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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:45 pm

Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.
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Postby dbz77 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:51 pm

Skullgrin140 wrote:Even though Jazz died an honorable death, it sucks that he was killed off before we got the chance to know him. He'd better be brought back to life.

If he could be brought back to life, what will stop Megatron from being brought back to life?


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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:55 pm

dbz77 wrote:
Skullgrin140 wrote:Even though Jazz died an honorable death, it sucks that he was killed off before we got the chance to know him. He'd better be brought back to life.

If he could be brought back to life, what will stop Megatron from being brought back to life?


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Can you explain in further detail please?
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:05 pm

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Coolyfett wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.


No, that's just stupid human thinking trying to apply ethnicity to personalities of alien robots.

He's not black. There are no different ethnic cultures on Cybertron. He simply picked up his style of communication from one particular urban culture, but does that, and never will, make him "black".
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Postby PRiMESDESTiNY » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:11 pm

Burn wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.


No, that's just stupid human thinking trying to apply ethnicity to personalities of alien robots.

He's not black. There are no different ethnic cultures on Cybertron. He simply picked up his style of communication from one particular urban culture, but does that, and never will, make him "black".



BURN!! if u dont stop biting into bait! **pumps fist** it's no point in arguing with someone's narrow minded foolish thinking. those with real intelligence KNOW BETTER, so don't waste your time.
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:12 pm

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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:13 pm

Burn wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.


No, that's just stupid human thinking trying to apply ethnicity to personalities of alien robots.

He's not black. There are no different ethnic cultures on Cybertron. He simply picked up his style of communication from one particular urban culture, but does that, and never will, make him "black".


Awww...I am sorry for thinking like a "stupid human" are you a robot? Because if you are your first sentence makes a lot of sense.

Again Jazz is a black man.

Don't let it bother you that Jazz is black.

I have quite an easy time dealing with it.

Thanks for your time.

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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:17 pm

PRiMESDESTiNY wrote:
Burn wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.


No, that's just stupid human thinking trying to apply ethnicity to personalities of alien robots.

He's not black. There are no different ethnic cultures on Cybertron. He simply picked up his style of communication from one particular urban culture, but does that, and never will, make him "black".



BURN!! if u dont stop biting into bait! **pumps fist** it's no point in arguing with someone's narrow minded foolish thinking. those with real intelligence KNOW BETTER, so don't waste your time.


Actually good sir. Since you are the intelligence challenger, I will tell you when someone does not agree with "YOU" doesn't mean they are narrow mind nor foolish.

Thank you for your time sweetheart.
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Postby PRiMESDESTiNY » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:32 pm

Coolyfett wrote:
PRiMESDESTiNY wrote:
Burn wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.


No, that's just stupid human thinking trying to apply ethnicity to personalities of alien robots.

He's not black. There are no different ethnic cultures on Cybertron. He simply picked up his style of communication from one particular urban culture, but does that, and never will, make him "black".



BURN!! if u dont stop biting into bait! **pumps fist** it's no point in arguing with someone's narrow minded foolish thinking. those with real intelligence KNOW BETTER, so don't waste your time.


Actually good sir. Since you are the intelligence challenger, I will tell you when someone does not agree with "YOU" doesn't mean they are narrow mind nor foolish.

Thank you for your time sweetheart.


NOW iM BiTiNG cause this is too much....

First off, your ignorance shows..WHY? and it has nothing to do with disagreeing on your point of view. i have no problem with folks not seeing my point of view. hell, burn can tell you as he and i have had a respectful mature debate before. BUT your point of view on this, is just shot to sh*t on this particular subject. WHY? because u are making ASSumptions based on narrow minded thinking.

Prime example. You ASSuming that im a MALE when im FEMALE.

2nd im taking offense to that statement, WHY? BECAUSE iM BLACK. ALL BLACK PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE HIP HOP, DONT SAY WHATS CRACKIN BITCHES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO YOU SAYING THAT JAZZ IS BLACK IS VERY IGNORANT MINDED AND VERY STEREO TYPICAL. JAZZ IS AN URBAN BOT WHO HAPPENS TO BE SILVER. HE REPRESENTS THAT PARTICULAR GENRE, NOT RACE. i swear some people need to seriously grow up and expand their minds.


p.s. you should keep this quote in mind for not only on here but just in life general...


"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." -
-- Mark Twain



now im done. and thank you for YOUR time, boo.

:PEACE:
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:43 pm

PRiMESDESTiNY wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:
PRiMESDESTiNY wrote:
Burn wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Coolyfett wrote:Jazz is a black Autobot.


No, Jazz is a silver Robot.


Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.

your turn.


No, that's just stupid human thinking trying to apply ethnicity to personalities of alien robots.

He's not black. There are no different ethnic cultures on Cybertron. He simply picked up his style of communication from one particular urban culture, but does that, and never will, make him "black".



