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[shajaki]

Again.... still impressed, but I'm surprised people aren't grabbing their torches and pitch forks over his backpack...

[Hellscream9999]

Please support Takara by purchasing this item at PO release prices and not wait for them to go on sale! Takara's financial situation is quite bleak with them always in the red... make MP Dinobot worth their effort and give them a financial blowout by making him a successful MP release unlike poor old Tracks!

If Takara falls, we don't get our plastic ABS PVC crack anymore

I'm incredibly faithful to HasTak, but come on. Everyone's beef with this pricepoint is completely legitimate and justified. He shouldn't cost any more than Ironhide or Ratchet. And while I personally liked MP Tracks, peoples beefs with it were also legitimate.

But even though he's priced high, I bet there's enough people like me out there to support it. And let's not fool ourselves, Dinobot is probably the most beloved TF character outside of G1, and easily in the top 10 of all time. Mark my words, he will sell out.

Alright, I've been thinking a lot about this, and now that I've had some time to scope out some pics, I think that, like MP 36, this price-point might be a bit more fair than we're willing to admit.

First of all, have you seen this guy? He's made up almost entirely of panels - that are also pinned together, that's a huge parts-count, a lot of molds, and a ton of time on the assembly line, that's a lot of man hours spent designing and qc-ing him, then there's the electronics and his size, not to mention his complex paint job - which looks gorgeous. I mean, he's so complex, his beast mode feet swap places with his bot mode hands and conceal themselves in his biceps, and he still has this much articulation for gods sake! His torso might be weirdly deep, but this is truly a master-craft of engineering.

[Ironhidensh]

My pitchfork is still cooling off from Megatron.........

[Hellscream9999]

Again.... still impressed, but I'm surprised people aren't grabbing their torches and pitch forks over his backpack...

Yeah, unfortunately there's only so much kibble you can stuff into his body to mimic his onscreen appearance

[Evil Eye]

Oh boy. That dino mode is like MP-36's back as an entire velociraptor. Now to be fair on Takara, Dinobot's onscreen transformation is literally impossible, and engineering it must have been a nightmare. I am also impressed at how accurate it is and how articulated both modes are, but...I dunno. At that price I just can't justify it. Plus, whilst I realize this is utter heresy, I've never been a fan of the organic/"furry" BW Maximal designs, even though I love the characters and adore the show. Like, I love the Predacons and I adore the Transmetal designs on both sides, but I just don't like the "realistic" DOHOHOHOHO beast modes that much to justify buying MPs of them. Espeically not £200+ MPs.

THAT SAID, if they do an MP of Blackarachnia I will buy the everloving slag out of it. For one, she's my favourite character (which in a show with as stellar a cast as BW is damn impressive), for another I've met Venus Terzo, who is absolutely lovely, and finally I actually really like her design, as silly as it was (those claws though, homina homina). Plus, being a massive spider as opposed to a real-world vehicle, she can fit in with basically any display and not stick out scale wise. Burgeoning MP collection? Sure, she's from the same continuity anyway so why not. Mismatched disparate CHUG collection? Yep, I see no problem, even (especially) if she's gigantic, a massive spider that dwarfs tanks would be awesome. Legends? Well, maybe that's pushing it a bit, unless whoever she takes an interest in has a thing for giantesses.

Hot, poisonous and deadly spider-waifu must be mine.

[Hellscream9999]

THAT SAID, if they do an MP of Blackarachnia I will buy the everloving slag out of it. For one, she's my favourite character (which in a show with as stellar a cast as BW is damn impressive), for another I've met Venus Terzo, who is absolutely lovely, and finally I actually really like her design, as silly as it was (those claws though, homina homina). Plus, being a massive spider as opposed to a real-world vehicle, she can fit in with basically any display and not stick out scale wise. Burgeoning MP collection? Sure, she's from the same continuity anyway so why not. Mismatched disparate CHUG collection? Yep, I see no problem, even (especially) if she's gigantic, a massive spider that dwarfs tanks would be awesome. Legends? Well, maybe that's pushing it a bit, unless whoever she takes an interest in has a thing for giantesses.

Hot, poisonous and deadly spider-waifu must be mine.

