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News Credits: 3 · by **Torneira** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:47 pm

So, if it isn't too hard to transform Star Saber, will this affect the price in a positive way?
Due to the fact that it wouldn't be a lot of engineering involved to make him transform.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:50 pm

Torneira wrote:So, if it isn't too hard to transform Star Saber, will this affect the price in a positive way?
Due to the fact that it wouldn't be a lot of engineering involved to make him transform.

That's a good question. Keep in mind that there's a general set price point for Masterpieces that Takara tries to stay within so who knows. They might load him up with little add ons to keep the price on the same level.

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:22 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Torneira wrote:So, if it isn't too hard to transform Star Saber, will this affect the price in a positive way?
Due to the fact that it wouldn't be a lot of engineering involved to make him transform.

That's a good question. Keep in mind that there's a general set price point for Masterpieces that Takara tries to stay within so who knows. They might load him up with little add ons to keep the price on the same level.

Given recent trends, I think we can safely assume at least a baseline price of $160.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:51 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't see a lot in the way of joints or seams that would give an idea as to how the figure comes together. I really feel keeping the Brainmaster gimmick intact is crucial.

This is a really important point.

Star Saber's transformation is so simple, if the complexity is not in his "nesting doll" attributes, we're getting screwed over.

Absolutely. Is it too early to start wishing for a MP Victory Leo?

NEVER

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:55 pm

Courtesy of the fine folks over on the Planet Iacon Facebook page we have an image from one of the Japanese hobby magazines featuring new images of the Masterpiece Star Saber prototype. The images give us our first look at Saber and the vehicles modes. We also get a look at MP-22 Ultra Magnus, the Movie Advance G1 style Deluxe Wheeljack, and the massive non-transforming Scorponok figure from Gigantic Action.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:00 am

SABER!!!!!

Please have the Yuuki no Brain as well! Please have the Yuuki no Brain as well! :PRAY:

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:01 am

Sabrblade wrote:SABER!!!!!

Please have the Yuuki no Brain as well! Please have the Yuuki no Brain as well!

Then it will truly be the best MP evah!!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:40 am

I want this...Wonder if the sword sheaths the same way as in victory. Still would like to know if there's a victory Leo on the way.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:49 am

All the fuzzy feelings inside.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:28 am

ZeroWolf wrote:I want this...Wonder if the sword sheaths the same way as in victory. Still would like to know if there's a victory Leo on the way.

We'll know for sure once we see connectors attached to Saber's feet and back

by **guarayakha** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:18 am

Even if there's no MP V-Leo I'll be happy if it's even compatible with the original V-Leo.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:36 am

guarayakha wrote:Even if there's no MP V-Leo I'll be happy if it's even compatible with the original V-Leo.

Some people are speculating that it might very well be backwards-compatible with the G1 Victory Leo toy.

by **Xephon0930** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:02 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I want this...Wonder if the sword sheaths the same way as in victory. Still would like to know if there's a victory Leo on the way.

We'll know for sure once we see connectors attached to Saber's feet and back

Considering that all Victory Leo has to do to combine with Star Saber is to be giant platform shoes and a jetpack, it isn't that far off from the realm of possibility.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:49 pm

Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:11 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

I did not know this...I wonder if they have made a MP Genesic GaoGaiGar or a King J-Der J Phoenix accessory...Takara will own my soul at this rate. :lol:

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:21 pm

im not blown away. probably because im not invested in the character. but hey, small blurry grey prototype pics wouldnt have blown me away anyways. looking forward to the real deal.

by **Xephon0930** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:45 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

Takara did have a Masterpiece line for the Braves. But it only lasted long enough to get King Exkaiser and Dragon Kaiser.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:48 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

I did not know this...I wonder if they have made a MP Genesic GaoGaiGar or a King J-Der J Phoenix accessory...Takara will own my soul at this rate.

You'll have to look in Bandai's direction as they own the Brave anime designs (thanks to Sunrise belonging to Bandai now), and the options are quite a few. Right now, the non-transforming Super Robot Chogokin series has a good part of the GGG line-up, including Genesic GaoGaiGar, as well as some other Brave series robots. As for transforming figures, the Brave Gokin series has GaoGaiGar (I'd suggest looking for v2 as it fixes some faults of the original), Genesic and GaoFighGar, but those are slightly older figures and more finnicky, not really Soul of Chogokin material.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:54 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

I did not know this...I wonder if they have made a MP Genesic GaoGaiGar or a King J-Der J Phoenix accessory...Takara will own my soul at this rate.

