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I think it is completely plausable. First off, in the G1 universe humans were aware of the Transformers existence on Earth. For some reason the new movie seemed to want it so humans don't know about them. But, after having a major battle in a large city there is no way they can continue to be "unknown" to the human race. So I say that the dinobots can crash into the Earth into a museum and scan dinosaur fossils and then become the Dinobots we all know and love. And the story line could allow for humans to know that Transformers are here. Some to hurt us and other to protect us. Then it won't be a big deal when humans see robotic dinosaurs roaming around. and I personally think this would equal much better box office sales. Even non-Transformers fans would love to see the CGI of the Dinobots. Am I alone on this?

I see a couple of problems with your reasoning.

For starters, does humanity know about TF's? If they do, why at the end of the movie are they still in vehicle mode like they're hiding? Wouldn't suprise me if things were hushed up to further the whole "robots in disguise" thing.

Secondly, I can see a LOT of non-fans drawing comparrisons between giant robotic dinosaurs and Jurassic Park.

In my head it'd just cheapen the whole TF movie franchise if it came across as a bit of a Jurassic Park rip-off.

Burn wrote:I see a couple of problems with your reasoning.

For starters, does humanity know about TF's? If they do, why at the end of the movie are they still in vehicle mode like they're hiding? Wouldn't suprise me if things were hushed up to further the whole "robots in disguise" thing.

Secondly, I can see a LOT of non-fans drawing comparrisons between giant robotic dinosaurs and Jurassic Park.

In my head it'd just cheapen the whole TF movie franchise if it came across as a bit of a Jurassic Park rip-off.

I'm not asking for a Jurassic Park rip off. I don't see why Dinobots would = Jarassic Park rip off in the first place. I stated in my post that in the movie humans were supposedly unaware of the Transformers. As if they could be that visible and destroy a big city like that and continue to be undetected. The fact that humans will realize that Transformers live among them is inevitable. As far as the Jurassic stuff, I see the Dinobots as being and looking robotic even in alt mode. There is no need for the Dinobots to be in a realistic looking disguise. The Dinobots would do just the opposite of cheapening the franchise. They would attract an even broader audience. Michael Bay has already changed things so much that this is completely do-able.

I never said they weren't going to be robotic looking.

I'm simply saying that the public, and most definitely, the highly intelligent critics, will draw comparrisons to Jurassic Park.

How can they not? Especially if Spielberg is attached to the 2nd movie as he was the 1st.

Comparrisons WILL be drawn. How much though, we can only guess at this point.

Now as far as humans go, it was contained to a city. What's stopping the Government from covering that up?

My theory is about as concrete as yours.

i think they should be in the movie as just bad ass cybertronian war vehicles just like the comic books....the dinobots are a click of killers not just robots that look like extinct dinosaurs..


if they are in one of the next movies and are just portrayed as an elite group that got the single from prime so now they are here to kick ass and take names....thats great...there needs to be no rhyme or reason to the madness....just do it

lilcarus wrote:i think they should be in the movie as just bad ass cybertronian war vehicles just like the comic books....the dinobots are a click of killers not just robots that look like extinct dinosaurs..


if they are in one of the next movies and are just portrayed as an elite group that got the single from prime so now they are here to kick ass and take names....thats great...there needs to be no rhyme or reason to the madness....just do it

Yes. Thank you. I hate how everyone thinks they have to "turn into" dinosaurs.

However, they are the Dinobots, so it would be retarded not to have them turn into dinosaurs.

So why not have them be diosaur-like robots that turn into vehicles?


Of course, they could just use the characters and not ever say Dinobots, and then they could have humanoid robot modes and vehicles, but I rather like the idea of dinosoid looking robots that turn into tanks and other military vehicles, on the Autobot's side.

I'm gonna disagree with a couple of you.
The characters are getting changed enough.
And I know that this isn't totally based on G1,
so "why completely stick to it..."
But when you think about it,
whether you're a big G1 fan or not, the first movie already has changed A LOT of stuff.

Imo, the Dinobots need to be in one of the movies.
And I'd be willing to compromise between ideas.
Start 'em off as vehicles(or something else), but at some point,
have them change into dinosaurs.
In fact, that could help make for a really cool ending battle.
And after they change/scan into dino's,
I'd like to see them remain with dinosaur alt modes in any movie(s) following that one.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Imo, the Dinobots need to be in one of the movies.
And I'd be willing to compromise between ideas.
Start 'em off as vehicles(or something else), but at some point,
have them change into dinosaurs.
In fact, that could help make for a really cool ending battle.
And after they change/scan into dino's,
I'd like to see them remain with dinosaur alt modes in any movie(s) following that one.

Or why not have them be dinosaur-like in robot mode? Really, what's the point of a giant robot dinosaur alt mode? It's kind of stupid, really....

