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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby bvzxa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:03 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Well that 1 step garbage must sell...and hasbro is a business, so going where the money is isn't a bad strategy. Also didn't the rid cast all get toys? So wouldn't that be like g1?


Well who knows...you have some number of actual sales to show it was a bonanza for Hasbro and the Transformers line?? It wasn't that great of a show or toy line. A lot of those figures were on clearance. Only a few notables here and there so I dont see what you're getting at. Hasbro is more than Transformers so saying RID was paramount for the company and the line of Transformers itself is highly dubious. I guess you're a fan of the RID(aligned) series so everyone must cheer lead yaah!!. The show and 97% of the toy line was garbage...yeah I said it.

(I forgot this is pro-Hasbro territory here)

So like I was saying...
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:22 pm

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I was thinking about the character deaths in this show, and the ones before, it, and I compiled a list of all the characters to show up and the ones who died. And it's quite amazing at how much more drastic the permanently kill rate was in PotP.

The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.

List:
    Combiner Wars
    Menasor (died, resurrected)
    Computron (died, resurrected)
    Maxima (died, permanent)
    Windblade
    Optimus Prime
    Megatron
    Long Haul
    Scrapper
    Scavenger
    Rodimus Prime
    Mistress of Flame
    Starscream (died)
    Victorion
    Devastator
    Metroplex
    Fort Max's face

Titans Return
    Trypticon (died, permanent)
    Starscream (shown to not have died, then die again)
    Perceptor
    Windblade
    Stormclash
    Menasor
    Computron
    Victorion
    Devastator
    Megatron
    Metroplex (died, permanent)
    Emissary
    Fort Max
    Mistress of Flame (died, permanent)
    Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Cron (spiritual death of Rodimus Prime)
    Overlord
    Optimus Prime (died)
    Megatronus
    seekers (all died, permanent)

Power of the Primes
    Megatron (died, permanent)
    Windblade
    Perceptor
    Grimlock
    Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus (spiritual death like Rodimus Prime can apply here)
    Slug
    Swoop
    Snarl
    Sludge (died, permanent)
    Volcanicus (died, permanent thanks to Sludge death)
    Computron (died, permanent)
    Menasor (died, permanent)
    Devastator (died, permanent)
    Victorion (died, permanent)
    Predaking (died, permanent)
    Megatronus (died, permanent)
    Solus Prime (died, permanent, twice sort of)
    Overlord (died, permanent)
    Rodimus Cron/Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron died spiritually)
    Emissary
    Optimus Prime (resurrected)
    Starscream (apparently never died and still won't)

so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:

Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)

Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)

Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)

Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)

Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)

Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)

Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die

Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)

Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)

Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)

So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby bvzxa » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:31 pm

Motto: ""Power flows to the one who knows how. Desire alone is not enough""
Weapon: Fusion Cannon
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I was thinking about the character deaths in this show, and the ones before, it, and I compiled a list of all the characters to show up and the ones who died. And it's quite amazing at how much more drastic the permanently kill rate was in PotP.

The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.

List:
    Combiner Wars
    Menasor (died, resurrected)
    Computron (died, resurrected)
    Maxima (died, permanent)
    Windblade
    Optimus Prime
    Megatron
    Long Haul
    Scrapper
    Scavenger
    Rodimus Prime
    Mistress of Flame
    Starscream (died)
    Victorion
    Devastator
    Metroplex
    Fort Max's face

Titans Return
    Trypticon (died, permanent)
    Starscream (shown to not have died, then die again)
    Perceptor
    Windblade
    Stormclash
    Menasor
    Computron
    Victorion
    Devastator
    Megatron
    Metroplex (died, permanent)
    Emissary
    Fort Max
    Mistress of Flame (died, permanent)
    Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Cron (spiritual death of Rodimus Prime)
    Overlord
    Optimus Prime (died)
    Megatronus
    seekers (all died, permanent)

Power of the Primes
    Megatron (died, permanent)
    Windblade
    Perceptor
    Grimlock
    Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus (spiritual death like Rodimus Prime can apply here)
    Slug
    Swoop
    Snarl
    Sludge (died, permanent)
    Volcanicus (died, permanent thanks to Sludge death)
    Computron (died, permanent)
    Menasor (died, permanent)
    Devastator (died, permanent)
    Victorion (died, permanent)
    Predaking (died, permanent)
    Megatronus (died, permanent)
    Solus Prime (died, permanent, twice sort of)
    Overlord (died, permanent)
    Rodimus Cron/Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron died spiritually)
    Emissary
    Optimus Prime (resurrected)
    Starscream (apparently never died and still won't)

so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:

Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)

Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)

Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)

Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)

Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)

Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)

Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die

Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)

Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)

Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)

So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.