Plus, she'd be relatively simple to engineer, I just hope they stay away from tackling any of the impossible ones (terrorsaur, waspinator) for now and focus on the do-able ones. There's already a great template for rhinox and rattrap, Meg's would be super easy, and scoponk could just be an update of the original toy with better proportions - easy...

[wilcosu35]

I actually ordered 2 this morning, 1 for a friend and 1 for myself. From HLJ so payment's not due until he comes out.

[shajaki]

Another back shot.

[Hellscream9999]

Another back shot.

Jeez, even the shield is made up of a ton of moving parts, so it's still fully poseable in beast mode, talk about over-the-top

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Another back shot.

All the backshots actually look pretty good! He looks good from several angles

[galvatron00]

I see absolutely no problem with the backpack, it's the equivalent of seekers with wings on their back! Ultra clean. AND this seems to be a marvel of engineering. Maybe I need to re-watch Beast Wars to get hype and then sell off a bunch of stuff to find money to buy him.

[Counterpunch]

as i expected, looks meh.

What do you mean, meh? You're not from the Emoji movie, are you?

Masterpiece Dinobot looks great ... except for the glaring "hole" near his hips in Velociraptor mode. Other than that, he looks fantastic.

I would have preferred a smaller version of him though. While I know he was sometimes shown as being much taller than the other Maximals, I think him being just a little bit taller instead of a lot taller would have been better. The group shot picture is kind of hard to tell what's going on exactly because of the camera angle pointing upward and Optimus Primal being in an action pose.

He is big...

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Just one of those things that is easy to over look. Like how Springer was gigantic...

[Emerje]

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/review?scode=FIGURE-034713&page=

21340Y. Cheaper by 8000Y from retail. No Issue whether the sales tax is not included whatnot.........still cheaper! CHEAPER!

Well, I see you still don't understand that exceedingly simple point I was making many months ago about AmiAmi and sales tax even though everyone else got it. Whatever, keep taking what you think are cheap jabs at me while proving your ignorance, I'm fine with that.

As for Dinobot's backpack, I'm more impressed they were able to cram so much inside him and that's all we got. I was more concerned about the back of his tail weapon looking like the Universe figure's, but it looks like they did a good job of blending it in.

Emerje

[Sabrblade]

Plus, whilst I realize this is utter heresy, I've never been a fan of the organic/"furry" BW Maximal designs, even though I love the characters and adore the show

Good thing they never actually looked "furry" in the show, then. Everyone who wasn't a scaly reptile looked like their skin was made out either clay or rubber.

[Emerje]

Plus, she'd be relatively simple to engineer, I just hope they stay away from tackling any of the impossible ones (terrorsaur, waspinator) for now and focus on the do-able ones.

Terrorsaur would be a challenge, but I think there are some creative solutions that could make him work. Waspinator should be fairly easy, the Deluxe Generations figure is a good starting point, but with an even more complex transformation and no flapping wing gimmick.

Emerje

[Captmotor]

The price point on this one is upsetting but as has been stated, you are getting a whole lot of bang for your buck.

It is just such a well done looking figure from the pics that I couldn't pass this one up. plus the sheer fear of it selling out and not being able to get it at all.

I guess I will be packing my lunch for the next few months to set aside for this guy.

[Hellscream9999]

Plus, she'd be relatively simple to engineer, I just hope they stay away from tackling any of the impossible ones (terrorsaur, waspinator) for now and focus on the do-able ones.

Terrorsaur would be a challenge, but I think there are some creative solutions that could make him work. Waspinator should be fairly easy, the Deluxe Generations figure is a good starting point, but with an even more complex transformation and no flapping wing gimmick.

Emerje

Terrorsaur (to be in scale in bot mode with everyone else) would be almost 100% impossible, because his beast mode is so scrawny and the wings are so large, I just don't think it can be done to the standard that TT is trying to set with the bw mp's, and I think TT's efforts would be best served rolling out a MP BW Megs (omg, if he's in scale with primal, he'll be huge )

[fenrir72]

Cheap is cheap! However you try to yoga it no need to split hairs why an item is cheap, a high podiatric diet is quite feeling anyway.

As for the price range....the R and D is the great mucho eater of the cost. Not to mention the materials (wished Takara's had ditched the electronics though).