BURN!! if u dont stop biting into bait! **pumps fist** it's no point in arguing with someone's narrow minded foolish thinking. those with real intelligence KNOW BETTER, so don't waste your time.


Actually good sir. Since you are the intelligence challenger, I will tell you when someone does not agree with "YOU" doesn't mean they are narrow mind nor foolish.

Thank you for your time sweetheart.


NOW iM BiTiNG cause this is too much....

First off, your ignorance shows..WHY? and it has nothing to do with disagreeing on your point of view. i have no problem with folks not seeing my point of view. hell, burn can tell you as he and i have had a respectful mature debate before. BUT your point of view on this, is just shot to sh*t on this particular subject. WHY? because u are making ASSumptions based on narrow minded thinking.

Prime example. You ASSuming that im a MALE when im FEMALE.

2nd im taking offense to that statement, WHY? BECAUSE iM BLACK. ALL BLACK PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE HIP HOP, DONT SAY WHATS CRACKIN BITCHES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO YOU SAYING THAT JAZZ IS BLACK IS VERY IGNORANT MINDED AND VERY STEREO TYPICAL. JAZZ IS AN URBAN BOT WHO HAPPENS TO BE SILVER. HE REPRESENTS THAT PARTICULAR GENRE, NOT RACE. i swear some people need to seriously grow up and expand their minds.


p.s. you should keep this quote in mind for not only on here but just in life general...


"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." -
-- Mark Twain



now im done. and thank you for YOUR time, boo.

:PEACE:



lol aww this is lovely. I thought you were a female I do appreciate your confirmation.

Again I DO NOT agree with you, but ACCORDING to you that make me narrow minded.

Also here is a secret sweety. I AM BLACK TO........WOOOOOOOOOOW.....so is Jazz...so are you....being black is cool right??

You may speak now.
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:15 pm

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Let's look at it from this perspective.

I've seen plenty of white guys talking the style of Jazz used. Like someone pointed out a while back, it's an "urban style", not necessarily exclusive to one particular skin colour.

And as I said before, there is no ethnic diversity on Cybertron. The Autobots simply adopted different styles of speech that they "learned off the net". That doesn't make them a member of any particular ethnic or urban culture.
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:48 pm

See what happens when my Jaguars have the sunday off!!!! :sad:
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:18 pm

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No ... probably because I, and many others, are not American and have no idea what you're on about. ;;)
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:44 pm

Burn wrote:No ... probably because I, and many others, are not American and have no idea what you're on about. ;;)


huh? What I am on about?
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:49 pm

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Wow, you can't even follow what you post yourself.

The last page of discussions with you suddenly makes sense.
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:02 pm

Burn wrote:Wow, you can't even follow what you post yourself.

The last page of discussions with you suddenly makes sense.


Wow you are so smart...Burn what you said did not make sense. I don't understand your European jibberish. With out being silly it was regular question buddy. Since it is flaming season let the games began.
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:11 pm

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I'm not European.

And to think ... you were claiming just a few hours ago that you weren't ignorant. :wink:

Allow me to put it simply for you.

We were having a nice discussion about whether Jazz was black or not, when out of the blue you come out with this

See what happens when my Jaguars have the sunday off!!!! :sad:


Now I have no idea what this means, nor do I see how it even relates to the discussion.

So I don't see what happens when your Jaguars have the Sunday off. But I did figure it was an American thing, but as a non-American I didn't get it, and said so.

Understanding now? ;;)

Now be a good boy and explain why you believe Jazz is "black". Because all you've said is "Jazz is black" but you've yet to really back that statement up to convince people otherwise.
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:27 pm

Burn wrote:I'm not European.

And to think ... you were claiming just a few hours ago that you weren't ignorant. :wink:

Allow me to put it simply for you.

We were having a nice discussion about whether Jazz was black or not, when out of the blue you come out with this

See what happens when my Jaguars have the sunday off!!!!


Now I have no idea what this means, nor do I see how it even relates to the discussion.

So I don't see what happens when your Jaguars have the Sunday off. But I did figure it was an American thing, but as a non-American I didn't get it, and said so.

Understanding now? ;;)

Now be a good boy and explain why you believe Jazz is "black". Because all you've said is "Jazz is black" but you've yet to really back that statement up to convince people otherwise.



Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha roflmao!!!!!

Look moron my life doesn't revolve around Transformers, but there is an interest.

Most people in the states are into this sport call football...Not your football with the black and white ball. Our football is brown with laces. :lol:

Anyway my football team is not playing today. That why I am on seibertron.com just pass time...Its not my life. ha ha ha ha ha (if you could only see the smile on my face)

This topic was started to discuss if Jazz will return inn TF2 . I simple stated "Jazz was black" simple 3 words. No biggie to me. I just said it because that how I feel. You felt otherwise...so what....who cares...you choose to come at me FIRST. So I then went at you. Follow me?

