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Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Victorion Design by Andrew Griffith

Postby Va'al » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:54 am

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After yesterday's Devastator concept lineart from IDW artist Andrew Griffith for Machinima's Transformers: Combiner Wars animated series, we also have another of his designs - courtesy of his Twitter account - for a gestalt character: the fan-made combiner Victorion, from the Torchbearers/Rust Renegades team! Check out our gallery of the toy here, and a review of her first appearance in IDW right here, then compare Sara Pitre Durocher's concepts to the art by Griffith below.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:19 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Didn't even foresee that those intro movies were a red herring? Designed to confuse/cover up the plot?

I have the feel of the Underbase Saga. Old SS is gonna get the "hives" from being ODed with the enigma and explode in the end. Or see Jeebus aka Primus at the end of the tunnel and repent.
Except it was extremely obvious what Starscream was up to and plotting in the Underbase Saga, what with all his asides that made his plans perfectly clear to the readers. In that story, there was no lying to the audience.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:57 pm

:lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:30 pm

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1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream... Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.


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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot N » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:52 pm

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1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:29 pm

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Autobot N wrote:
1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.
:???:


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You've got to be kidding me.

He's not.

I preferred the character development, but poor Screamer fell victim to the show
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:03 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.
:???:


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You've got to be kidding me.

He's not.

I preferred the character development, but poor Screamer fell victim to the show


I liked Screamer as he was first introduced. This show really needs to have had longer episodes though. I wanted to see why Screams acted the way he did. How he got where he was. Unless we get a comic to go along with the same story, I'm not satisfied. At least he looks cool combined with all the combiners though.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Gaudreau » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:43 pm

It's been a mediocre show, but I enjoy it for what it is. I wish there were more characters and character development; but I get it's hard to do that in a 5 minute show. I look forward to the new shows and that's that
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:58 pm

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Gaudreau wrote:It's been a mediocre show, but I enjoy it for what it is. I wish there were more characters and character development; but I get it's hard to do that in a 5 minute show. I look forward to the new shows and that's that


More characters to "SELL" that is. The primary purpose for this is just its a very flashy advertisement divided into many parts.
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Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Posters, by Srisuwan, Grant, Antoin, Guidi

Postby Va'al » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:07 am

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We sort of missed on these when Machinima first shared them last month, but they seem to be making the rounds again via social media and artists sharing them - so we thought to highlight their existence again! Check out below four promotional pieces of art for the animated series Combiner Wars, featuring some of the major players in the show, as imagined by Guido Guidi, Chris Antoin, Keron Grant, and Skan Srisuwan!

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby MarkNL » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:16 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:03 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:05 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:33 am

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Wouldn't it have been nice to see these kinds of scenes in the show itself?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Guido » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:30 am

The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too :)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:33 am

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Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too :)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:33 pm

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Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too :)

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:42 pm

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Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too :)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Guido » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:11 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too :)
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This is pretty cool.

Thanks for stopping by sir, I am a big fan of your work!


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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:19 pm

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Man this is some nice art. If only the show had these awesome scenes.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:45 am

Kurona wrote:Again, I... I really don't get it. All the kibble's there, transformation is used as a plot point, as a way to build mystery and intrigue; while other series use transformation as... just a thing they can do and that's it. Sorry if it sounds like I'm singling you out; but I've heard IDW described by quite a few people as the one series to not use transformation when it's the one series to really actually take advantage of transformation.


IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
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Postby Autobot N » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:47 am

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:54 am

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Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
Not this again.
Lemme guess, this is gonna lead to another eventual round of "They should bring back to G1 cartoon!" again, isn't it. >:oP
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:08 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:IDW is garbage, has been since day one.
Not this again.
Lemme guess, this is gonna lead to another eventual round of "They should bring back to G1 cartoon!" again, isn't it. >:oP


No, but it's no Dreamwave.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:16 am

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Episode 7 - https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_92b2644504054b28a8b694748ea11c87

Oh, but OF COURSE this episode would contain more of the recycled TFTM lines that we so haven't already heard a million times before. With a title like THAT, why wouldn't it?!

As to the episode itself... I could barely make heads or tails of it. At first, it kinda seemed like this show tried to justify Starscream's actions from the end of last episode by having him monologue with a sound, rational mind and not sounding like his selfish old self and such, but the points he was making were too vague to tell if he was speaking from his reformed perspective or from his original ambitious backstabber perspective. He needs to survive to the end of next episode and get turned back to normal for us to really see why he did what he did.

I say all this because, not long after his monologue, he pretty much breaks into madness and all chaos lets loose from the power of the Enigma. And here's where things get more haphazard than ever. Windblade sees the destruction that Enigma Starscream is causing and feels SAD about it. But wasn't this exactly what she wanted earlier in the show? To have all of the Cybertronians killed off? She's had practically zero character growth in this show for her now feeling sorry for Cybertron to not look like a rushed and forced attempt at pathos (which it totally does). And then when she gets hurt and falls to the ground, there's sad music and slow motion playing all around to signal our, the viewers', needing to feel sad about Windblade's condition, when she's been so completely unlikable up to this point as to hardly warrant any kind of empathy from the viewers.

Oh, and her fans can totally repel the force of a black hole. Yeah, that's a thing now, for some reason. And there's a black hole now, because why not?!

Meanwhile, Optimus was probably at his best here, performance-wise, and Cy-Kill masquerading as Megatron is still fun.
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