The Energon Pub

[Venomous Prime]

The links don't work, how am I supposed to see how to make Prime's sword

Killer work though!

[Tramp]

Prime's hand doesn't get replaced by the sword, the sword simply extends out from the wrist along the back of his hand.

untrue, when he retracts it you clearly see the blade slide in and the hand slide back out.

Edit: Here's a couple of screenshots illustrating my point (not the greatest quality, but I use what I have to work with):

Sorry, but I don't see anything there that suggests the hand retracted at all. In fact, I can't see anything of any real detail period. the quality isn't good enough. When I watched the movie, twice. All it loed to me like is the blade flipped out from his wrist. It didn't replace his hand.

[Jin Saotome]

I've seen the movie twice now, the first time front row center, and the TV spots innumerable times. There is nothing over his optics when the battle mask is down. They are the only parts of his face left exposed.

Maybe it passes by too fast but there are grates there, look here: http://www.tfans.com/talk/index.php?s=& ... &p=1186150

And I keep seeing someone's signature that has a clip of Prime whipping out with his sword over and over again. It definatly looks like his hand backs into his cuff and disappears completly before the sword pops out. Can't find the sig image now, probabaly on another forums.

[Tramp]

Watch the scene where Bumblebee lifts up the one side of his baattlemask. his optics are unobstructed. What you thoght was a grate was actually just the swift movement blurring the optics.

And, as for Prime, every time I watched that clip, and in the mvoe itself, it just looked to me as if the blade just flipped out lond the back of his hand. That would make more sense to do too, and there is plenty of room for the blade to fit without retracting the hand. Having the hand retract would be not only unnecessary, but also limiting.

[Sonray]

Watch the scene where Bumblebee lifts up the one side of his baattlemask. his optics are unobstructed. What you thoght was a grate was actually just the swift movement blurring the optics.

And, as for Prime, every time I watched that clip, and in the mvoe itself, it just looked to me as if the blade just flipped out lond the back of his hand. That would make more sense to do too, and there is plenty of room for the blade to fit without retracting the hand. Having the hand retract would be not only unnecessary, but also limiting.

But it would be G1 accurate. His hand retracts back into his arm, ive seen it happen this way too. His hand goes back, and out comes the energon axe, G1 STYLE BABY!

[Damienl]

Awesome, awesome work!

I have a question though, did you repaint BB's car body? It looks like you didnt touch the hood, but painted some of the rest of it.

[Jin Saotome]

Watch the scene where Bumblebee lifts up the one side of his baattlemask. his optics are unobstructed. What you thoght was a grate was actually just the swift movement blurring the optics.

I dunno, you don't get any more eye-grating-mask-look than this.



Unless they removed this clip from the movie and was only used for the promo trailers?

And nope, I didn't repaint any of Bee's car body, just inside.

[Tramp]

They didn't remove it, but I am sure they modified it, getting rid of your "grating". As I said, all the shots I've seen show unobstructed optics.

[shockticus]

If you keep this up, I might kiss you.

no comment there...

[Khaotika]

<3 Barricade; the Wreckage looks better in that color scheme. Amazing work as always.

[MisterNewUzer]

They didn't remove it, but I am sure they modified it, getting rid of your "grating". As I said, all the shots I've seen show unobstructed optics.

Sorry duder, but Jin's right. I've got a [really good] bootleg of the movie and I just watched both scenes with the battle mask about 10 times each. The "grating" is more like 3 or 4 bars that come across his optics. In the scene after he topples Brawl, the bars are seen retracting quickly as BB is lifting up his mask. Maybe it is you who should go back and look again? heh

Way to introduce myself to the forums right? haha, Hey guys, I'm new!

[Sonray]

They didn't remove it, but I am sure they modified it, getting rid of your "grating". As I said, all the shots I've seen show unobstructed optics.

Sorry duder, but Jin's right. I've got a [really good] bootleg of the movie and I just watched both scenes with the battle mask about 10 times each. The "grating" is more like 3 or 4 bars that come across his optics. In the scene after he topples Brawl, the bars are seen retracting quickly as BB is lifting up his mask. Maybe it is you who should go back and look again? heh

Way to introduce myself to the forums right? haha, Hey guys, I'm new!

