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which do you think is best, ps3 or xbox 360 and why?

earltron wrote:which do you think is best, ps3 or xbox 360 and why?

I think I speak for all here when I say 360.
It's just as good as the ps3, is cheaper and has a bigger game library. Pretty much every ps3 exclusive is coming to the 360 anyway.

I have too agree as of right now the 360 is better more games and I think the online service is better even though we have to pay. I may get a ps3 but it won't be for a few years and only if they get better games that doesn't come out for the 360.

The only reason someone should get a PS3 instead of a 360 is if you want a cheap Blu-Ray player. The Xbox 360 just has a better library and online service.

RatchetMD wrote:The only reason someone should get a PS3 instead of a 360 is if you want a cheap Blu-Ray player. The Xbox 360 just has a better library and online service.

strangly thats what my housemates did, now we have both and i have to say that i dont think theres much difference between the two graphics wise, we've got both hooked up to a hdtv as well, 360 edges it for me becasue of the following things....

1) the ps3 pads feel light and cheap, no vibe function lightens them up so much, but on top of that the plastic feels i dunno, cheap

2)price, until ps3 comes down its still gonna lose out

3)sixaxis, the movement thing while a nice idea is hardly original now and seems like sony is doing to much following esepcially since the rumor started that the psp lite will be touch screen as well

anyway thats my opionion on the matter, whos next??

360 is superior due to more powerful hardware (and before you fanboys start your usuall ""OMG BUT JOO IS WRONG COS TEH PS3 IS SOOO POWERFUL IT PWNZ 360!" you are wrong. Look up the side-by-side technical comparisons of each system on IGN and you will find that the 360 is more than equel to the PS3, and has the PS3 completely licked in certain very important areas), Xbox-live, cheaper hardware, cheaper software and infinately better games and exclusives.

The PS3 is a waste of money, no rumble, blu-ray is an overkill, it has no games and its online component sucks and it costs a fortune.

360 is best.

wow, no counter-arguements. all i have to do is agree, not even prove anything that much.

PS3 80gig hardrive=$600
X360 Elite 120gig hardrive=$500. better yet, the standard $300 360 and buy the separate 120gig hardrive for another $80-100.
consumer's choice? 360.

PS3 has blu-ray. who cares, it doens't make a visual difference in the slightest. it also doesn't have any good dvds. i hear it holds more capacity to do things in games...that, i have yet to see.

the games make the console, in this case the 360 wins hands down between its current games and upcomming titles.

In the long-run, if the PS3 continues for another generation or so (given the power it has, as developers have only been able to extract graphics utilizing 2 out of the 8 cell-processors), then it will emerge still capable of competing against the next-gen consoles (and by next-gen, I mean the next line of consoles in the 8th gen.)

Likewise I see the 360 as the better deal. But everyone knows that the Wii pwns all

Since the ripoff of the PS2 console I'm pro Xbox and Xbox for my eye is the best, has the better games, and the controller is just great in all gamegenre. Even if you got very little hands like me.
Okay the Xbox 360 make much noise, but hey I can turn me TV much louder.
And a great plus for the Xbox 360 is also his extern HDD, if you like to go by a friend or just take it off when there a bad weather with lightnings sure I take the plug off all my stuff off but sure is sure.

wow lol i guess u guys like the Xbox.

Now I'm all for the PS3, but having originally spent so much on the PS2 when it first came out (£410 in 2000) and seeing the price drop so much a year or two later (to a meager £120) I've decided to wait till the PS3 drops in price before i buy it (my DS will fill the gap in the meantime .)

Owning a PS2 has made me a great fan of titles such as Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, Gran turismo, Final fantasy, shadow of the colossus etc so I''m exited at how these titles will turn out on the PS3, MGS4 is just pure awesomeness and tekken 6 (with online play ) blows me away (and they're exclusives i think, not sure though).

Now my major beef with the Xbox 360 is that damn awkward controller, wtf is up with it? many of my friends have an xbox and now 360 but i can't adapt to that damn controller, i could handle the dreamcast, N64 and gamecube controllers but wtf, the D pad gets in the way, and its a rubbish D pad anyway. I was a master of dead or alive 2 on the PS2 and the visuals on DOA3 on the xbox were superb but i couldn't pull the damn moves off.

I'm also not a fan of First person shooters and other shooters because i've played them to death on numerous different consoles starting with doom all the way through goldeneye and timesplitters 3. I'm just sick of em and its specifically this genre that the Xbox does well, what games are good? Halo? Gears of war? I've played both and got bored straight away, i don't get all the hype...

