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Over at TFW, they are saying this is a Voyager scaled toy.

Think the Locomotive train design is better than the new bullet train design the 1.0 toy had.

If this toy is priced under $100, Then I'm going to consider buying it.

Pretty sad hastak can't do something like this...

well, it's a nice picture

NOS wrote:Pretty sad hastak can't do something like this...

Actually, I think this looks a lot like their G1 toy, with perhaps some added articulation.

Agamemnon wrote:

NOS wrote:Pretty sad hastak can't do something like this...

Actually, I think this looks a lot like their G1 toy, with perhaps some added articulation.

That's kind of what I mean though. Hastak could produce this figure easily if they used the figure in your pic as a basis. Instead we have to wait and hope a 3rd tackles the character in a way that does it justice. Just sorta sad.

Im all in !!! Originzlly I wanted a smaller blitzwing but this will work nicely...

NOS wrote:Pretty sad hastak can't do something like this...

No kidding.. I like this toy and if the actual sculpt looks similar I will plunk the cash on this sucker..

My curiosity is piqued.

NOS wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

NOS wrote:Pretty sad hastak can't do something like this...

Actually, I think this looks a lot like their G1 toy, with perhaps some added articulation.

That's kind of what I mean though. Hastak could produce this figure easily if they used the figure in your pic as a basis. Instead we have to wait and hope a 3rd tackles the character in a way that does it justice. Just sorta sad.

But, Has/Tak, outside of MP (and wouldn't an MP Astrotrain be nice) has been re-imagining these characters. Nothing they have produced in the modern era since Classics Prime and Megs has been so close to the G1 toys. (Again, with the exception of the MP Line.) I'm just trying to wrap my head around what you are expecting from Has/Tak given their pattern of toy design.

And as I was thinking about this, I suppose the Classics Seekers could be considered something akin to what you are talking about. And maybe Rodimus. So I guess there is precedence for such a thing from Has/Tak. I withdraw my comment...

Still, I like Classics Astrotrain. This is intriguing, but I don't think I'm interested enough to pay the price for a 3P voyager to replace a figure I generally like.

I'll wait until it's something more than fanart from an unknown companyh before getting committed.

That said, voyager size please.

Noticed the Train mode has a locomotive with another train car attached to it. Wondering if that extra Train car is a detachable piece. or if it's part of the transformation for all Three modes of this toy. Suspose it would be cool if that extra train car detached and formed armor add on pieces for the robot mode.

That extra train car looks like it's some kind of cargo storage thing. That perhaps stores coal.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Noticed the Train mode has a locomotive with another train car attached to it. Wondering if that extra Train car is a detachable piece. or if it's part of the transformation for all Three modes of this toy. Suspose it would be cool if that extra train car detached and formed armor add on pieces for the robot mode.

That extra train car looks like it's some kind of cargo storage thing. That perhaps stores coal.

It's the coal hopper. All steam locomotives needed coal storage somewhere. It's what fed the fire under the boiler that created the steam. #TrainGeekToo

Agamemnon wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Noticed the Train mode has a locomotive with another train car attached to it. Wondering if that extra Train car is a detachable piece. or if it's part of the transformation for all Three modes of this toy. Suspose it would be cool if that extra train car detached and formed armor add on pieces for the robot mode.

That extra train car looks like it's some kind of cargo storage thing. That perhaps stores coal.

It's the coal hopper. All steam locomotives needed coal storage somewhere. It's what fed the fire under the boiler that created the steam. #TrainGeekToo

I said it was a train car with coal in it and I already knew it's purpose. I've watched enough old Western movies where they showed guys with shovels loading coal in the train furnance.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Noticed the Train mode has a locomotive with another train car attached to it. Wondering if that extra Train car is a detachable piece. or if it's part of the transformation for all Three modes of this toy. Suspose it would be cool if that extra train car detached and formed armor add on pieces for the robot mode.

That extra train car looks like it's some kind of cargo storage thing. That perhaps stores coal.

It's the coal hopper. All steam locomotives needed coal storage somewhere. It's what fed the fire under the boiler that created the steam. #TrainGeekToo

I said it was a train car with coal in it and I already knew it's purpose. I've watched enough old Western movies where they showed guys with shovels loading coal in the train furnance.

Yeah, but it's not an ordinary train car. All steam locomotives need some sort of coal hopper to feed the boiler. If it is a separate car, like appears in this drawing, it is called the tender. (It took me a bit to remember that it is called a tender.)

The way you phrased your original post, it appeared you did not know what it was. The train geek in me filled in the blanks there.

Tender on a steam locomotive:


Typical coal hopper (for moving bulk amounts of coal across the country)

Agamemnon wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Noticed the Train mode has a locomotive with another train car attached to it. Wondering if that extra Train car is a detachable piece. or if it's part of the transformation for all Three modes of this toy. Suspose it would be cool if that extra train car detached and formed armor add on pieces for the robot mode.

