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5150 Cruiser wrote:

Primus1101 wrote: You sir, should read some scripts I'm working on. The Transformers ain't second to no-one here! Hell, I find difficulty in writing human scenes apart from military scenes.

I'm sure its very easy to write a script that involves primarly the Transformers. The problem is doing such a movie would probbly mean a $500+ million budget. Good CGI isn't cheap. Like it or not, humans will always be a strong part of the movieverse.

What about in high-quality, really cool, really great Stop-motion? I've seen Nightslash2020! It can be done! And I personally think that that would sell toys cus you know what your getting! XD

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I really wanted ROTF to end with a battered Megatron and Starscream floating through space. Then a bright light and big, booming voice... "Welcome, Megatron...."

That would have made the move sooooo much better/.

Lol, funny you say that because thats the cliffhanger ending I was expecting Season 2 of TFA to have. Unicron however still needs a break from Transformers after the harsh reptetive treatment in the UT, and as for the Minicons...They are something we should all forget.

I SAY YES TO THE MINI-CONS.... As long as they are like the Appliancebots or Frenzy!

What were those little bots that made the bigger robot in the military bunker to break out the shard? Were they minicons or something else? (Personally, I thought that scene was wicked!)

I see the future...if Unicron appears,innevitable comparisons with the '86 movie will be done and if he not please some,they will bash the movie to death,so splitting the fans...

But i see a bright future.

Oh, Transformers is going to be bashed forever. If they made the whole thing nothing but the Transformers, then you're going to have people that b!tch about not enough humans. If they do put in popular Transformers, they b!tch that they were not how they imagined them to be. Look, you got people b!tching about the way Optimus Prime looks, fights and was portrayed in ROTF, even though IMO, I found him more bad ass than he ever was in the cartoons. But, there you go. At 700 million WW, the movie has more fans that like the movie than hate it, so I don't see any reason for the producers to drastically change the formula they are using.

But,I have been writing to Michael Bay's fan club, and asked him to make Sideswipe a major character in the next movie. He listens if you make your voice heard. He heard how people didn't like Bumblebee's voice in the end of the first one, so he did what you guys asked, got rid of it. He also heard how you all wanted more Decepticons and more Megatron and Starscream bickering, and he gave that to you all. As for the Unicron, I think they'll save that for a much later movie. Possibly movie 5. (Transformers is going to be 6 sequel movie, I feel it. It's our modern day Star Wars.)

I've been haunting around for about 2 years now and finally had to put my two cents in. I agree with that the mi-cons should not be in any part of the movie-vers too much aincent history has been done in these last two movies I think now it should be more about the power struggle in the here and now.To do more back story in the 3rd movie is mabey over kill,by now fans of the francise should be up to speed.Good to be part of the site now-good disscusions and good natured

Maybe the minicons could be heralds for him. Like the Silver Surfer was to Galactus.. They scout the planets to set up which planet will be next devoured.

Just a thought.

I am not a fan of the Minicons and for Unicron.. How would they destroy him since there is no matrix?

Mini-Cons? I know I'm almost alone here, but...YES!!!! Armada was awesome, and Movie-verse Minis=PURE WIN!
Unicron?YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Iamwarhorse wrote:Oh, Transformers is going to be bashed forever. If they made the whole thing nothing but the Transformers, then you're going to have people that b!tch about not enough humans. If they do put in popular Transformers, they b!tch that they were not how they imagined them to be. Look, you got people b!tching about the way Optimus Prime looks, fights and was portrayed in ROTF, even though IMO, I found him more bad ass than he ever was in the cartoons. But, there you go. At 700 million WW, the movie has more fans that like the movie than hate it, so I don't see any reason for the producers to drastically change the formula they are using.

But,I have been writing to Michael Bay's fan club, and asked him to make Sideswipe a major character in the next movie. He listens if you make your voice heard. He heard how people didn't like Bumblebee's voice in the end of the first one, so he did what you guys asked, got rid of it. He also heard how you all wanted more Decepticons and more Megatron and Starscream bickering, and he gave that to you all. As for the Unicron, I think they'll save that for a much later movie. Possibly movie 5. (Transformers is going to be 6 sequel movie, I feel it. It's our modern day Star Wars.)

People always have different opinions,but waht matters it your opinion.I though it was awesome.

Nemesis Rodimus wrote:Mini-Cons? I know I'm almost alone here, but...YES!!!! Armada was awesome, and Movie-verse Minis=PURE WIN!
Unicron?YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I liked armada.