Xbox also slows down too much, played MGS2 on xbox, the rain made it slow down... played GUITAR HERO 2 on 360 and it slowed down (wtf) it has to many issues, over heating being the major one.

people can't compare 360 and PS3 now because the PS3 hasn't even been out that long and think of the transition between tekken tag (launch title) and tekken 5 (freaking awesome)once developers get the hang of the hardware we'll see some incredible stuff.

PS3 wins for me, only thing stopping me buying one is the price. I've seen the 360, seen what it can and it doesn't impress me. Thats all.

0ctane wrote:wow lol i guess u guys like the Xbox.

Now I'm all for the PS3, but having originally spent so much on the PS2 when it first came out (£410 in 2000) and seeing the price drop so much a year or two later (to a meager £120) I've decided to wait till the PS3 drops in price before i buy it (my DS will fill the gap in the meantime .)

Owning a PS2 has made me a great fan of titles such as Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, Gran turismo, Final fantasy, shadow of the colossus etc so I''m exited at how these titles will turn out on the PS3, MGS4 is just pure awesomeness and tekken 6 (with online play ) blows me away (and they're exclusives i think, not sure though).

Now my major beef with the Xbox 360 is that damn awkward controller, wtf is up with it? many of my friends have an xbox and now 360 but i can't adapt to that damn controller, i could handle the dreamcast, N64 and gamecube controllers but wtf, the D pad gets in the way, and its a rubbish D pad anyway. I was a master of dead or alive 2 on the PS2 and the visuals on DOA3 on the xbox were superb but i couldn't pull the damn moves off.

I'm also not a fan of First person shooters and other shooters because i've played them to death on numerous different consoles starting with doom all the way through goldeneye and timesplitters 3. I'm just sick of em and its specifically this genre that the Xbox does well, what games are good? Halo? Gears of war? I've played both and got bored straight away, i don't get all the hype...

Xbox also slows down too much, played MGS2 on xbox, the rain made it slow down... played GUITAR HERO 2 on 360 and it slowed down (wtf) it has to many issues, over heating being the major one.

people can't compare 360 and PS3 now because the PS3 hasn't even been out that long and think of the transition between tekken tag (launch title) and tekken 5 (freaking awesome)once developers get the hang of the hardware we'll see some incredible stuff.

PS3 wins for me, only thing stopping me buying one is the price. I've seen the 360, seen what it can and it doesn't impress me. Thats all.

8 vs 1, i would say with stats like that all over the world, most people would disagree with you.

Problem is.. you cant say "stats like 8 vs. 1" is all over the world.

And I agree.. I person suck ass when it comes to play first person shooters on consoles, which is basically what xbox is good for. I play FPS's on my PC.. so for actual good console experiences, I'm currently running with my PS2, and generally speaking, PS3 will be next.

And one guy argued that you could get a $300 Xbox and upgrade the harddrive? You can do the same with PS3. $500 for the 60gig model, then upgrade the harddrive. Plus, people talk about playstation fankids mindlessly siding with PS3 without knowing realistic information? Those same people who talk about PS fankids are doing the same thing. You can't put down blu-ray DVDs because of it's lame titles, when HDdvds have pretty much the same titles; with the exception that blu-ray actually has more space, which means movies can have a higher bitrate, making them even higher quality, as well as for games, being able to be graphically more advanced as well as generally having more content.

Plus there's the fact that no PS3 game out even manages to push PS3 to half it's limits. And when it comes to game selection, though backward compatibility, PS3 has no competition.

Also, PS3 makes a better media center, as far as non-gaming goes. X360 needs to be modded to put extra content on the harddrive and such. PS3 is out-of-the-box compatible with USB harddrives/flash drives, and you can load movies and music to the internal PS3 harddrive; as well as download a selection of PS1 and some PS2 games for free, to your harddrive and play from there. Without any modifications necessary.

PS3 may be expensive now, but considering how much money you'll have to put into modding and accessories for X360 to have the exact same functionality of PS3, and considering how long PS3 will be a top-competing system, X360 may be more popular now, but it'll go outdated long before PS3.

And once the price for PS3 drops a bit more, and we get trademark titles like Final Fantasy, and the Samurai/Dynasty Warriors games(excluding the lame Dynasty Warriors: Gundam), the system's popularity will pick up ALOT.

yeah I know, but PS3 is good for the games I like. To tell the truth i don't really like Sony as a company because they have screwed Europe over time and again (no price drop...wtf...). I just support the developers that make games for the playstation.