We can go all night baby. Again Jazz is black. You can call names if you like. I will return them. I don't care how you feel. How I feel is golden to me, and that is all that matters me.

your turn. :lol:
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:35 pm

Its like this, if you don't like what I say ignore me. If you choose to flame I'll flame your dumb ass right back. Follow me? A lot people say things on this forum I don't like. I let them do them. If I am not interested I don't respond bucko. You responded to me. You feel the need to call me out because Jazz is black. You made your choice.
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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:38 pm

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I'm not calling you names, that's against site rules. :wink:

Secondly, you once again assume things about me which are wrong. Just like the US, that game with the black and white ball is called soccer as well. We also play football here, three (four if you count soccer as well) different codes in fact.

Thirdly, sitting on line on a message board trying to start a flame war. Yes, that does say so much about you.

Fourthly, this is a discussion forum, to ... get this, discuss things. You want to say "Jazz is black", that's fine. I'd just like your thoughts on why you feel "Jazz is black". I'm asking for your opinion. Yet you seem more interested in demonstrating a lack of intelligence by attacking me rather than showing some intelligence and putting forth your thoughts on things.

And last but not least, we can go at this all night, or all day in my case, doesn't bother me. I'm laughing as well because all you're doing is embarrassing yourself. So yeah, feel free to keep it going. I've done nothing but ask for you to explain a few things, and rather than doing that you've chosen to attempt to insult me.

Over to you. 8)
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Postby Coolyfett » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:55 pm

Burn wrote:I'm not calling you names, that's against site rules. :wink:

Secondly, you once again assume things about me which are wrong. Just like the US, that game with the black and white ball is called soccer as well. We also play football here, three (four if you count soccer as well) different codes in fact.

Thirdly, sitting on line on a message board trying to start a flame war. Yes, that does say so much about you.

Fourthly, this is a discussion forum, to ... get this, discuss things. You want to say "Jazz is black", that's fine. I'd just like your thoughts on why you feel "Jazz is black". I'm asking for your opinion. Yet you seem more interested in demonstrating a lack of intelligence by attacking me rather than showing some intelligence and putting forth your thoughts on things.

And last but not least, we can go at this all night, or all day in my case, doesn't bother me. I'm laughing as well because all you're doing is embarrassing yourself. So yeah, feel free to keep it going. I've done nothing but ask for you to explain a few things, and rather than doing that you've chosen to attempt to insult me.

Over to you. 8)


I didn't even finish reading your post. You have contradicted yourself twice. YES you started flaming me first and YES you started calling names first. Go look through all your post. Its there ha ha ha ha ha. Hey Im about to watch the Redsox/Indians game. My girl just got home. Ill chat with you later baby.

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Postby Burn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:06 pm

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What, the "stupid human thinking" comment?

It was a generalized statement aimed at a broad range of people who try to apply human standards to giant alien robots.

I'm still waiting on your reasoning behind Jazz being black. Funny how i've asked you for that what ... three times? And you seem to avoid that issue and concentrating on the flaming side of things.

Do you like flame wars on the internet? Do you like to hide behind the anonymity of your computer to attack people who have challenged you to a intelligent discussion you know you're going to lose?

See, i've dealt with people like you before. You breeze into forums or chat rooms, make a comment that people want further discussion on and when you can't back it up you resort to flame wars.

Come on ... prove me wrong! Tell me why you believe Jazz is black. That's all i'm asking! :grin:
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Postby Tazirai » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:13 am

Burn wrote:
Night Striker wrote:Burn I don't know how much G1 of Jazz you've ever seen, but he was one of the coolest characters in that cannon, and should not have been killed off.



Communications officers are expendable, and the fact he acted so many times to be a distraction does not make him a memorable character. It makes him cannon fodder.


Can always tell folks who never been in uniform. First time I have heard of a Communications specialist being expendable. Especially being one. lol :grin: :grin: :P
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Postby AncientSpark » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:37 am

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Bumbled wrote:There is only slight chances that Jazz might return. But why would Optimus Prime say after he picked the small piece of the Allspark that "We had a lost a great comrade." I am sure he wouldn't of said anything at all if they were going to bring hi m back.


I absolutly agree here. Jazz was in the film just to acknowledge that there once was a Jazz. Nobody will ever be Jazz in the hearts of true fans except for Scatman Crothers.

The movie Jazz was a placeholder, a memorobilia of AI. That is ALL. Jazz must stay at rest with the ancients who reside within the Matrix. (if they'll ever do that).
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Postby Robinson » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:44 am

Coolyfett wrote:Ahmm No....Jazz is a black Autobot.


Again Jazz is a black man.


Since you like to point out when people contradict themselves I thought I'd let you see your own contradictions.

Which is it? Is he a man or bot?

Btw look at some pics of jazz. He is silver, not black.
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