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Tony Soprano is dead theory gains credence according to HBO

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Tony Soprano is dead theory gains credence according to HBO

Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:49 am

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For those Sopranos fans that still think Tony lives HBO says that there are definite clues to Tony's demise.

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Tony Soprano is dead theory gains credence
In one episode, Bobby described being killed as ‘everything just goes black’
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"Sopranos" creator David Chase, left, walks away from actor James Gandolfini during production of the series in Kearny, N.J., March 21. Fans are starting to believe that Tony Soprano was whacked in the finale. And they may be right.

LOS ANGELES - Fans of “The Sopranos” are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.

One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a “legitimate” hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.

“While he won’t say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who’ve guessed have come closer than others,” HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.

“There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on,” Schaffer said.

Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, “Anyone who wants to watch it, it’s all there.”

In the final moments of Sunday’s concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, “Don’t Stop Believing,” blares from a juke box.

Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a “Members Only” jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant’s entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene — with no picture or sound for 10 seconds — until the credits roll silently.

Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up “whacked” or whether his sordid life went on as usual.

The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America’s greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.

The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.

“At the end, you probably don’t hear anything, everything just goes black,” Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.

That scene is recalled briefly in a flashback played at the end of the penultimate “Sopranos” episode, as Tony is lying in the darkened room of a safehouse clutching a machine gun to his chest in the midst of a mob war.

“I think that is one of the most legitimate things to look at,” Schaffer said when asked about theories that the Bobby Bacala flashback was meant to foreshadow Tony’s death.

Moreover, he said the man in the “Members Only” jacket could be interpreted as a symbolic reference to membership in the mob. “Members Only” also was the title of the episode in which Tony’s demented Uncle Junior shoots him in the gut.

The “Members Only” guy was played by the owner of a real-life pizza parlor, Paolo Colandrea. Schaffer denied reports that Colandrea had appeared earlier in the series as the nephew of Tony’s New York gang rival, or that there ever was such a character. He also dismissed reports that Chase had filmed more than one ending to the finale.


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Postby Loki120 » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:31 am

Definately an interesting ending, and one left for interpretation which is exactly what one would expect from a show like this. How better to go out than create a controversy which last longer than the actual finale? Which gains more press, actually seeing Tony killed and the show ending, or ending with something vague and causing even more people to talk about it? They knew what they were doing. :D
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:53 am

Bobby could hear the shooting he didn't die automatically

I'm still up in the air with Tony

I guess its because I didn't want to see him dead
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:55 am

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Wheeljack35 wrote:Bobby could hear the shooting he didn't die automatically

I'm still up in the air with Tony

I guess its because I didn't want to see him dead


I don't want to see him dead either.
It did not go black on Bobby because he is not the main character.. Not to mention if they did the blackout to Bobby it would have spoiled the ending for Tony.
Also, Bobby was still alive when they were shooting him.
I would think that Tony got popped in the head straight off.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:06 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:I would think that Tony got popped in the head straight off.


That was my thinking if he went it would of been the head

Geez it was gruesome what happened to Phil
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:10 pm

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Wheeljack35 wrote:
Cyber Bishop wrote:I would think that Tony got popped in the head straight off.


That was my thinking if he went it would of been the head

Geez it was gruesome what happened to Phil


I know.. The way those guys were reacting was funny too.
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Postby NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:01 pm

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You know what?

All this reaching, and I do mean reaching for an ending is getting pretty damn funny.

Know what happened?

The show ended, and it ended badly. As badly as every season since season 3 ended.

Honestly anybody recall Junior singing? Or The Chrismas ending?

There is no looking beyond this ending, the show ended and these characters lives continue and the bottom line is you and I get jipped outta of seeing it.

And that stinks.

As for this Tony died theory there's an old saying people toss about on the Star Trek boards 'If it ain't on screen, it ain't cannon'.

Meaning if you didn't see it, it didn't happen.

Lords knows why, but after all this 'Tony is Dead' speculation I watched the episode again, and you know what I see?

Disappoint fans reading something into a disappointing end to a dissappointing series that just isn't there, to justify the crap they just watched.
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:11 am

I'm still wondering why that cat was staring at Chris's picture and purring
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