Not too interested in the 360 titles as yet. plus PS controllers win, I'm not to fussed about the rumble pad being left out because honestly it annoyed me. I usually turn rumble off on the games I play. Just my opinion I had to root for the underdog after it was loosing so miserably lol.

Edit: Just saw the above post. You make some fine points dude. I also heard that the developers were having trouble with the 360 version of GTA4, saying that theres not enough room to fit the game properly onto it so some stuff is gonna be left out.

Actually i CAN say "8 vs 1 all over the world" as that is the general opinion of gamers these days. Most people hate the PS3, and think it sucks because of its lack of games, price point, lame online play and useless gimmicks.

The 360 at least has good and exclusive games, and no they arent all FPS games, to make such a claim is just pure stupidity and fanboyish ignorance.

Lets look at the facts here:

PS3 ISNT a huge step up from the 360, both systems are technically the same as each other, 360 is even more powerful than the PS3 in many areas. So that right there makes the 360 a better system already due to its lower price point.

Now games: PS3 has had two half-decent exlusive games since launch, all the rest have been ports of 360 and PC games AND said ports dont even run as wlel on the PS3 as they did on the 360 and PC. The only "exclusives" the PS3 has left that are worth mentioning is MGS4 and as much as i love MGS, it isnt a game thats worth spending over £400 on!

Now Blu-Ray: Simply put, we dont need it. Why should we have to be forced to pay for a new media type that we do not want nor need? At least the 360 offers people the choice to upgrade to HD-DVD if they wish, and arent forced to pay out of their noses for it right from the get go.

Six-axis: A disaster if i ever saw one, and a total rip off of Nintendos stupid wii. No rumble=flat, dull gaming experiances. How can you possibly enjoy a game as much anymore without a rumble feature?

And this lame arguement about "needing" the extra space on a blu-ray disc is bullshit too, because even now developers still dont use up all the space on DVD/HD DVD discs, and probably wont for a good 3 or 4 years to go by which time MS and Sony (if they dont go bankrupt before then) will have new systems out anyway.

And lets not forget online play. The PS3's online is free, but it sucks ass. At least with xbox live you get a quality, well developed and easy to use and reliable system, which has remained unrivaled for many years now and shows no sign of letting up.

So, at the end of the day if the PS3 was "soooooo goood" like you claim it is, why do store shelves world wide still have PS3's on them collecting dust? Why doesnt EVERYONE have one? And why doesnt it have more exclusives? Answer: Microsoft and Nintendo.

Sony ruined their brand with the PS3, with CONSTANT lies, delays, disappointments and jacking up the price. They have screwed over the EU gaming market and lost many of their trump cards in the form of exclusives because developers can see this themselves and choose to port their games to the 360 and PC just to make their money back.

Oh and this so called "unrivaled" backwards compatibility arguement is moot as well, because this isnt about playing games from last gen, its about playing games NOW. Besides the PS3 has terrible BC abilities over here in the EU, even worse than the 360 id say.

360 is cheaper, better, and has more games than the PS3. At the end of the day that is all that matters:GAMES and the PS3 doesnt have any, unless you consider playing Motorstorm and resistance for the 5 billionth time because theres nothing else and the ports play better on the 360 and pc anyway.

And what with the release of the 360 Elite with a bigger hard drive than the PS3 all still for a lower price, that just adds another nail into PS3's coffin.

These are the cold hard facts, and are not just my fanboyish opinions. The PS3 lacks games, power, is too expensive, Blu-Ray isnt needed and the 360 and Wii have already proved world wide that gamers dont care about Sony anymore after all their screw ups.

The way i see it: Why buy a poorly made mercedes and pay more for the badge when you can buy a BMW that does everything the Merc can but is made better and is an overall better car?

Sonray wrote:

0ctane wrote:wow lol i guess u guys like the Xbox.

Now I'm all for the PS3, but having originally spent so much on the PS2 when it first came out (£410 in 2000) and seeing the price drop so much a year or two later (to a meager £120) I've decided to wait till the PS3 drops in price before i buy it (my DS will fill the gap in the meantime .)

Owning a PS2 has made me a great fan of titles such as Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, Gran turismo, Final fantasy, shadow of the colossus etc so I''m exited at how these titles will turn out on the PS3, MGS4 is just pure awesomeness and tekken 6 (with online play ) blows me away (and they're exclusives i think, not sure though).