Well, Scorponok paves the way for non-vehicle alt modes, but I'm not sure how well a giant metal T-Rex will go over with the general public. I think it might make the second movie come off as a bit cheesey. In light of this, I am willing to sacrifice every Dinobot except Grimlock. I demand Grimlock be present. Have him turn into a tank, never use the word Dinobot, but make it Grimlock. That will be enough to appease the fan in me. Not that I wouldn't love to see a Grimlock with a dino-mode, and, if it's done right, i'll be cheering with everybody else.

it would be meggar hard to pull the dinobots off.
if dinobots are autobots are there dinocons

They could let them transform into military viacles, ore stuff like that, and have like a dinohead painted on them, Gimlock would have a T-REX, Swoop a Pteroductilus and so on.

haveing actual dinobots, (AS IN BIG DINOS)
A - To Cheasy
B - Very hard to pull of
C - dinos wouldnt look as robots with the kind of graphics they use!

They could easily pull off robotic dinosaur modes and look kick-ass doing it. If they can pull off a giant robotic scorpian, they can pull of robotic Dinosaurs. As others and myself have mentioned in previous threads, having them scan either fossils or anamatronic full-scale models at a museum would be perfect. Also, a dinosaur mode is definately good for power and combat, especially close-quarters combat[/b]. Claws, teeth, spikes, equals serious damage to the enemy. As for the general populous knowing about the TFs, after the final battle, no, they don't. Most communication was down because of the Decepticons' virus. Television, internet, telephone, all of them were down. The only people who would know are the people who witnessed the battle first-hand, and they're not likely to want to talk about it.

Dark Zarak wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:Imo, the Dinobots need to be in one of the movies.
And I'd be willing to compromise between ideas.
Start 'em off as vehicles(or something else), but at some point,
have them change into dinosaurs.
In fact, that could help make for a really cool ending battle.
And after they change/scan into dino's,
I'd like to see them remain with dinosaur alt modes in any movie(s) following that one.

Or why not have them be dinosaur-like in robot mode? Really, what's the point of a giant robot dinosaur alt mode? It's kind of stupid, really....

I think the reasoning could be as simple as they would be butt-kickers.
Something like they (the Autobots) want their an alt. modes more durable, with more weapons.
I would somehow incorporate that the dino-mode has been created to be ridiculously strong.
(Maybe this is an answer to Devastator or another Gestalt)
And who knows?
In the movie, once they've scanned dinosaurs,
have them in a remote area away from heavily-populated civilization.
Rain forest, jungle, or even an island.
Cause I guarantee, with other bots in the scenes,
it ain't gonna seem like a bite off of J.Park.

After thinking about this for a little,
and considering what others have said,
I really think dinos should be included--
as vehicles first,
and dino's at the end for a great battle scene.
If other movies are made after,
incorporate them based on the popularity of their first showing.
No one's saying they have to become the main characters.
Heck, in the second movie, have them destroyed in the first 20-30 minutes.

It's kinda the same way I feel about having the Constructicons and Devastator in a movie.
I want to see them badly,
but it doesn't mean they have to dominate dialogue,
or have the story center on them.

If they really were "Robots In Disguise" they should know better than to bring a big Dinosaur on earth. I hope the Dinobots won't come and I doubt they will... what will Non-TF fans think after watching the first movie 2007.

They are trying to keep the movies as real as possible, that's why they didn't include soundwave and megatron didn't transform into a gun.
If they decide to include the Dinobots, i think they'll make them transform into something other than dinosaurs. (it will be hard to be in disguise if you're a robotic Tyrannosaurus rex)

Barricade643 wrote:They are trying to keep the movies as real as possible, that's why they didn't include soundwave and megatron didn't transform into a gun.
If they decide to include the Dinobots, i think they'll make them transform into something other than dinosaurs. (it will be hard to be in disguise if you're a robotic Tyrannosaurus rex)

Actually, the only reason why they didn't use Soundwave in the first movie is they wanted to do him right, which includes having the mass conversion, which they really didn't have time to address plausibly, but can be addressed in a sequel. Megatron not being a gun had less to do with mass conversion and more to do with his position as leader of the Decepticons. It never made sense for him to be a gun because it requires him to surrender control of his own body to another individual in his alternate mode. This would be unthinkable for a megalomaniac like Megatron. Someone who wants ultimate absolute power and control over the entire universe would never relinquish control of his own body in order to make use of his alternate form.

I don't think it would really work...
Giant robotic dinosaurs tunning around.... it'd be cool, but it just doesn't seem to fit.
I'd be happier seeing other characters instead. That may be because I like the TF's that turn into machines and vechicles better than the ones that turn into animals...
But whatever... I just REALLY want Arcee to show up no matter what.

Siren Prime wrote:I don't think it would really work...
Giant robotic dinosaurs tunning around.... it'd be cool, but it just doesn't seem to fit.
I'd be happier seeing other characters instead. That may be because I like the TF's that turn into machines and vechicles better than the ones that turn into animals...
But whatever... I just REALLY want Arcee to show up no matter what.

This is almost EXACTLY what I just posted in the other Dino-thread.
(although, I don't care about seeing Arcee...
Gimme the Constructicons!!)
It would be cool, but would it potentially mess up the movie?
That question at first doesn't make sense,
but no one wants one element of a movie to screw up the whole thing.
It's kinda the way I look at 300.
Lots of good stuff...
But enough silly, stupid, laughable stuff to mess it all up.

i dont really care what they look like, as long as one of the lines in the movie is..

" Me Grimlock.. me KINGGG!"