Fun facts, hope you enjoyed!


Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:36 pm

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bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:45 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:46 pm

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I doubt we'll see any more of this timeline to be honest, given the toylines fresh start (still betting it's another reason IDW choose now to do a reboot) if they go down this road again it will be either pre war or during. Might even be how they'll tell the story of impactor vs mirage. Of course if they do go down that route, please make sure the studio who does it has a bigger budget, and a better writing team.

Also no where did I state I was a fan of rid, I'm more of a comics fan these days. My point was that they wouldn't make one steps if they didn't sell. I mean that's why the titans returns boxsets were scrapped right? Because the ones before didn't sell. I would never want people to cheer lead, as we all have our opinions, it's just when they are presented as fact that I speak out.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:05 pm

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bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great ;)^
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:53 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great ;)^
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:49 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great ;)^
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.

And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:57 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:01 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:06 am

Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!


Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes? :-D
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 am

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Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great ;)^
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.

And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
No, I'm with ya on that. I'm not expecting much from Cyberverse, so I'm doing what I did for Rescue Bots and just hoping for something that's merely but adequately decent if not great. Like you say, It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised again.

In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.


ZeroWolf wrote:Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?
TV show, yes.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:11 pm

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Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!


Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes? :-D

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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:13 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!


Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes? :-D

....I cannot confirm nor deny....
You're not at liberty to say, eh?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

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Sabrblade wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!


Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes? :-D

....I cannot confirm nor deny....
You're not at liberty to say, eh?


LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:17 pm

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So, this is interesting...

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/

With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:19 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!


Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes? :-D

....I cannot confirm nor deny....
You're not at liberty to say, eh?


LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:44 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?

No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.

Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great ;)^
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.

I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.

And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
No, I'm with ya on that. I'm not expecting much from Cyberverse, so I'm doing what I did for Rescue Bots and just hoping for something that's merely but adequately decent if not great. Like you say, It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised again.

In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.


ZeroWolf wrote:Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?
TV show, yes.


It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade. :(
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:46 pm

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Skritz wrote:It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade. :(
Good thing it isn't.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:59 pm

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Skritz wrote:It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade. :(


"Good" Is all relative, but that's about where I am as well, only one Really Great TF show that really impresses me comes along, about every decade or so.

Transformers (1984)
Beast Wars (1996)
Car Robots (2000)
Prime (2010)

The rest range from good to horrible, but these 4 are really the breakout hits for me. I know some might think Car Robots is an odd choice, but I specifically enjoy it, over Hasbro's RiD dub, and was fortunate enough to see most of it before it aired on US TV in the fall of 2001. It came at a time when I thought we'd never go back to vehicle Transformers, and had some great new designs, as well as a fresh take on some old ones. It's quirky and stands out, but for me in a good way.

The 11 minute format just isn't long enough IMHO to tell a decent action story. Most shows that have gone to this format are the mind-numbing comedies that CN puts out. And , well... if Machinima is any indication, unfortunately we've seen how *well* a short form action series does. I mean, if its going to be on TV, I'm sure Cyberverse will have to have more coherent writers, but I've been wrong before.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:59 pm

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o.supreme wrote:So, this is interesting...

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/

With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?

They have the alternative in their Tumblr site, it's what the rest of the world had to use.

And geez it's a shitty platform.
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The Final Countdown: Machinima Power of the Primes Episode 9 REVIEW

Postby Bronzewolf » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:37 am

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Well, this is it. It's the final Tuesday for Machinima's Power of Primes cartoon, and we have just more episode to catch up on before we can cover the Finale that dropped earlier today. The battle for three ancient Transformers relics continues, so read on as we take a closer look at episode 9, Megatronus Unleashed.

(Note: The following review contains spoilers fro the Power of the Primes cartoon and the Prime War trilogy)

We start exactly where 8 left us, with Rodimus Cron having just been upgraded by Unicron, standing at the entrance to the Well of Sparks, having turned against his former ally Megatronus.

Rodimus takes the first shot, and Megatronus kinda just stands there.
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Real nail-biting action there, guys. Well done.

This episode also brings the return of one of my personal gripes with the last few episodes of the previous show:

SPLIT FRAMES!!!!

*lightning flashes*

If you read any of my reviews for the previous show, you know these were sloppily put into the series in what felt like a last minute decision. They just suddenly started popping up, and didn't really feel like the flowed well with the rest of the series. The animators/screenwriters apparently decided to bring them back in this show, as they rear their ugly heads once again.
Now, this is not to say that sudden editing/tonal shifts in a show can be a bad thing. It's a slippery slope, yes, but they can sometimes work out. The cinematic shots in a previous episode were one of the biggest highlights from this show for me. They looked really cool, added something to the story, were well executed, and while they weren't there from day one, they were a welcome change. The split frames are none of those things. They feel awkward, give the show bad pacing, and leave room for some strange animation for the character that isn't currently speaking, but is forced on screen anyway.