Now my major beef with the Xbox 360 is that damn awkward controller, wtf is up with it? many of my friends have an xbox and now 360 but i can't adapt to that damn controller, i could handle the dreamcast, N64 and gamecube controllers but wtf, the D pad gets in the way, and its a rubbish D pad anyway. I was a master of dead or alive 2 on the PS2 and the visuals on DOA3 on the xbox were superb but i couldn't pull the damn moves off.

I'm also not a fan of First person shooters and other shooters because i've played them to death on numerous different consoles starting with doom all the way through goldeneye and timesplitters 3. I'm just sick of em and its specifically this genre that the Xbox does well, what games are good? Halo? Gears of war? I've played both and got bored straight away, i don't get all the hype...

Xbox also slows down too much, played MGS2 on xbox, the rain made it slow down... played GUITAR HERO 2 on 360 and it slowed down (wtf) it has to many issues, over heating being the major one.

people can't compare 360 and PS3 now because the PS3 hasn't even been out that long and think of the transition between tekken tag (launch title) and tekken 5 (freaking awesome)once developers get the hang of the hardware we'll see some incredible stuff.

PS3 wins for me, only thing stopping me buying one is the price. I've seen the 360, seen what it can and it doesn't impress me. Thats all.

8 vs 1, i would say with stats like that all over the world, most people would disagree with you.

Yeah or do it like my friend I know they bought all next gen consoles so you have all game possibilities.
But at the moment the PS3 have no game for me in their arsenal. And I think it would never be.

and the 360 just droped its price by $50

Overall I'd say X-box 360. Quality wise I might say PS3 since the X-box 360's are having horrible failure rates due to the evil "ring of death". Its all an overheating issue, but hell for all we know the PS3 might be the biggest POS ever made and no one would no it due to the fact that NOBODY WANTS TO PAY $600 FOR A DAMN VIDEO GAME SYSTEM! lol. Give me that money and I'll build you an awesome PC! With that price tag they outta call it the Sony playstation 3DO!

Anyway lower price, and more games, but still as of now very dissapointing in comparison to the old Big Black & Green Machine. Most of the games I'd want to buy on it our just ports of PC games. The real tragedy of the system: Gears of War is coming to PC.

Halo 3 is coming out so hopefully things will get better from there. What I really can't believe is that Wii isn't an option because while it may not have the high horsepower the PS3 and Xbox 360 have, it has the best games on it, and the most innovative controller I've ever seen. Its my pick for best system of this generation. I was skeptical at first but now I'm a believer. My only complaint about the Wii you have a better chance of hitting the lottery than finding one at your local wal-mart store!

Cormaster628 wrote:Overall I'd say X-box 360. Quality wise I might say PS3 since the X-box 360's are having horrible failure rates due to the evil "ring of death". Its all an overheating issue, but hell for all we know the PS3 might be the biggest POS ever made and no one would no it due to the fact that NOBODY WANTS TO PAY $600 FOR A DAMN VIDEO GAME SYSTEM! lol. Give me that money and I'll build you an awesome PC! With that price tag they outta call it the Sony playstation 3DO!

Anyway lower price, and more games, but still as of now very dissapointing in comparison to the old Big Black & Green Machine. Most of the games I'd want to buy on it our just ports of PC games. The real tragedy of the system: Gears of War is coming to PC.

Halo 3 is coming out so hopefully things will get better from there. What I really can't believe is that Wii isn't an option because while it may not have the high horsepower the PS3 and Xbox 360 have, it has the best games on it, and the most innovative controller I've ever seen. Its my pick for best system of this generation. I was skeptical at first but now I'm a believer. My only complaint about the Wii you have a better chance of hitting the lottery than finding one at your local wal-mart store!

You havnt been able to play Gears of war on the pc till now, a year after the 360 version came out, and you wont be able to play it well unless you have a super expensive high end gaming pc, something that'll cost double if not triple the price of a 360. Just SYK.

They said the same thing about Doom 3, and Doom 3 runs fine on an Athlon XP 1800+, Geforce 3, and 512mb of ram! Texture detail on Medium and 800x600 resoloution and I'm sure Gears of War will run fine on anything somewhat equipped to run games.

Gears of War runs on the Unreal 3 engine. Unrealengines typically are never that demanding. I remember when UT2004 came out and you could run it on nearly anything.

