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hello...we were just discussing that for 2nd version of Onslaught (if we can make it!!!)..we might ewant to do "blue edition"...no one character popular enough....but we have several characters and can make heads accessories for each....maybe we can sell enough of each to make whole order?

This is my we are "KOncept" art....we have crazy ideas.

Blue guys-

1. Centuruon (New, thank you, very smart!!!!)
2. Breacher (Movie character in Universe style)
3. Hot Shot Defense Mode (Galaxy Force character in Universe style)
4. Tow-Bot Hoist (Playskool charcater in Universe style...very fun!!)
5. Brakedown (Prime charcater in Universe style...our first idea!!)
6. Soundwave Earth mode (maybe?...popular charcater...but MP toy is very much loved...maybe make him Animated Soundwave version somehow?)
7. Real Scale Wheelie (Movie charcater in Universe style?)
8. Sentinel Prime (Animated charcater in Universe style...though maybe not best mold...)

We think with extra time to be ready, designer can probably make 8 sets of parts....we hope?...

konceptart wrote:hello...we were just discussing that for 2nd version of Onslaught (if we can make it!!!)..we might ewant to do "blue edition"...no one character popular enough....but we have several characters and can make heads accessories for each....maybe we can sell enough of each to make whole order?

This is my we are "KOncept" art....we have crazy ideas.

Blue guys-

1. Centuruon (New, thank you, very smart!!!!)
2. Breacher (Movie character in Universe style)
3. Hot Shot Defense Mode (Galaxy Force character in Universe style)
4. Tow-Bot Hoist (Playskool charcater in Universe style...very fun!!)
5. Brakedown (Prime charcater in Universe style...our first idea!!)
6. Soundwave Earth mode (maybe?...popular charcater...but MP toy is very much loved...maybe make him Animated Soundwave version somehow?)
7. Real Scale Wheelie (Movie charcater in Universe style?)
8. Sentinel Prime (Animated charcater in Universe style...though maybe not best mold...)

We think with extra time to be ready, designer can probably make 8 sets of parts....we hope?...

Please make Centurion, I would but him in a heartbeat!

konceptart wrote:hello...we were just discussing that for 2nd version of Onslaught (if we can make it!!!)..we might ewant to do "blue edition"...no one character popular enough....but we have several characters and can make heads accessories for each....maybe we can sell enough of each to make whole order?

This is my we are "KOncept" art....we have crazy ideas.

Blue guys-

1. Centuruon (New, thank you, very smart!!!!)
2. Breacher (Movie character in Universe style)
3. Hot Shot Defense Mode (Galaxy Force character in Universe style)
4. Tow-Bot Hoist (Playskool charcater in Universe style...very fun!!)
5. Brakedown (Prime charcater in Universe style...our first idea!!)
6. Soundwave Earth mode (maybe?...popular charcater...but MP toy is very much loved...maybe make him Animated Soundwave version somehow?)
7. Real Scale Wheelie (Movie charcater in Universe style?)
8. Sentinel Prime (Animated charcater in Universe style...though maybe not best mold...)

We think with extra time to be ready, designer can probably make 8 sets of parts....we hope?...

If you made a Soundwave it would be cool if some sort of accessory add-on allowed you to insert a cassette in the turret or under the shield.

konceptart wrote:hello...we were just discussing that for 2nd version of Onslaught (if we can make it!!!)..we might ewant to do "blue edition"...no one character popular enough....but we have several characters and can make heads accessories for each....maybe we can sell enough of each to make whole order?

This is my we are "KOncept" art....we have crazy ideas.

Blue guys-

1. Centuruon (New, thank you, very smart!!!!)
2. Breacher (Movie character in Universe style)
3. Hot Shot Defense Mode (Galaxy Force character in Universe style)
4. Tow-Bot Hoist (Playskool charcater in Universe style...very fun!!)
5. Brakedown (Prime charcater in Universe style...our first idea!!)
6. Soundwave Earth mode (maybe?...popular charcater...but MP toy is very much loved...maybe make him Animated Soundwave version somehow?)
7. Real Scale Wheelie (Movie charcater in Universe style?)
8. Sentinel Prime (Animated charcater in Universe style...though maybe not best mold...)