Nemesis Rodimus wrote:Mini-Cons? I know I'm almost alone here, but...YES!!!! Armada was awesome, and Movie-verse Minis=PURE WIN!
Unicron?YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you mean yesss.....

This was the best comment I saw on this article at RT:

lol @ "Unicron would dwarf emotion" BECAUSE EVERYONE SAW TRANSFORMERS FOR THE ACTING, RIGHT?!

Good god, what a terrible human being. Get your head out of Michael Bay's ***, dude.

Ha ha ha, my point exactly.

I think Lorenzo needs to broaden his horizons and get over his giant character phobia. there have been tons of successful interactions between giant characters and or props which have left more then enough room for the "puny humans". The whole finale of Star Wars (The first first first one) was a showdown on the Deathstar. Independence Day was full of city sized foes including the showdown in the Mother Ship. Hell even 2009 Star Trek had a great showdown with the Mining Planet Destroying Ship. I think this could work out in the formula of Unicron being the Autobots take the fight to Unicron whilst riding Omega Supreme. As for disconnecting the Human aspect of the film...I find it funny this is really an issue being ROTF was nothing but hot chicks, explosions, and Robots. God forbid we threaten the human characterization of this formula right?

I also think if your going to feature small characters, yet shy away from big ones....pick something with a little more punch then the Mini-cons. I mean you have the Insecticons to still touch up on. Or any number of Soundaves minons be it Laserbeak or Rumble.

Also, two main characters I would love to see are the Dinobots and Triplechangers. Astrotrain for one would be awesome! And being if Unicron is involved in the third film....Astrotrain would be a must.

If Bay does finally take the helm of TF3, I predict we'll see something along the lines of Armageddon meets Transformers. In which case I hope they get Bruce Willis!

However from this Interview, I can see that Paramount is already in talks about TF3, and they don't seem like they're going to wait on their hands for Bay to finally antie up. For all his high explosive gusto, he doesn't seem to have the endurance to carry on this franchise. Peter Jackson strangley does, being he made all three films of the LOTR series at once while shooting out of order (Meaning he short scenes for ROTK one week, and then Fellowship another...guys a genius) and each film alone is twice as long. Hell he even shot more footage which we didn't even see till they came out with the extended cuts. George Lucas is another example, being the Star Wars legacy is no small feat in terms of CGI and creating entire worlds! Then blowing those worlds up!!!!!

I say bring on new blood. Mostly because I would like to see another interpretation of this series personally.
Laters,
Josh

I say no to Unicron. Not as he is with in previous incarnations either the 86 movie or the unicron trilogy. Megatron already played second fiddle to the Fallen. Id like see him on top of the food chain or atleast be competing for with Shockwave than another Uber being step on his toes. I personally hate Unicron, for one his name is spelled very close to Unicorn, which makes him lame for that alone heh. What the heck is going fight a planet sized being besides plot devices. I dont see Unicron as a villain I see him as a plot device. An over used one at that. Unless he was just made a large powerful transformer, hes too dang big as a planet to be really interesting.

I dont see Unicron ever appearing in the Bay films. He wizs all over scale which they ve tried hard to keep. I for one like bad guys that hero can actually beat up themselves cause makes for a heck of alot better action scenes that light our darkest hour..dead we saw in 86. He puts transformers in space, which moment they are in space its giant robots fighting not robots in disguise. Why season 3 transformers mostly turned into crap that didnt disguise them on earth. The Alt modes become superflueous and ugly.(plus earth alt modes are easier to film.) Not saw they cant have events happening in space like them visiting the Nemesis or in orbit like soundwave, but the major story needs be on earth.

Which budgeting an all transformer live action film isnt going happen. Humans ground the film to reality, as this transformers in real life, not G1 2.0. If they wanted to do an all transformers series, then animated or CG like something pixar does would been a better direction. Which the public needs the human characters to round off the hard edges of an other wise nerdcentric series. Plus gives them something to wreck, and blow up thats cheaper to film heh. Over all it be a huge mistake to radically change the formula this far into the game.

As for Minicon..meh Ill pass. I mean we have smaller robots like wheelie already appearing. He atleast transforms into something small but it made sense that looks like a car cause it was a toy one. Most the minicons looked like smaller vechiles, which made no sense. They just did because...(which no of the transformers were shown picking earthly alt modes either.)They just seemed look simliar to them purely by some odd chance.

I d love see the Stunicons and Aerial bots appear. I think Bay could have alot of fun with the Stunticons. They seem like a natural fit. I can only hope they get used, evne if they have make two sets like the constructicons did. I think cars might be easier to do that with make something that can make a limb and robot mode. Both the toys and movie makers ran into same probelm with devastator and the constructicons.