Welcome!


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[Fires_Of_Inferno]

These all kick ass, brilliant works of art, wish I could do this.

[Nujevad]

I've got a question for Jin, what do you use to cut large pieces of plastic? I also want to know what you use to make precise slices on smaller parts. The exacto-knife and hacksaw methods aren't really working for a project I'm working on.

[sdefedder]

Ratchet is yellow, not green like this...

[Sonray]

Ratchet is yellow, not green like this...

He's actually a sort of day glow green, that actually looks like yellow in certain light conditions. However in reality he is a day glow green, so the toy is accurate. I thought he was yellow at first as well, then i did some research and studied stills from the movie and he is indeed this greeny color.

[Tramp]

Sonray is correct on this. movie rathcet is florescent "Dayglow" green. Many ambulances use the same color as detailing because it reflects light better than red making it more visble at night when struck by headlights.

[Sonray]

Sonray is correct on this. movie rathcet is florescent "Dayglow" green. Many ambulances use the same color as detailing because it reflects light better than red making it more visble at night when struck by headlights.

I think its funny how so many people complain about this version of ratchet (both the toy and the movie render) as being unrealistic or not ambulance-y enough because of its color, yet EVERY ambulance i see is colored this way.

Where do these people live?? lol

[Jin Saotome]

Welcome Mr New Uzer, heheh!

Cutting plastic sucks, large pieces anyway. I use a jewelers hacksaw, the micro-fine teeth ones. That's for thick stuff like cutting arms in half and for hard plastic. For thin plastic like styrene or CD case material (which I made prime's clear orange part of the sword from) I just score it over and over again with an X-acto knife. You can also cut plastic with a drillbit in your Dremel set on high. Just don't apply too much pressure because it can snap, as you'll be using it to cut sideways and not straight up-n-down like it's suppose to be used. That's what I use for 90% of my cutting jobs.

[sdefedder]

Sonray is correct on this. movie rathcet is florescent "Dayglow" green. Many ambulances use the same color as detailing because it reflects light better than red making it more visble at night when struck by headlights.

I think its funny how so many people complain about this version of ratchet (both the toy and the movie render) as being unrealistic or not ambulance-y enough because of its color, yet EVERY ambulance i see is colored this way.

Where do these people live?? lol

Sorry we don't all live in America. Just thought he said Movie accurate. And around face needs to be darker. Part from the coloring its Good. Looked at stills too, more yellow needed

RATCHET

[Sonray]

Sonray is correct on this. movie rathcet is florescent "Dayglow" green. Many ambulances use the same color as detailing because it reflects light better than red making it more visble at night when struck by headlights.

I think its funny how so many people complain about this version of ratchet (both the toy and the movie render) as being unrealistic or not ambulance-y enough because of its color, yet EVERY ambulance i see is colored this way.

Where do these people live?? lol

Sorry we don't all live in America. Just thought he said Movie accurate. And around face needs to be darker. Part from the coloring its Good. Looked at stills too, more yellow needed

RATCHET

Thank primus we dont all live in america. Jeez that would be over populated wouldnt it. Im actually talking about UK ambulances though, cos thats where i live (says so under my user name )

The "yellow" you are referring to is caused by the lighting anf the type of paint that the real ratchet hummer and the cgi render uses. They use a type of paint that changes color based on the lighting. Its intended to look bright no matter how dull it is lit as its meant to be high visability.

Hence why it may APPEAR to be yellow at times, but obviously they arent going to use that type of expensive paint on a toy so they go with the color that the movie render and movie alt mode are most commonly seen in. Green.

[sdefedder]

rather have a yellow version like this though, looks better in my opinion.

[Sonray]

rather have a yellow version like this though, looks better in my opinion.

Do you know where i can find more pics like that but in a higher res? These are the sorta ref pics i need for my project!

[Barricade]

le gasp!!!!!! that starscream is just beautiful

[Nujevad]

Thanks for the advice Jin, I'll try it out.