We think with extra time to be ready, designer can probably make 8 sets of parts....we hope?...

My ideas would include

Micromaster Groundshaker - http://www.tfu.info/1989/Autobot/Ground ... shaker.htm

GoBot Boomer Blast - http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Blast/blast.htm

Again a survey online, and then make the most popular sets.

Over on TFW2005 I asked KOncept Art for more info on their proposed Impactor (KOlydor), the 'Extra accessories' and the pledge ammounts.

Assuming they reach the $35,000 mark and production goes ahead, it will cost a minimum of $100 to get Impactor (or any other character which comes with a new head & weapons/extras) with his custom head and custom weapons, which includes the all important trademark shoulder cannon, and thats before any extra costs for shipping (over to the UK)!

Now, I would love to support this venture and have been active in trying to promote it here, but I have now realised if I want to gain a repainted knock off with a new head and weapons, Id be shelling out £100+ (yes Pounds not Dollars) which now feels like a bit of a let down.

I wish KOncept Art the best with their venture and really hope they succeed with which ever character or characters they produce but I now doubt I could justify getting behind this for the costs involved.

robotmel wrote::-?
Over on TFW2005 I asked KOncept Art for more info on their proposed Impactor (KOlydor), the 'Extra accessories' and the pledge ammounts.

Assuming they reach the $35,000 mark and production goes ahead, it will cost a minimum of $100 to get Impactor (or any other character which comes with a new head & weapons/extras) with his custom head and custom weapons, which includes the all important trademark shoulder cannon, and thats before any extra costs for shipping (over to the UK)!

Now, I would love to support this venture and have been active in trying to promote it here, but I have now realised if I want to gain a repainted knock off with a new head and weapons, Id be shelling out £100+ (yes Pounds not Dollars) which now feels like a bit of a let down.

I wish KOncept Art the best with their venture and really hope they succeed with which ever character or characters they produce but I now doubt I could justify getting behind this for the costs involved.

Sorry if I misunderstand, but $100US is about $60 UK pounds, and that is for the package that includes the trading card, body, head, accessories, box and custom painting. You should ask them if they will make a level that leaves out the custom box and hand painting. Even with it, this doesn't look like it will cost anywhere near 100 UK pounds.

Scaleface wrote:Sorry if I misunderstand, but $100US is about $60 UK pounds, and that is for the package that includes the trading card, body, head, accessories, box and custom painting. You should ask them if they will make a level that leaves out the custom box and hand painting. Even with it, this doesn't look like it will cost anywhere near 100 UK pounds.

Whenever i order something in USD and an exchange rate is suggested it always ends up being a few quid more, but thats the rate system eh!
Shipping toys in their package from overseas could be around the £20 mark, taking this buy to the best part of £100, give or take a few quid.

Worst case would involve crazy customs charges which could add up to another £50?

If I sit back and justify this against a 3rd Party figure on my wants list or a couple of official MP figures, well, i just dont know.....

You would pay through Paypal, so the conversion rate would be whatever they say, you can probably look that up. Doesn't this price include shipping to the UK? You shoud ask KAT.

so... question:

if you dont reach the 35K is it simply not going to happen? or will there just be a limited opening run? surely the capital you make for a small first run could fund your future endeavors correct?

(i say surely when i really mean hopefully. since i have no clue how these financial dealies work)

Scaleface wrote:You would pay through Paypal, so the conversion rate would be whatever they say, you can probably look that up. Doesn't this price include shipping to the UK? You shoud ask KAT.

As their pledge page says...

KOncept Art wrote:US SHIPPING ONLY, Non-US Backers will need to pay additional shipping charge.

shajaki wrote:so... question:

if you dont reach the 35K is it simply not going to happen? or will there just be a limited opening run? surely the capital you make for a small first run could fund your future endeavors correct?

(i say surely when i really mean hopefully. since i have no clue how these financial dealies work)

This is VERY important for everyone to undrstand.