You'll have to look in Bandai's direction as they own the Brave anime designs (thanks to Sunrise belonging to Bandai now), and the options are quite a few. Right now, the non-transforming Super Robot Chogokin series has a good part of the GGG line-up, including Genesic GaoGaiGar, as well as some other Brave series robots. As for transforming figures, the Brave Gokin series has GaoGaiGar (I'd suggest looking for v2 as it fixes some faults of the original), Genesic and GaoFighGar, but those are slightly older figures and more finnicky, not really Soul of Chogokin material.

Don't Takara have any ownership over the material? They created it after all.

Sigh, and there was me hoping we'd get updated, super-articulated and fully transforming versions of the Symmetrical Docking teams. I can dream...

(Although for 90s toys, the original Takara figures are actually incredible from what I've seen. Unfortunately they're also very rare.)

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:58 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

I did not know this...I wonder if they have made a MP Genesic GaoGaiGar or a King J-Der J Phoenix accessory...Takara will own my soul at this rate.

You'll have to look in Bandai's direction as they own the Brave anime designs (thanks to Sunrise belonging to Bandai now), and the options are quite a few. Right now, the non-transforming Super Robot Chogokin series has a good part of the GGG line-up, including Genesic GaoGaiGar, as well as some other Brave series robots. As for transforming figures, the Brave Gokin series has GaoGaiGar (I'd suggest looking for v2 as it fixes some faults of the original), Genesic and GaoFighGar, but those are slightly older figures and more finnicky, not really Soul of Chogokin material.

Don't Takara have any ownership over the material? They created it after all.

If anything, only the original Brave series molds. The animation and original character design was done by Sunrise, and well, Bandai owns those now. Hope you're not against playing for the other team if need be.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:50 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I want this...Wonder if the sword sheaths the same way as in victory. Still would like to know if there's a victory Leo on the way.

We'll know for sure once we see connectors attached to Saber's feet and back

It's been awhile since I've played with mine so don't hold me to this but I think Star Saber didn't have any visual connection points on it since Lio clipped on using existing pegs and holes and such.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:32 pm

Scroponok is almost $500. Yikes!! I might as well buy a 3P Scorpy that transforms for that price.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:32 pm

Yeah... just gimme a release date and price, and I'll start saving. Star Saber is definitely among my top three Autobots and probably part of the top ten Transformers in general, so I'm very pleased to see that he seems to be turning out very well. ;)^

I wouldn't mind there being backwards-compatibility with the original Victory Victory Leo, but it's not something I desperately need for it to have. Though I would consider a third party Victory Leo of equal size, stature, and quality.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:58 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Not at all familiar with the Japanese-exclusive cartoons (Headmasters, Zone, Victory etc) but that looks pretty sweet.

I know Takara does Masterpiece Brave toys as well...I need to watch GaoGaiGar so I have an excuse to buy them. I can imagine they'd go very well together with this guy (heck, the "symmetrical docking" twins like HyoRyu and EnRyu look transformer-y anyway).

I did not know this...I wonder if they have made a MP Genesic GaoGaiGar or a King J-Der J Phoenix accessory...Takara will own my soul at this rate.

You'll have to look in Bandai's direction as they own the Brave anime designs (thanks to Sunrise belonging to Bandai now), and the options are quite a few. Right now, the non-transforming Super Robot Chogokin series has a good part of the GGG line-up, including Genesic GaoGaiGar, as well as some other Brave series robots. As for transforming figures, the Brave Gokin series has GaoGaiGar (I'd suggest looking for v2 as it fixes some faults of the original), Genesic and GaoFighGar, but those are slightly older figures and more finnicky, not really Soul of Chogokin material.

Don't Takara have any ownership over the material? They created it after all.

If anything, only the original Brave series molds. The animation and original character design was done by Sunrise, and well, Bandai owns those now. Hope you're not against playing for the other team if need be.

I go where the toys are, I think it was the brave chokin line I was looking at before. Though the Soul of Chogokin line is also nice though far more expensive to complete GGG's arsenal (the key to victory sets)