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I was thinking, with the Marvel Crossovers toys, the Marvel Transformers comics, and Transformers Animated haveing human Supervillains and characters modeled after members of the Avengers what would take to get a real crossover made?

What I mean is how many Superheroes or Villains actully have vehicles? Or Maybe characters with animal based names? Basically a new universe for Transformers and Marvel character where when they first come to earth they end up scanning the vehicles and/or beast mode of their hero partner.

Wrong universe but for lack of a better example someone could thearetically be a tripple changer and transfrom from Robot, to Bat, to Batmobile and work primarily with Batman.

Problem is all the Superheroes seem to deal with Marvel Transformers crossovers and I'm not sure if there are any Super Vehicles in the Marvel universe other than the X-Jet.

The X-Men have the blackbird
The Fantastic Four have the Fantastic Car(I think that's its name)
Nick Fury has a crap load of SHIELD vehicles
Ghost Rider has the Hell Cycle
Johnny Blaze has a kick ass motorcycle


That's all I can think of at the moment, but it would be pretty awesome if there was an all out war between the Marvel Heroes and Autobots vs the Villains and Decepticons

original sin wrote:Ghost Rider has the Hell Cycle
Johnny Blaze has a kick ass motorcycle

Um... they're the same person and the same motorcylce.

Anyway, still not really alot of vehicles.

Saber Prime wrote:

original sin wrote:Ghost Rider has the Hell Cycle
Johnny Blaze has a kick ass motorcycle

Um... they're the same person and the same motorcylce.

Anyway, still not really alot of vehicles.

They're distinctly different however.

Yes, Johnny Blaze is Ghost Rider, though one has a human appearance, the other has a flaming skull for a head.

Johnny Blaze's motorcycle changes into the Hell Cycle however they are both VERY different.

No reason why neither can't be used.

But seeing as there's a lack of vehicles in the comic world, there shouldn't be any crossovers.

Ever.

Spider-Man had the SPIDER-CAR and a motorcycle!

Saber Prime wrote:

original sin wrote:Ghost Rider has the Hell Cycle
Johnny Blaze has a kick ass motorcycle

Um... they're the same person and the same motorcylce.

Anyway, still not really alot of vehicles.

Um... There was a time when Johnny WASN'T the Ghost Rider you know? Danny Ketch ring a bell? Danny and Johnny teamed up a few times at least and Johnny rode a motorcycle while Danny(as Ghost Rider) rode the Hell Cycle. Johnny used a shotgun that shot hellfire. It was bad ass

Dead Metal wrote:Spider-Man had the SPIDER-CAR and a motorcycle!

As far as I know thoughs vehicles have never appeared in any Spider-man continuity and have only exsisted as a way for toy companys to make more money.

Saber Prime wrote:As far as I know thoughs vehicles have never appeared in any Spider-man continuity and have only exsisted as a way for toy companys to make more money.

Let's go over to Dr Cox for his comment on Saber Prime's assertion:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY
Thank you, Dr Cox.

Google is your friend, Saber.

I would love to see a GOOD Marvel-Transformers crossover because the Transformers-Avengers comic series sucks...
Some ideas:
-Reflector being P.Parker's camera(the one he uses for Daily Bugle as a photgrapher)& working as a Decepticons' spy
-Perceptor working with Mr Fantastic on advanced scientific research
-Unicron fighting Galactus-the winner devours Earth!

Saber Prime wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Spider-Man had the SPIDER-CAR and a motorcycle!

As far as I know thoughs vehicles have never appeared in any Spider-man continuity and have only exsisted as a way for toy companys to make more money.

Heck, the current Wolverine story arc has Wolverine and Hawkeye driving across the country in the Spider-Buggy.

DIDICOS wrote:-Unicron fighting Galactus-the winner devours Earth!

How about Unicron with a new alt mode. Galactus' space ship. And Galvatron somehow turning into the Silver Surfer's board. (Heay they had a skate board in armada, sure it was bulky but that's probly the only way you could get something flat to transform into a robot without the robot being flat.)

