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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Wed May 02, 2018 9:05 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Okay bronzewolf, which staff member did you insult in order to be forced to watch this series?

:lol: It's a love hate relationship. I'm a hardcore MST3k fan, so I enjoy sitting and making fun of it. I enjoy writing the jokes/image captions. I don't enjoy the series. It was actually voluntary in the beginning. I just wanted something to review. :lol: Va'al had the comics, and I was almost never able to get any new toys before everybody else, so I took Combiner Wars. Worst/best decision ever.

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Bronzewolf wrote:I wish I could say that they've fixed everything, or that it's even an improvement over the last series, but I honestly can't. The mouth movements are worse, the animation feels rushed, the writing is still terrible, the voice direction and some of the acting isn't good, and there's glaring continuity errors that are just glossed over. There isn't enough story to fully critique yet, so I'll reserve my judgement for the full series until more episodes are released, but I don't harbor a lot of hope.


Perfect review Bronzewolf, I like how you say it like it is. And I am in complete agreement.

I use no hyperbole when I say that this is the worse TF fiction I have ever bore witness to. Granted I have never looked into Kissplayers but I have watched all the Bay films.


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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby horus » Thu May 03, 2018 11:59 am

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is there a place were european fans can watch the episode online?
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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 03, 2018 12:04 pm

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horus wrote:is there a place were european fans can watch the episode online?
https://transformersprimewars.tumblr.com/post/173471320499/transformers-prime-wars-trilogy-s3e1-the-swamp
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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby horus » Thu May 03, 2018 12:05 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby bluecatcinema » Thu May 03, 2018 12:45 pm

On the subject of Perceptor drowning: Maybe there was something in the swamp that would mess up his internal workings if he was down there too long?
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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 03, 2018 12:50 pm

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bluecatcinema wrote:On the subject of Perceptor drowning: Maybe there was something in the swamp that would mess up his internal workings if he was down there too long?
No need to rationalize it. This kind of dumbness goes all the way back to G1, in which there were cases like when Galvatron tried to choke Hot Rod in the 1986 movie.

Hot Rod started gasping and gagging in desperation to breathe.

In space.

Where there is no air.
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Samoa Joe on Voicing Predaking in Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes

Postby Va'al » Sun May 06, 2018 2:00 am

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A new interview over on ESPN gives us a little insight into one of the characters showing up in the third chapter of the Transformers Prime Wars trilogy series on Machinima - the Predacon combiner Predaking - and its voice actor Samoa Joe, a professional wrestler from TNA, Ring of Honor, NXT and WWE. He talks about his approach to the role and interest in the Transformers franchise, and his excitement for the gig. Take a read below, see the whole piece here, and join the discussion in the comments!

Even though Joe was out of commission for a few months at the start of 2018, he remained busy with another major step forward in his life and career with his biggest voice-acting role to date.

After lending his voice to the Game of Thrones: A Telltale Games Series and Dota 2, Samoa Joe took on the role of Predaking in Transformers: Power of the Primes. Joining a cast of heavy hitters that includes Mark Hamill, Ron Perlman, Jaime King, Wil Wheaton and Judd Nelson, among many others, Samoa Joe slipped naturally into a role that he was seemingly destined to play.

"I grew up watching Transformers," he said. "I think it was one of the first cartoons that I started watching as a kid. It was awesome. I would set my clock every morning before I went to school. It was a big part of my childhood.

"It was easy to throw myself in the character, it was fun," Joe continued. "As a child, I think everybody imitates their favorite cartoon character in some form or another when they're playing. To find themselves as a grown adult -- getting that chance and having it actually become part of that cartoon is a real cool thing."

Transformers: Power of the Primes, which debuted on Tuesday on go90 and tumblr, allowed Joe to channel the most villainous elements of his character while embracing passions from his past. He'll have a similar opportunity after Sunday once he settles into his new home on SmackDown Live, with familiar faces and new opponents alike.

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"I play Predaking -- what happens when all the Predacons, which are these vicious animal robots that combine together," said Joe. "Predaking's basically this character who -- without giving away any spoilers -- he's on a hunt and he's looking to find his prey by any means necessary. He's a very violent individual, he's a very vicious individual, and when the producers were kind of looking around and wondering who to cast that role, I think my name was on of the forefront."


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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby steve2275 » Sun May 06, 2018 2:02 am

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samoa joe is one of the best heels in wwe
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Re: Machinima Transformers POTP Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun May 06, 2018 5:07 am

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Used to watch Samoa Joe in TNA for years being awesome at his job. Good times.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 08, 2018 6:18 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue May 08, 2018 6:37 am

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The Matrix of Chaos in this show looks nothing like its toy, instead using the old BotCon 2000 design of the Matrix of Conquest.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue May 08, 2018 10:51 am

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ok, so it could be that I am in just a foul mood as it is, but that 2nd episode was one of the worst things I've ever seen period. I don't even want to waste summarizing all the wrongness from it. It's like someone took many of the characters I like and did the exact opposite of what should be done... :BOOM:
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue May 08, 2018 10:56 am

Sabrblade wrote:The Matrix of Chaos in this show looks nothing like its toy, instead using the old BotCon 2000 design of the Matrix of Conquest.

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You know what? That's....actually pretty cool. Certainly more unique than just a recolored Matrix.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue May 08, 2018 11:48 am

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o.supreme wrote:ok, so it could be that I am in just a foul mood as it is, but that 2nd episode was one of the worst things I've ever seen period. I don't even want to waste summarizing all the wrongness from it. It's like someone took many of the characters I like and did the exact opposite of what should be done... :BOOM:

Haven't you described the majority of this trilogy? ;-)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue May 08, 2018 12:34 pm

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What a boatload to unpack. Ugh. Review coming at the normal time, around 2 Pacific. Stay Tuned!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue May 08, 2018 12:39 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
o.supreme wrote:ok, so it could be that I am in just a foul mood as it is, but that 2nd episode was one of the worst things I've ever seen period. I don't even want to waste summarizing all the wrongness from it. It's like someone took many of the characters I like and did the exact opposite of what should be done... :BOOM:

Haven't you described the majority of this trilogy? ;-)


yeah, but even in the dumpster fire that these series have been. There were a few embers that made me think *huh...that's kind of cool*...very, very few, but still they were there. This was just...like Bronzewolf said....ugh.... I wanted to say Volcanicus roaring was cool...but I cant even bring myself to do that.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue May 08, 2018 1:31 pm

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Skritz wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The Matrix of Chaos in this show looks nothing like its toy, instead using the old BotCon 2000 design of the Matrix of Conquest.

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You know what? That's....actually pretty cool. Certainly more unique than just a recolored Matrix.


It's cool until you realise it's the first image result that comes up when you google "Matrix of Chaos". Knowing this show and this production team, I'd wager it wasn't intentional.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue May 08, 2018 2:11 pm

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o.supreme wrote:ok, so it could be that I am in just a foul mood as it is, but that 2nd episode was one of the worst things I've ever seen period.

It's not your mood (unless I'm in a foul mood as well which I don't think I am). The dialogue in that episode was a **** joke. It felt like it was written by an amateur.

Victorion was an utter joke every time she spoke.
Volcanicus "searching" involved stomping around in a circle.
Victorions plan to distract Volcanicus with something shiny seemed to work better on Megatron.
Predaking sounded less like Samoa Joe and more like Matt "Broken" Hardy.
Megatronus' head ... ughhhh I can't take him seriously every time I see him because of that head.

First part was okay, but any tone it set has been rapidly undone by this second part.
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Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 2 Airs Online

Postby WreckerJack » Tue May 08, 2018 2:33 pm

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The second episode of Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes is now ready for watching. You can find it here on Go90.com. If you are not in the US or Go90 doesn't work for you you can watch on Machinima's official Tumblr page. You can thank Sabrblade for pointing this out to us. Again we will leave you with just the episode description to avoid spoiling anything for you. If you missed the first episode, we have the information here. Enjoy!

Megatron awakens miles away to find a mysterious structure. Curious, he makes his way there, leaving his team to fend for themselves. Vulnerable without him, the team is on the brink of defeat at the hands of Volcanicus when another threat arrives hoping to destroy them.


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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Tue May 08, 2018 3:00 pm

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I have been trying to watch it but I get the spinning circle of doom. I'll leave my thoughts once my router cooperates.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue May 08, 2018 3:02 pm

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Another Tuesday brings another episode of Machinima's Power of the Primes cartoon. Last week we discussed episode one, and it was not great, to say the least. Will episode two do any better? Will it fare any worse? Let's find out, as we dive into Volcanicus!

(I also suppose I should warn you that the following review does contain spoilers for the POTP Cartoon, just in case. You can read my review of episode one here.)

We jump in where the first episode left off, in the "Primal Forest", with Victorion, Windblade, and Perceptor fighting the newly formed dinobot combiner, Volcanicus.

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Uh, roll credits, I guess?

Similar to the last episode, this scene is riddled with bizarre continuity errors that just make no sense, and could have been resolved with simple editing. We're introduced to our first one here: Our heroes are trying to come up with a plan to take down Volcanicus, as they recognize they should be searching for the Requiem Blaster before it falls into Megatronus' hands. Windblade blames Victorion for making the Dinobots so angry they had to combine, saying they had them "Under control" (Suuuure), when Volcanicus tries to step on them. They appear surprised, as if they couldn't see him coming from a mile away. They decide to try to find Megatron, but Victorion says she doesn't need his help.

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How does one get snuck up on BY A GIANT ROBOT DINOSAUR COMBINER?!

Speaking of old Megs, we catch back up with him, as well. After being thrown miles away (a distance described in the official episode summary) into the swamp by Grimlock in the last episode, he wakes up...ten feet from where Volcanicus and the main cast are?

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?!?!?

Nearby, he sees a convenient odd glint of light in the forest. He decides to go investigate, leaving the rest of the crew to fend for themselves.

The scene changes and we finally see Devastator, Computron, and Menasor again, currently being questioned by Overlord and..."Rodimus Cron" Menasor swears he doesn't know anything about where Megatron and the others have gone, and Rodimus responds by shooting Computron through the chest, apparently dead now.

Devastator also gets shot through the chest, but survives. Overlord compliments Rodimus on his firepower, and has a flashback to him pulling the "Matrix of Chaos" out of Unicron's decapitated head. Megatronus (through hologram) congratulates Overlord for finding it. Something to notice here is the the Matrix of Chaos uses the Botcon 2000 design for the Matrix of Conquest. An interesting trivia bit pointed out by Seibertronian Sabrblade. Anyway, Devastator and Menasor decide to take them on, but they aren't strong enough, and Devastator gets shot through the chest again, launched through the air, and still survives.

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What is physics?

Menasor gets his fist crushed by Overlord, and then gets kicked around for his trouble. Again to the show's credit, between DashieXP's vocal performance and an actually expressive face animation for once, this scene is quite painful and desperate. Even though Menasor only gets his hand crushed, it feels violent and dramatic. I just wish some of that drama and weight would carry over to other parts of the series. Character's deaths in particular.

Back in the swamps, Windblade and crew are still dealing with Volcanicus. The grand plan that Victorion came up with is to have Perceptor distract Volcanicus while the other two attack. Perceptor decides to do this by pretending to be a researcher who wants to ask Volcanicus a few questions, even though not only did Vocanicus just see him two seconds ago, but Grimlock identified him by name last episode.
However bad of a plan it is, it works for long enough to let Victorion take a swing at the Dinos, showing that she's nearly the same size, compared to earlier in the episode where she was dwarfed by Volcanicus.

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Just when it looks like all hope is lost and Vocanicus has them beat, Predaking emerges from the swamp, taking out the Dinobots. He demands to know where the Enigma of Combination is. We cut away just as he decides to blast Victorion. We'll have to wait till episode three to see how that turns out.
Samoa Joe, a new actor to the Trilogy, actually puts on a great performance as Predaking from what we've seen so far of him. He's not really the traditional voice for the character, but it works well in my opinion.

Back at Metroplex City, the two remaining combiners are getting torn to shreds. Overlord Demands answers out of Menasor, and orders Rodimus to continue shooting Devastator until he gets them. Devastator gets an arm and a leg blown off before Menasor talks. He tells Overlord that Megatron headed to the Primal Swamp. Overlord orders Devastator killed anyway, and then kills Menasor by...(checks notecards) gently pushing on the back of his neck.

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Devastator dies by a dozen shots straight through the spark from an agent of Unicron, and Menasor dies from an aggressive backrub. Got it.

Overlord and Rodimus then start their journey to the swamp, and the episode ends.

Episode two was arguably an improvement over the season opener, though I'm not sure if that's a complement, nor if it's good enough. It certainly doesn't instill faith into the rest of the series. It feels like it's just spinning it's wheels, getting nowhere, even though it's already introduced the majority of the main cast now, and they are all on separate missions. Episode two felt too much like filler with no point or purpose, and there's no tone to speak of. While bits and pieces work, the majority doesn't, especially with an angering amount of random continuity problems plaguing both episode one and two which, and correct me if I'm wrong, weren't as prevalent in either of the two previous shows. We'll see where it goes from here.

Thanks for reading my review of Machinima's Power of the Primes episode 2! If you want to watch it for yourself, you can find it on the Go90 platform and the Transformers Tumblr account. Make sure to share your thoughts on the episode and my review in the comments below, and then tune in next Tuesday when we'll take a look at episode three!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Qwan » Tue May 08, 2018 5:22 pm

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To be honest, the coolest moment (or I guess, the only cool moment?) to me was seeing Volcanicus open his mouth to roar. I guess I never thought about his mouth working that way, but it gives me pleasant thoughts of Unit-01 (or any of the other Evas too, I guess). That aside... yeah, not much to praise here.

In particular, how come Devastator can get a hole blown through his chest and be basically fine, but when the same happened to Optimus he was dead before he hit the ground? Consistency is not this show's strong suit, obviously, but like... of course the moment they decide to show characters actually getting physically damaged, it raises even more continuity questions. This show just can't catch a break.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue May 08, 2018 6:02 pm

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Qwan wrote:To be honest, the coolest moment (or I guess, the only cool moment?) to me was seeing Volcanicus open his mouth to roar. I guess I never thought about his mouth working that way, but it gives me pleasant thoughts of Unit-01 (or any of the other Evas too, I guess). That aside... yeah, not much to praise here.

In particular, how come Devastator can get a hole blown through his chest and be basically fine, but when the same happened to Optimus he was dead before he hit the ground? Consistency is not this show's strong suit, obviously, but like... of course the moment they decide to show characters actually getting physically damaged, it raises even more continuity questions. This show just can't catch a break.


Yeah, I thought about touching on that, the whole "never showing damage" thing. Speaking of, volcanicus got frickin' blasted by Predaking without a scratch.
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Postby WreckerJack » Tue May 08, 2018 7:21 pm

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I think it could have been better. Some of the action was really good but I wish they would take out some of the awkward anime grunts and close ups.

I wonder if Victorion will get her arm back at some point. I don't even remember how she lost it at this point.
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