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by **Cyclonus_Maximus** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:25 am

Cyclonus Maximus has mixed feelings about it. I liked the "edge" it was given, but I would have liked for the tune to remain at least similar to the original. I really enjoyed the battle scenes set to the guitar solo. Mixed feelings about the rap, but it was ok.

Overall, C-, and the grade is only this high because he included scenes from ROTF in it and gave it an edge.

Cyclonus Maximus has spoken.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:35 am

2 girls 1 cup was easier to watch than that.

Website · by **Ronynus Prime** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:45 am

It's really not that bad. The audio quality (Youtube' general output quality not withstanding) is really no different than say the "Before It's Too Late" single from the first film. It would be rather easy to hear this playing in a scene or typically at the end credits. I think what the real problem is is the production quality of the music video...

News Credits: 2 · by **Stickshift** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:54 am

Oh dear!

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:15 pm

I liked it until the one guy started rapping

And why was the other guitarist smiling at me the whole time?

by **Primus C-00** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:27 pm

Robinson wrote:2 girls 1 cup was easier to watch than that.

*lolth*

by **jonusjaxon** » Fri May 15, 2009 1:22 pm

Bad Stan! Bad! *rubs Stan's nose in it*

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Fri May 15, 2009 2:49 pm

Mummy, make it stop!!

Actually, I can see what he was trying to do. Put some emotion into it, change the style. If I were him I would consider that a maybe. Why not hand it over to somebody else to rework if it has be reworked, there must be some band out there that could bring it up to date.

The guitar guy made me nervous.

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Fri May 15, 2009 3:49 pm

I don't like it. The rap was bad, but Bush's singing style was terrible. The original song loses its anthem-like quality and taps into a style that peaked in popularity about 6 years ago.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Fri May 15, 2009 4:00 pm

Dear god what was that? Couldnt even watch the hole thing. Compared to the original that was crap. Stan just because you cant hit those high notes the same way any more doesnt mean you add in a terrible rapper guy. linkin park already did a song for the album theres no need for a linkinparkesc song. Im sorry im a fan of his work but this was just wrong. They should've just re-recorded the original so it sounds fresh and new like Iron Maiden did with Wrathchild. Hell a live version of the original would've kicked ass. I would agree with those that say he sold out. And its kinda our fault to. We wanted one of his songs in the movie so bad that he did what they wanted instead of sticking to what works so it would be included. See this movie franchise is screwing up the TF universe.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Fri May 15, 2009 4:22 pm

Megatron_Wolf wrote:Dear god what was that? Couldnt even watch the hole thing. Compared to the original that was crap. Stan just because you cant hit those high notes the same way any more doesnt mean you add in a terrible rapper guy. linkin park already did a song for the album theres no need for a linkinparkesc song. Im sorry im a fan of his work but this was just wrong. They should've just re-recorded the original so it sounds fresh and new like Iron Maiden did with Wrathchild. Hell a live version of the original would've kicked ass. I would agree with those that say he sold out. And its kinda our fault to. We wanted one of his songs in the movie so bad that he did what they wanted instead of sticking to what works so it would be included. See this movie franchise is screwing up the TF universe.

I REALLY doubt that version will be in the movie. That was in no way a studio backed video, the production quality on it was just crap.

News Credits: 1 · by **YRQRM0** » Fri May 15, 2009 4:28 pm

This is okay...I geuss. I wasn't around in the 80's, but I'm big enough TF fan to appreciate the glory of the old version, a well as the movie itself. But this just doesn't fit with it. The chorous is cool, everything else is bad. If Linkin Park redid this song inot modern rock, WITHOUT San, it could've been awesome. Stan has too much 80's in him, he can't adapt to the modern sounds. Linkin Park IS the modernsound, they probably could've done it.