Expanding on the Ghost Rider Transformers

A they could remold Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle into Danny Ketch's Hell Cycle, which does look different from Johnny Blaze's Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle. then they could do another variation and make Vengeance!!!

So theoretically they could have

Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Johnny Blaze)
Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Daniel Ketch)
Johnny Blaze/Motorcycle with flaming wheels(post Ghost Rider days)
Vengeance/Hell Cycle

Those would be the four coolest motorcycle Transformers ever!!

Saber Prime wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Spider-Man had the SPIDER-CAR and a motorcycle!

As far as I know thoughs vehicles have never appeared in any Spider-man continuity and have only exsisted as a way for toy companys to make more money.

happy now? happy birth day.

Saber Prime wrote:

original sin wrote:Ghost Rider has the Hell Cycle
Johnny Blaze has a kick ass motorcycle

Um... they're the same person and the same motorcylce.

Anyway, still not really alot of vehicles.

Johnny Blaze hasnt always been the Ghost Rider nor was he the only one to ride a motorcycle..

Captain America also has or has had a motorcycle and a van.The Avengers have the Quin Jets.

The Punisher had a van.

Spiderman not only had the buggy and the motorcycle thats been mentioned but he also had a "Spider-Van" althu it was mainly used to transport the motorcycle..

And they all have been part of comic continuity at one time or the other.

original sin wrote:Expanding on the Ghost Rider Transformers

A they could remold Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle into Danny Ketch's Hell Cycle, which does look different from Johnny Blaze's Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle. then they could do another variation and make Vengeance!!!

So theoretically they could have

Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Johnny Blaze)
Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Daniel Ketch)
Johnny Blaze/Motorcycle with flaming wheels(post Ghost Rider days)
Vengeance/Hell Cycle

Those would be the four coolest motorcycle Transformers ever!!

What about the Ghost Rider HORSE from the movie? Not all Transformers need to be vehicles.

Saber Prime wrote:

original sin wrote:Expanding on the Ghost Rider Transformers

A they could remold Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle into Danny Ketch's Hell Cycle, which does look different from Johnny Blaze's Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle. then they could do another variation and make Vengeance!!!

So theoretically they could have

Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Johnny Blaze)
Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Daniel Ketch)
Johnny Blaze/Motorcycle with flaming wheels(post Ghost Rider days)
Vengeance/Hell Cycle

Those would be the four coolest motorcycle Transformers ever!!

What about the Ghost Rider HORSE from the movie? Not all Transformers need to be vehicles.

That would be cool....and they could repaint ithe horse, add wings, and give it to the Black Knight or Valkarie.

Transformers Animated/Super Robot Monkey Tean Hyperforce Go!

I really want a deadpool crossover, but what should he become? I think a motorcycle is alittle played out, but what else xould he become? and if i'm gonna do a motorcycle i might as well customize spiderman.

Deadpool would turn into a wrecking ball crane, so he can smash the fourth wall.

Saber Prime wrote:

original sin wrote:Expanding on the Ghost Rider Transformers

A they could remold Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle into Danny Ketch's Hell Cycle, which does look different from Johnny Blaze's Ghost Rider's Hell Cycle. then they could do another variation and make Vengeance!!!

So theoretically they could have

Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Johnny Blaze)
Ghost Rider/Hell Cycle(Daniel Ketch)
Johnny Blaze/Motorcycle with flaming wheels(post Ghost Rider days)
Vengeance/Hell Cycle

Those would be the four coolest motorcycle Transformers ever!!

A few things on the comic book history of Ghost Rider there are at least 4 known different Ghost Riders

The first one was a Westeren character that debuted in the 1950s when Marvel was called Atlas Comics he had no super-powers that I know of.

Johnny Blaze was the second Ghost Rider and he debuted in 1970s.

Danny Ketch was the third Ghost Rider who debuted in the 1990s.

Ghost Rider 2099 was the fourth Ghost Rider who also debuted in the 90s as part of Marvel's 2099 Universe.



What about the Ghost Rider HORSE from the movie? Not all Transformers need to be vehicles.

Sledge wrote:Deadpool would turn into a wrecking ball crane, so he can smash the fourth wall.

Sweet.

- but for a toy that they think would sell, how about a quad-bike for Deady?