I say bring on new blood. Mostly because I would like to see another interpretation of this series personally.

I say wait a few years for that. I want Bay finish up what hes got going. When hes done, someone can reboot it and do their own spin on it. What every other aspect of transformers has done. I doubt movies will be different as they make too much money for hollywood not make more of them.

Minicons?

Awesome! The Pokemon of the Transformer world. These guys so want to make an Armada movie.

Tidal Wave anyone?

Have TF3 lead into a story about Unicron for TF4...



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Some people are screaming about how Minicons and Unicron can potentially spoil TF3.

Others are saying it will make TF3 epic.

All I can think of is the sight of Counterpunch drooling over his keyboard at the sight of leaked movieverse Minicon toy prototype pictures, eh heh heh heh.

Mkall wrote:No Unicron, no Minicons please

kthxbye

Agreed! I love the idea of Unicron, don't get me wrong, but if he's going to wind up with a moon-sized set of nuts hanging off of him or as a wacky cloud (Fantastic Four 2), I'd rather not see him in the movie.

And no more concepts from the transformers playbook. We've done pretenters, triple changers, power-up, and combinders all in one move. How about a solid story, less slap-stick, and more Transformer character development/interaction for a start. In reality, how about no more Michael Bay.

And for god sakes, give Prime a trailer!

Cyber Bishop wrote:I am not a fan of the Minicons and for Unicron.. How would they destroy him since there is no matrix?

The ISS has a rail gun.

I have a feeling that in TF3 minicons are definatly going to be in the movie only because they had jetfire and prime combine. and as for unicron im praying he is not in the movie b/c its not going to work oh end dont complain when unicron comes on and has a total of 2 min screen time as he will way to big and costly to create

I shall sit here and dream of it like this. TF3 introduces mini-cons, and maybe even dinobots ending peacefully of sorts with N.E.S.T becoming E.D.C. as both the humans, including Marissa Fairborne and Autobots (with Omega Supreme?) reach out into the galaxy. The Decepticons however have developed their own transport, Tidal Wave. Oh and Maggie Madsen returns and becomes Circuit Breaker. Somehow.

TF4, absolute homage to the animated movie. Unicron as a looming threat ending with Unicron versus Primus with Prime at the core for a truly stellar scale and showdown. This ends with the return of the Golden Age. However jazz things up with some variance, Circuit Breaker has allied with the Decepticons to further her own ends. Maybe even have Sam die between TF3 and TF4 leaving Mikaela alone with a daughter, Danielle.

I dunno, maybe it's the influenza, but a guy can dream...

...accidentally transported to Cybertron along with the Transformers when Primus sought to unite all his children against the chaos bringer Unicron. Upon arriving on the planet, Circuit Breaker fell into a catatonic state as her phobia of a planet full of robots overwhelmed her human mind. However, she did awake as Unicron descended, and attacked him with her own power, weakening and distracting the chaos bringer long enough for Optimus Prime to destroy him with the Matrix of Leadership.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Breaker_(comics)

I would rather have Unicron than mini-cons, but that's not to say i wouldn't want Mini-cons. i actually really liked the Mini-con concept of them being able to power up the regular Transformers. I just had a hard time accepting them as a"third race" of Transformer. They transformed, and some were good and some were bad. Basically, I viewed them as tools. (As in instruments, not as in some posters and mods here)

But I agree with Lorenzo on the Unicron-Galactus comparison. Galactus was FUBAR big time in FF2. IF Unicron is to appear, the entire Unicron story needs to be told in the movie from beginning to end. No harking back to TF or RoTF. OR, just have a good Mini-con story, and have the ending RodimusConvoy proposed for the 3rd movie, to set up the 4th and LAST movie. (Let's not "Rocky" this thing, OK? I love Transformers, but I can only take so much in such a short time)

Also, if Bay directs 3 (and possibly 4) I am fine with that. If he leaves, as long as Spielberg or one of the Scott brothers or maybe James Cameron takes over (someone who knows action) that would be fine. BUT THESE TALENTLESS HACKS THEY CALL "WRITERS" HAVE TO F**KING GO!!! Orci and Kurtzman are worthless when it comes to this property. Hopefully someone can revive and redeem this franchise. Please, someone give Simon Furman a WGA membership.

Primus C-00 wrote:Maggie Madsen returns and becomes Circuit Breaker. Somehow.

That's a good idea. And Rachael Taylor is better looking than Megan Fox.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Please, someone give Simon Furman a WGA membership.

You wouldn't want Furmanisms in TF3, would you?

It's official RoTF is better the second time around.