BTW, I love the original, and Dare, so I'm not trying to bag on Stan at all

by **AdventPrime** » Fri May 15, 2009 5:51 pm

*sigh* I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but I actually like this song.
The video's meh with that random guitar player dude, but the effects were pretty good.
I like the original, but it's a bit too 80's for me. This is a nice alternative for me.

by **justynnbailey** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:01 pm

AdventPrime wrote:*sigh* I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but I actually like this song.
The video's meh with that random guitar player dude, but the effects were pretty good.
I like the original, but it's a bit too 80's for me. This is a nice alternative for me.

Admittedly I'm still not 100% sure on what "flaming" is, but it isn't a crime to like a song. It just isnt my cup of tea....

by **Badass Grimlock** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:23 pm

Forgotten wrote:That was the worst thing i've heard in soooo long and I just listened to the new Eminem cd so there's a comparison for ya. I think that now that band needs to be cast in ROTF and have megatron step on them, grind his heel and activate a tank tread so that we never have any more of these outbursts of "artistic idea" from Stan & co. appear in the next Transformers movie. Maybe I went to far, but.......I THOUGHT THAT WAS TERRIBLE!!!

Dude, I think you just out-grossed the finale of Turok with that statement.

News Credits: 1 · by **Blozor** » Fri May 15, 2009 6:31 pm

The Interent: Raping your childhood since 1996.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:32 pm

He clearly does not understand the genre he's imitating there.

News Credits: 3 · by **Samsonator** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:31 pm

Y'know, a second listen to the song, and just listening, not actually watching the horrendous video with creepy-rapey-guitarman there, it's not that bad, I still think Stan coulda done better and all, but really, not bad.

News Credits: 2 · by **Stickshift** » Fri May 15, 2009 11:03 pm

As far as the guitarist goes, surely it's a case of "Don't Touch"?

by **Cyberjet #7** » Fri May 15, 2009 11:27 pm

A part of the Transformer spirit just died when that song was created.

Take a great, '80s, upbeat rock song about how kick-ass Optimus Prime is and turn it into an off-key, melodramatic, over-indulgent sob-fest. I wasn't thrilled with seeing Stan in a tight leather jacket, with his gut sticking out during his "The Touch"/warfare remix and it doesn't flatter him now, either. He was unable to hit any of the notes well and parts sounded as if his voice was about to crack; the expression on his face looked painful.

Besides, what does "The Touch" have to do with Sam? The ROTF trailer shows Sam freaking out, denying any part of the "war", and rejecting a robot who saves his life in order to go to college. Every lyric in the song is a contradiction to the character of Sam Witwicky.

News Credits: 1014 · by **First Gen** » Sat May 16, 2009 9:48 am

Wow. That was beyond bad. The Touch: Sam's Theme?!! Are you serious?

It was so bad I was waiting for the joke.

I'm still waiting.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Sat May 16, 2009 10:23 am

This is like the least likely thing for Michael Bay to pick up...

by **Steamed_Ham** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:37 am

xxaMaxx wrote:
Mechastrike wrote:YOU SOLD OUT! YOU SOLD OUT! YOU SOLD OUT!

I'm pretty sure you have to be making money to have sold out. I get the impression poor Stan Bush isn't really making money off his music.

While I doubt he dives into a swiming pool of money Scrooge McDuck-style every night, but wouldn't he get a decent amount of money off royalties from the original TF movie and Bloodsport, Kickboxer etc?

I heard The Touch in the men's bathroom of my local cinema once, he should have got a full 5p from that right there.

by **Mechas8n** » Sat May 16, 2009 1:05 pm

So I take it we didnt like it then.

I never got to see it as its gone now, but How could he have possibly thought that was a good idea "I know Ill take somthing from the 1980's and update it with modern styling and sensibilities. Im sure the Transformers fans love it when that happens!"

:-P

News Credits: 2 · by **Stickshift** » Sat May 16, 2009 1:15 pm

I heard The Touch in the men's bathroom of my local cinema once, he should have got a full 5p from that right there.

Maybe that was the guitarist in the stall with the hole in the side?

Not sure about the 5p though. From the looks of him he was probably doing it for free.

:wink: