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News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:38 pm

From TFW, Comparisons pics of MP-10 and Astrotrain. In front of the same Madlaw box.

The pic with MP-10 Next to MP Sideswipe. Is to show that both Machine boy Astrotrain and MP Sideswipe come up to the same are on MP-10's area on his robot torso.

So it appears Machine boy Astrotrain and MP Sideswipe are the same robot tall height of 6.4 from head to toe.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:42 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

I appreciate the thought, but how about taking a pic with, maybe, Henkei Astrotrain and Gen Blitzwing, in front of the box with an attempt to match the angle of the preview pic?

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:49 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:

I appreciate the thought, but how about taking a pic with, maybe, Henkei Astrotrain and Gen Blitzwing, in front of the box with an attempt to match the angle of the preview pic?

These are not my pics, These pics are from the TFW Forum.

I don't own that Madlaw quickswitch toy.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:53 pm

The name of the Third party company making this toy is in this pic.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:02 pm

Wait a minute- this is a bootleg of DX9's Astrotrain! Machine Boy are the guys who did the KO of Hercules IIRC.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:14 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:The name of the Third party company making this toy is in this pic.

MB are well known for their KO have been for years and while its nice to know who is doing this im not sure what to expect from this company.

looking at the pic of mp10 it looks like AT might be a little shorter than the white stripe on OP forearm ??

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:42 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:Wait a minute- this is a bootleg of DX9's Astrotrain! Machine Boy are the guys who did the KO of Hercules IIRC.

Autobot Genocide wrote:MB are well known for their KO have been for years and while its nice to know who is doing this im not sure what to expect from this company.

Looking at the Machine boy Astrotrain pic, I'm not shocked that this is a KO company making this toy. As I think the Machine Boy Astrotrain test shot sculpt looks a bit simplistic, undersculpted, overly blocky. not that much detail put into the blocky areas in the sculpt. The plastic looks low quality and light on the test shot. Think about the only thing this Astrotrain has going for it. Is the well proportioned robot mode sculpting.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:16 am

Machine Boy/Meng Badi have been knocking off official Transformers for years. Theyre like a high quality version of CHMS for want of a better description! :lol:

As Tsu mentioned, members over on TFW2005 boards have been trying to estimate a height/scale with a combination of various photos etc so I thought it might help folk here to see them also so great minds can debate alike!

(All credit to TFW2005 board members)

Choo Choo needs MOAR coal.jpg

Edit: Hey Tsu could we get the thread retitled to reflect Machine Boy as the producer?

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:27 am

So it's a KO of an existing 3rd party AT and at MP scale?

Oh, well.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:35 pm

robotmel wrote: Hey Tsu could we get the thread retitled to reflect Machine Boy as the producer?

Done, Just edited out the subject title to reflect the companies name.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:12 am

More interested if Machine Boy ever decides to turn those CAD art files of Omega Supreme and Skylynx into toys.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:22 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:More interested if Machine Boy ever decides to turn those CAD art files of Omega Supreme and Skylynx into toys.

No kidding! (Especially Sky Lynx).

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:59 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Wait a minute- this is a bootleg of DX9's Astrotrain! Machine Boy are the guys who did the KO of Hercules IIRC.

No, it seems to be an original design. DX9's toy looks different, as does Toyworld's and Justitoys.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Sat May 23, 2015 12:50 pm

Image courtesy of Weibo/MengBadi.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:00 pm

That actually looks quite good! Glad to see they kept the chest wing- he looks oh so dull without it. And no dumb partsforming plank like on Chigurgh!

Providing the scale is good he could very well be a perfect MP Astrotrain.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:11 pm

He actually fits the MP aesthetic quite nicely, aside from the chest piece.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat May 23, 2015 2:44 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:That actually looks quite good! Glad to see they kept the chest wing- he looks oh so dull without it.

Also like the chest wing, as it give him more detail on the chest.

by **necr0blivion** » Sat May 23, 2015 4:02 pm

It looks alright, but the main question for me is: will this ever see release?

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat May 23, 2015 5:40 pm

An interesting improvement from a company who previously focused on KO-like figures. Let's see where this goes...

by **Rated X** » Sat May 23, 2015 6:56 pm

Personally, I hope he is voyager scale so he looks good next to Hasbro Blitzwing. Even better if that annoying chest wing folds in to give him more of a cartoon look.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat May 23, 2015 7:58 pm

A few replies above, some members here have already guessed this toy will be Voyager class. Baes off pics provided in this thread.

Based off pics, Think this is a Small 6.6 inch tall robot Deluxe-Voyager like the MP Cars bots. This won't scale evenly with HasTak 30th Blitwing as Blitz has a 7 and 1/4 tall robot height.

Since the chest wing has a bent articulation thing in the middle. And their is a huge slit gap in the chest. Can only assume this means the chest wing can fold in or out of the robot chest.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat May 23, 2015 8:09 pm

This cheap looking KO quality toy here shows buying off scale is the wrong reason to buy expensive Third party toys.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Sat May 23, 2015 8:17 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Looking at and discussing the actual toy. Think this toy looks rather simplified in sculpt, engineering. Has a almost KO toy look and feel to it like that Bold Forms Lone Wolf MotorMaster toy.

seems to have fewer parts count, not as complex, not as high quality compared to TW Evila Star and DX9 Chigurh.

Seems like this toy was made on a short cuts budget and by a KO company that specializes in making Cheap inferior toys. Think it was mentioned by some members on the TFW Forums, That Machine Robo also makes Low quality KO toys.

No, I said they made KOs and cheap toys for the Chinese kid market. This is their first attempt at something for the collector market. I don't mind that it seems to have the G1 Transformation with added size and ball joints. That's actually a plus in my book. Hopefully the fact that they have factories and mass produce things will keep the price down. Their version of Springer and Ironhide sell for $7-14 in Chinese stores, and you can import them for $30-40.

by **Rated X** » Sat May 23, 2015 8:20 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:A few replies above, some members here have already guessed this toy will be Voyager class. Baes off pics provided in this thread.

Since the chest wing has a bent articulation thing in the middle. And their is a huge slit gap in the chest. Can only assume this means the chest wing can fold in or out of the robot chest.

But if were going by the height of the FP Madlaw box, this is clearly a MP scale figure that will tower over MP Blitzwing. (not counting tank barrel) I want an Astrotrain that is the same height as Blitzwing. I dont care about alt mode scale or the fact that he is a shuttle. I am a supporter of mass shifting. So I guess this will be the 3rd Astrotrain figure I gotta pass on. :-(

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat May 23, 2015 8:42 pm

Rated X wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:A few replies above, some members here have already guessed this toy will be Voyager class. Baes off pics provided in this thread.

Since the chest wing has a bent articulation thing in the middle. And their is a huge slit gap in the chest. Can only assume this means the chest wing can fold in or out of the robot chest.

But if were going by the height of the FP Madlaw box, this is clearly a MP scale figure that will tower over MP Blitzwing. (not counting tank barrel) I want an Astrotrain that is the same height as Blitzwing. I dont care about alt mode scale or the fact that he is a shuttle. I am a supporter of mass shifting. So I guess this will be the 3rd Astrotrain figure I gotta pass on.

Their is no MP Blitzwing toy. That pic is 30th Blitzwing. :lol:

Machine Boy Astrotrain comes up Two maybe three lines shorter than 30TH Blitzwing does on that mad law art lines box. So it's doubtful MB Astrotrain will have a taller robot height. Machine Boy Astrotrain will be a almost a head shorter than 30TH Blitzwing.