Aside from the fact that they didn't even bother to animate his mouth, Rodimus' upgraded form suffers from some desperately bad audio mixing. He sounds muffled and distorted, and you can only hear bits and pieces of his dialogue. Between the overly loud music and Rodimus' sound difficulties, it makes this scene, and a majority of scenes after it, difficult to understand.

I don't just want to nitpick, though, so let's get on with the story. Rodimus and Megatronus finally clash, and the pay off for this scene is about as exciting as you'd expect. But, to give the show it's due credit, it is more engaging and action packed than previous episodes, with some really cool imagery thrown in for good measure. The filmography and color palette combine in certain shots to great effect. It's actually one of the most satisfying fight sequences the entire trilogy has produced.

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Bane was more understandable than this.

The Autobots are finally released from their pillars of fire as Megatronus is distracted in the battle. They immediately set to work dismantling the Infinity Gauntl-sorry, the relic machine. Optimus Primal works on the Matrix of Leadership, and discovers it's calling to him. He removes it from the machine as the rest of the relics are released. This, of course, sets the target of both Megatronus and Rodimus on Primal, as they both want it for themselves. Grimlock and Windblade get blown away off the machine, and Grimlock wonders how they're alive. Windblade explains it's because Megatronus is getting weaker, although they've been shot by Megatronus several times before with no damage, so this revelation doesn't land with the power that the screenwriters I think intended. It would have been nice to see this shown in some way, make his blasters start to fizz out, make him look physically tired, etc.

Megatronus charges up a super attack as Solus begs him to stop, even though all the relics have been detached from the frame, so it isn't clear how she's still being powered. Just as the blast is about to hit the heroes, Optimus Primal uses the Matrix to protect them. Despite this, Megatronus continues the barrage in frustration. The Matrix has chosen Primal, however, and starts to transform him. For some reason, a shot of Perceptor is overlaid through this entire shot, and it's not really clear why. He's not exactly important to this scene or Primal's transformation. Or, at least, not more important than any other cast member. It doesn't help that Perceptor doesn't change his facial expression through the entire shot.

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Isn't it nice to have this emotionless face slapped on top of what should be an emotional, vital scene?

The Matrix turns Primal into Optimal Optimus, fully connecting him to his Power of The Primes toy. Almost immediately he gets tackled by Rodimus Cron, who beats him to the ground. This is the second awkwardly long punching sequence in the series, where a character who should be able to at least fight back against whoever is beating them up, just get repeatedly punched in the same 1-2 motion. It gets to be strange and could have been solved by quicker editing.

Primal finally throws Rodimus off of him, but Rodimus recovers, and the battle continues into the next episode.

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Can you imagine trying to explain this screenshot to someone who hasn't seen any TF show since Beast Wars?

As the series (and the trilogy) gets in to it's final moments, it feels a bit like they're trying to throw in everything they were mandated to but couldn't fit in prior. The inclusion of Megatronus' apparent grand scheme doesn't really fit, especially with the events of the previous shows. Megatronus' different attack moves are, and have been, a highlight. It gives a nice creative piece in the show, and it's honestly fun to see everything this Transformer god can do. The imagery of the Megatronus/Rodimus fight is great, as well. The pacing felt especially bad in this episode, however, and it's sad to see that the majority of it could have been solved by simple editing. As far as the actually concept of the show goes, while I can see it being a potentially controversial choice to have Optimus Primal to step into the Prime position to some, I personally have no problem with it, and enjoy just the ridiculousness of the mash up of some of these characters. We'll see how it all wraps up with the last episode!

If you haven't seen this episode yet, you can find it on the Go90 platform. Go check it out and then come back and tell me what you thought of it in the comments below. Do you agree or disagree? Please let me know! Thanks for reading, and I'll see you soon when I take a crack at the finale!
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:49 am

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Almost caught up now Bronze :-) just one left! Then you're freeeeeeee...
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Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Postby BumbleDouche » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:04 am

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I love these reviews, but this show (and its predecessors) are such a convoluted, nonsensical mess that it's impossible to do anything but laugh, they really deserve more ridicule.
I mean, G1 & even the exalted Beast Wars had their moments with goofy scripts, exposition or plotlines, but the "nostalgia goggles" allow us to ignore all but the most obvious missteps in storytelling... This show, on the other hand, acts as if it *wants* incoherent drivel & craptastic fight sequences to be their defining legacy for future generations lol
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