That extra train car looks like it's some kind of cargo storage thing. That perhaps stores coal.

It's the coal hopper. All steam locomotives needed coal storage somewhere. It's what fed the fire under the boiler that created the steam. #TrainGeekToo

I said it was a train car with coal in it and I already knew it's purpose. I've watched enough old Western movies where they showed guys with shovels loading coal in the train furnance.

Yeah, but it's not an ordinary train car. All steam locomotives need some sort of coal hopper to feed the boiler. If it is a separate car, like appears in this drawing, it is called the tender. (It took me a bit to remember that it is called a tender.)

The way you phrased your original post, it appeared you did not know what it was. The train geek in me filled in the blanks there.

Tender on a steam locomotive:


Typical coal hopper (for moving bulk amounts of coal across the country)

The 1985 toy just had the Locomotive. Speculating if the extra part on the 3rd party train was detachable or not.

Wondering if that extra part detaches and just sits there when the toy is transformed into Robot and shuttle modes. Thought It would be cool if that extra part broke up into armor pieces for the robot mode.

I could do without the hopper. Transformers dont need coal. Hopefully it sits off to the side and turns into some kind of gun base like rodimus trailer...

What extra part are we looking at ? all i can see is that satellite thing , looks like the trains all one part to me .

Autobot Genocide wrote:What extra part are we looking at ? all i can see is that satellite thing , looks like the trains all one part to me .

Agreed. It seems like something weird to fixate on. I was just pointing out that the tender is a necessary part of the old steam locomotives. It makes sense to include it as part of the vehicle mode. I have no idea why it would appear to separate from the locomotive. I don't get that feeling from looking at the picture.

Plus, I just like talking about trains. And planes. And automobiles for that matter.

Agamemnon wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:What extra part are we looking at ? all i can see is that satellite thing , looks like the trains all one part to me .

Agreed. It seems like something weird to fixate on. I was just pointing out that the tender is a necessary part of the old steam locomotives. It makes sense to include it as part of the vehicle mode. I have no idea why it would appear to separate from the locomotive. I don't get that feeling from looking at the picture.

Plus, I just like talking about trains. And planes. And automobiles for that matter.

Looking at the picture i would assume the back end of the train will be his legs ?

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:What extra part are we looking at ? all i can see is that satellite thing , looks like the trains all one part to me .

Agreed. It seems like something weird to fixate on. I was just pointing out that the tender is a necessary part of the old steam locomotives. It makes sense to include it as part of the vehicle mode. I have no idea why it would appear to separate from the locomotive. I don't get that feeling from looking at the picture.

Plus, I just like talking about trains. And planes. And automobiles for that matter.

Looking at the picture i would assume the back end of the train will be his legs ?

Can't tell where much goes from looking at that picture.

Don't like the Coal hopper. It means were getting a short small Locomotive instead of a full Voyager scaled one. The locomotive plus coal hopper will be a voyager scaled alt mode combined.

Still hoping the Coal hopper is a detachable piece. Hoping it's not a part of the shuttle and robot mode. Wouldn't mind if the Coal hopper formed armor pieces for the robot mode like boots,forearms,weapons and shield. Think it would be cool if the coal hopper armor turned a voyager robot into a Ultra scale robot mode.

Another idea for the detachable Coal hopper is for it to form the lift off base platform for the shuttle mode.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:What extra part are we looking at ? all i can see is that satellite thing , looks like the trains all one part to me .

Agreed. It seems like something weird to fixate on. I was just pointing out that the tender is a necessary part of the old steam locomotives. It makes sense to include it as part of the vehicle mode. I have no idea why it would appear to separate from the locomotive. I don't get that feeling from looking at the picture.

Plus, I just like talking about trains. And planes. And automobiles for that matter.

Looking at the picture i would assume the back end of the train will be his legs ?

Can't tell where much goes from looking at that picture.

Don't like the Coal hopper. It means were getting a short small Locomotive instead of a full Voyager scaled one. The locomotive plus coal hopper will be a voyager scaled alt mode combined.

Still hoping the Coal hopper is a detachable piece. Hoping it's not a part of the shuttle and robot mode. Wouldn't mind if the Coal hopper formed armor pieces for the robot mode like boots,forearms,weapons and shield. Think it would be cool if the coal hopper armor turned a voyager robot into a Ultra scale robot mode.

Another idea for the detachable Coal hopper is for it to form the lift off base platform for the shuttle mode.

