at a party and kick me in the nuts. *she thought it was funny and had already smacked a couple dudes in the nuts that night*, but anyway she ran up and I saw her foot coming towards my jewels and knew that she meant it since she'd been doing stuff like that all night. But honestly I chucked that bitch across the room before I even realized it. To this day that's the only female I ever put my hands on, and I still feel guilty over it even though I know she deserved it.

Bad news messing with a man's junk in a hostile manner.

While we're on the subject of Nut Shots, I think this is oddly appropriate.

Shadowman wrote:While we're on the subject of Nut Shots, I think this is oddly appropriate.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dracula wrote:BLAH

LMAO!!!!!!!!

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:Hmm...I'm not saying it didn't hurt, but it wasn't so major that I required medical attention...geez louise I'm glad I wasn't hurt THAT badly!

A kick to the groin does not always require a hospital visit..
Matter o' fact kicking me in the groin seems to makes me angrier.
I was kicked once in the groin while I was in school and I reacted by grabbing the guys throat, pulling him towards me and headbutting him in the face (not to mention I bruised his throat and his vocal cords when I pulled him).
I got suspended and he got stitches, could not talk or swallow solid food for a couple of days and a suspension.

The girl my sister kicked got back up after a few minutes but was extremely sore..

What is bad is that I hit MYSELF in the groin....I still remember how painful it was for about 30 seconds, then I was ok.