-We cannot do a smaller run, goal is based on the minimum order required from the factory for the custom colored toy

-If the project does not reach it's goal
---NO ONE is charged any money
---NO TOYS GET MADE
---Probably the factory won't do any more business with us

-Even if you don't like the charcaters we're doing today EVERY FAN WHO LIKES THE IDEA OF OUR PROJECT SHOULD PLEDGE AT LEAST A SMALL AMOUNT
---You don't have to pay ANY money right now
---You will not be charged if we fail to meet our goal
---If you help us meet our goal for this project, THEN we can do other characters/molds

It's now or never!!!!!

konceptart wrote:

shajaki wrote:so... question:

if you dont reach the 35K is it simply not going to happen? or will there just be a limited opening run? surely the capital you make for a small first run could fund your future endeavors correct?

(i say surely when i really mean hopefully. since i have no clue how these financial dealies work)

This is VERY important for everyone to undrstand.

-We cannot do a smaller run, goal is based on the minimum order required from the factory for the custom colored toy

-If the project does not reach it's goal
---NO ONE is charged any money
---NO TOYS GET MADE
---Probably the factory won't do any more business with us

-Even if you don't like the charcaters we're doing today EVERY FAN WHO LIKES THE IDEA OF OUR PROJECT SHOULD PLEDGE AT LEAST A SMALL AMOUNT
---You don't have to pay ANY money right now
---You will not be charged if we fail to meet our goal
---If you help us meet our goal for this project, THEN we can do other characters/molds

It's now or never!!!!!

See its stuff like this that bothers me. I dont like the idea of putting it on the fans. Thats a tough goal to reach. I think you should just take out a loan from a bank to make the run happen. If the item is as hot a seller as you predict, youll recoup to pay the loan no problem. Projects like these almost never materialize. Whatever happened to that nova prime mold that the wanted people to pledge ? Zilch. I understand you are not trying to make a profit and I totally respect that. But it is your innovation, so you should be putting the cash on the line. I really want one. If you had them for sale right now, you got my money. But Im just not comfortable throwing my credit card number around without a stone cold guarantee. Why dont you go to a online vendor that doesnt mind selling KOs and propose the project ? Im sure one will back the project in full if they see a possibility for profit. I would gladly pay a bit more to go through a dealer.

Rated X wrote:Projects like these almost never materialize.

The BMOG Toys Kickstarter happened, and the two Transformers collectors books were Kickstarter projects. These do work sometimes.

We only need to sell less than 1000 at very fair (same as retail) units to be able to fund project....if 1000 fans aren't interested...why bother with making figure?

There is no risk to you or your credit card...please pay through paypal...you will not be charged anything today...if the project fails you will not be charged anything...ever..if the project succeeds then you get charged for toy you want.

Crowdfund is very safe and very fair way to start a business...many groups use this method...even in TFs BMOG was born this way.

We not asking for anything hard...just click a pre-order button that says "yes, I want one."

Why is that so hard? People do the same with BBTS every day based on just shillouette and name of toy for much higher price.

But you are welcome to your feelings...we wish you much happiness!!!

The thing about bbts is that they dont just do transformers, they do all kinds of comic and movie stuff so the company is worth millions. If they are willing to touch it, its gonna happen. I see an issue with 1000 collectors buying one because it is a KO. Im an avid supporter of KOs but unfortunately most hardcore TF fans are anti KO. They have a blind loyalty to hasbro and seem to care when someone other than hasbro profits off of their mold. I bought almost every CHMS seeker varaitio at full price and had them first. But even to this day companies that deal KOs are still trying to liquidate them. I remember the first run of CHMS rainmakers was supposed to be limited to 200. Those sold out so they did a 2nd run with a couple improvements which you can still find for sale to this day. They overshot the 2nd run. So a run of 1000 KOs is overshooting in my honest opinion. A more realistic goal would be 250-500. Granted a smaller run would cost you more, but thats why you get an investor to front you the money. Im fairly confident that bbts decided to gamble on kronos and fronted the designer the money for a smaller run. Im gurssing thats why the price is on the high side. Have you considered reaching out to ace toy store, sir toys, or robotkingdom ? They sell KOs.

Wish you luck on this project. Love your high spirit enthusiasm and faith in this. hope you succeed and meet your goal.