Um...what? There is no indication that the pieces separate. The tender is a part of the locomotive (except in rare cases of really small switching locomotives where the coal hopper is attached directly to the locomotive). It does not have to detach. It can remain connected to produce the voyager scale you are begging for. Why are you fixated so much on disconnecting the hopper? Why are you assuming that it will disconnect and not be a part of the figure's transformation (or the shuttle, if I am inferring correctly)? This is borderline trollish behavior, in my estimation. I tried having fun with it, but you do not appear to be getting the point.

Agamemnon wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:What extra part are we looking at ? all i can see is that satellite thing , looks like the trains all one part to me .

Agreed. It seems like something weird to fixate on. I was just pointing out that the tender is a necessary part of the old steam locomotives. It makes sense to include it as part of the vehicle mode. I have no idea why it would appear to separate from the locomotive. I don't get that feeling from looking at the picture.

Plus, I just like talking about trains. And planes. And automobiles for that matter.

Looking at the picture i would assume the back end of the train will be his legs ?

Can't tell where much goes from looking at that picture.

Don't like the Coal hopper. It means were getting a short small Locomotive instead of a full Voyager scaled one. The locomotive plus coal hopper will be a voyager scaled alt mode combined.

Still hoping the Coal hopper is a detachable piece. Hoping it's not a part of the shuttle and robot mode. Wouldn't mind if the Coal hopper formed armor pieces for the robot mode like boots,forearms,weapons and shield. Think it would be cool if the coal hopper armor turned a voyager robot into a Ultra scale robot mode.

Another idea for the detachable Coal hopper is for it to form the lift off base platform for the shuttle mode.

Um...what? There is no indication that the pieces separate. The tender is a part of the locomotive (except in rare cases of really small switching locomotives where the coal hopper is attached directly to the locomotive). It does not have to detach. It can remain connected to produce the voyager scale you are begging for. Why are you fixated so much on disconnecting the hopper? Why are you assuming that it will disconnect and not be a part of the figure's transformation (or the shuttle, if I am inferring correctly)? This is borderline trollish behavior, in my estimation. I tried having fun with it, but you do not appear to be getting the point.

The 1985 toy was just the Locomotive minus the Coal Hopper tender. Having this 3rd party Locomotive plus Coal Hopper share the Voyager scale alt mode. Means The Locomotive part is basic or deluxe scale. As it is only Half of the voyager train alt mode.

I'm assuming the Coal Hopper is detachable because I can't figure where it goes on the Robot and Shuttle modes pic that shows all Three modes of this toy. Also most HasTak trailers and accessories are detachable. Like most Optimus trailers, P-38 Megatrons gun extensions. FP Menasors second trailer.

This isn't the 1985 toy...

Y'know what? I'm done with this discussion. Back to talking about the picture.

This Astrotrain looks pretty cool. It looks to keep many of the cues from G1 Astrotrain, but with better articulation, which is what we could expect from 3Ps today. The shuttle mode actually looks the weakest of the three. It's a little boxy around where the bay doors would be. I'd guess this has to do with making the locomotive mode look good, though either the shuttle "bay" would be on the bottom of the locomotive or they could use the boiler of the locomotive to create the rounded bay look. At any rate, though I am satisfied with Classics Astrotrain, I will keep an eye on this one. Who knows? If it's cheap enough, I'd probably bite. I love me some trains, and this looks better to me with the tender than the naked locomotive of G1.

Agamemnon wrote:This isn't the 1985 toy...

Y'know what? I'm done with this discussion. Back to talking about the picture.

This Astrotrain looks pretty cool. It looks to keep many of the cues from G1 Astrotrain, but with better articulation, which is what we could expect from 3Ps today. The shuttle mode actually looks the weakest of the three. It's a little boxy around where the bay doors would be. I'd guess this has to do with making the locomotive mode look good, though either the shuttle "bay" would be on the bottom of the locomotive or they could use the boiler of the locomotive to create the rounded bay look. At any rate, though I am satisfied with Classics Astrotrain, I will keep an eye on this one. Who knows? If it's cheap enough, I'd probably bite. I love me some trains, and this looks better to me with the tender than the naked locomotive of G1.

Think the coal hopper is a bad idea because Astrotrain doesn't use coal to power himself up. Having the Coal hopper tender is useless for Astrotrain as it makes his train mode longer, less manuaverable and slows him down. Hoping it's a detachable piece, So I can toss it in the garbage.

What's the point in adding a Coal hopper when Astrotrain was just a locomotive in the 1985 toy line and Fiction. Might as well just add more useless pieces like extra train cars, Train Tracks, Stop lights, Flags and Turn signals. Then place everything in a gift box and put a $300 price tag on this.

Thought the 1.0 Astrotrain toy was one of the worse of the 1.0 toy line. So, I think another toy version needs to get made. If I had my way HasTak would be creating Masterpiece Eight to Nine inch toys for Astrotrain and Blitzwing.