And Takara would probably need to sell at least 4000 units to recoup the cost ( just like the upcoming Grand Maximus release). This part is relevant though as we have some idea on the real financial status of the company that does the heavy lifting providing us fans with our plastic crack.

Look at what happened to the JP company CMS? All gone and their pricing was also waaaaaaaaaay out there.

I'm gonna offset the cost on my PO with the credits I'm accumulating at Amiami(with my Arcadia SDF-1 coming among others 8 months from now)

[william-james88]

Plus, she'd be relatively simple to engineer, I just hope they stay away from tackling any of the impossible ones (terrorsaur, waspinator) for now and focus on the do-able ones.

Terrorsaur would be a challenge, but I think there are some creative solutions that could make him work. Waspinator should be fairly easy, the Deluxe Generations figure is a good starting point, but with an even more complex transformation and no flapping wing gimmick.

Emerje

Yeah, I dont see how waspinator would be hard.

[Ultra Markus]

i want to see how tall he is compared to mp10

[william-james88]

i want to see how tall he is compared to mp10

yeah where is the shot of them shaking hands?

And the shot of him fitting in MP 10's trailer, get on it Takara !!!

[Emerje]

Terrorsaur (to be in scale in bot mode with everyone else) would be almost 100% impossible, because his beast mode is so scrawny and the wings are so large, I just don't think it can be done to the standard that TT is trying to set with the bw mp's

What I'm thinking is tha they might have make his alt mode just a little out of scale to give them some "meat" to work with. It might be possible to do some extreme wing origami to form part of the arms since they'd have to get the tiny wings onto them somehow and there isn't enough space to fake it. I was thinking that rather than hiding the pteranodon head they could use it to help fill out the legs instead. If done wrong he might end up fragile and full of panels, but the same can be said for Dinobot and Cheetor.

Cheap is cheap! However you try to yoga it no need to split hairs why an item is cheap, a high podiatric diet is quite feeling anyway.

I really wish you'd drop this! Nobody is splitting hairs and my foot is not in my mouth. Every time you say "cheap" you just prove that you aren't capable of understanding the point I was making all that time ago. I'll say it again for the nth time: THE PRICE WAS NEVER MY POINT! Get it through your thick head and stop HARASSING ME about it every time I bring up AmiAmi. Burn told you once before to drop it so drop it. Next time I see you make a post like this I'm going to make a formal complaint against you so cut it out, you're supposed to be an adult so act like it.

Emerje

[william-james88]

Get it through your thick head and stop HARASSING ME about it every time I bring up AmiAmi. Burn told you once before to drop it so drop it. Next time I see you make a post like this I'm going to make a formal complaint against you so cut it out, you're supposed to be an adult so act like it.

Emerje

You can do what I did and simply add him to your foes list on your site, it will put him on a permanent ignore so you no longer need to be frustrated with posts. It also wont derail the thread. I am not recommending it, just stating the possibility.

[Emerje]

Get it through your thick head and stop HARASSING ME about it every time I bring up AmiAmi. Burn told you once before to drop it so drop it. Next time I see you make a post like this I'm going to make a formal complaint against you so cut it out, you're supposed to be an adult so act like it.

Emerje

You can do what I did and simply add him to your foes list on your site, it will put him on a permanent ignore so you no longer need to be frustrated with posts. It also wont derail the thread. I am not recommending it, just stating the possibility.

Oh, I know, but I also know that he can still see my posts even if I can't see his so I'd like to be able defend myself when needed since he tends to get hostile when replying to my posts for whatever reason.

Emerje

[william-james88]

Get it through your thick head and stop HARASSING ME about it every time I bring up AmiAmi. Burn told you once before to drop it so drop it. Next time I see you make a post like this I'm going to make a formal complaint against you so cut it out, you're supposed to be an adult so act like it.

Emerje

You can do what I did and simply add him to your foes list on your site, it will put him on a permanent ignore so you no longer need to be frustrated with posts. It also wont derail the thread. I am not recommending it, just stating the possibility.

Oh, I know, but I also know that he can still see my posts even if I can't see his so I'd like to be able defend myself when needed since he tends to get hostile when replying to my posts for whatever reason.

Emerje

But there is no point in him replying when he knows you wont be able to see his posts. he hasnt replied to my posts much since then since he knows its pointless. By replying to him you are always inviting more confrontation.