Gears are of war will also be a lot better with a mouse and keyboard. I still think MS is being stupid as hell on this subject. They build a gaming system that they want as a universal device to replace everything a PC can do on your TV (thats how Bill Gates touted the 360) and then they rob you of mouse and keyboard support! I'm sorry but FPS's suck using a controller. You can't aim at all using the analog stick.

I'm going to get a 360 eventually, in fact I'm probably just going to fix my roommate's overheating one and take it for myself. Figure some high flow fans and artic silver outta help it out quite a bit. Something I read the other day was that at the E3 in 2005 they showed off the 360 as a watercooled system. Now the production version, has no where near anything that complex, just 2 plane jane heat sinks, 2 80mm fans and a little plastic piece to channel air through the heatsinks and out the fans...and that processor runs at 3ghz and has 3 cores! Its no wonder that thing overheats so much and gives the infamous "Ring of Death".

My theory was MS was set on there price point, and water cooling was going to be too expensive, however MS was still set so hard on being the first console of the new generation that they just found some cheap quick fix to replace the water cooling system. And that is why there are like a 50% failure rating on 360's.

The 360 is really disapointing to the original, and honestly they killed Xbox 1 too soon... I mean hell I had just picked up my box in 2004 and in 2005 MS Says "thats out of date". A couple things they should of done to improve it.

#1. Pushed the release date to 2006. the extra year of time could of gave MS sometime to make sure the system was cooling properly and that backward compatibility was 100% and had a way for original x-box owners to transfer their game saves.
#2. not screwed over Nvidia. Having Nvida make the chipset again would of allowed better backward compatibility.
#3. ditch the horrible white paint scheme, keep the thing black and green, signature xbox colors
#4. Made sure Halo 3 and Fable 2 was ready at launch.
#5. not offer the stupid basic version. Xbox is supposed to have a hard drive and game developers are getting frustrated now because they have to design games to have or not have a hard drive.

when I'm done rebuilding and repairing my roommate's 360 I'm gonna paint it jet black and get some high flow cooling fans that light up green for the back. It'll look more like how I envisioned the 360 to look!

"Best" is such a realitve term, and since I've never used a PS3 either, I'll just sidestep the question. Instead I'll just explain why I'm a 360 owner: It was getting the games I was interested in first. Simple as that. If RRXX or Hitman: Blood Money were to be PS3 exclusives, I would've waited and saved up. Also folks don't forget that Nintendo's got a litle console out ,too. Come on, where's the "Wii Love"?

cormaster:

I play FPS's on consoles all the time, and i prefer it over the mouse and keyboard. If you cant aim with the controller, you just plain suck at the game, it isnt an issue of bad controls as the controls in games like gears, halo and others are almost perfect.

Its not really so much a matter of aiming, its a matter of speed. I can play them on the Console fine, but you can move a mouse much quicker than an analog stick. And yes I agree the controls for halo are perfect for a controller, but you'd be suprise how much easier the game seems on PC. I mean you can literally fly right through the single player mode.

A buddy of mine got an Xbox live kit for his original xbox and it came with Unreal Championship. He said he was impressed how much it looked like UT2003 on the PC, but he said the action wasn't near as fast paced because people had to keep stopping to aim. Said his overall opinion is Unreal Tournament is a joke on a console.

Anyway as for which is better between PS3, the sales figures say 360, but who really knows. No one owns a PS3 for comparison. I'm sure all 5 people who own one are pretty impressed with it!

There's the problem. I don't want to fly right through Halo. I want it to last for a while.

I played Halo on PC, and it paled in comparison to Halo on Xbox.

Shadowman wrote:There's the problem. I don't want to fly right through Halo. I want it to last for a while.

I played Halo on PC, and it paled in comparison to Halo on Xbox.

I agree. I had both versions and i played the pc version first as i never owned an xbox till a few months ago, but i played halo on the pc well before i ever got a 360. I had never played it on the xbox but i heard great things about it. When i breezed through the pc version i thought it was good but overhyped, it just didnt feel right. Recently i sold the pc version and bought halo 1 and 2 for the 360 and they felt so much better and changed how i feel about halo altogether.

Cormaster628 wrote:Anyway as for which is better between PS3, the sales figures say 360, but who really knows. No one owns a PS3 for comparison. I'm sure all 5 people who own one are pretty impressed with it!

I'm one of those people. I don't regret it, though as I'm having fun with it.

Before I get flamed or have "lol, enjoy your 400GBP paper weight," thrown my way, as long as I'm having fun with it, and you have fun with your 360s, it's all good, right?