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Are the Macross Jetfires the same quality and the G1 Jetfire TF?

I kinda want to pick one up...

well, that depends on what valkyrie you buy. a Bandai reissue or original Takatoku(expensive, even for a Macross collector) are the same quality as a G1 Jetfire but Yamato`s are significantly BETTER then that with the inclusion of more optional weaponry and a much more articulated bot in the 1/48 scaled versions. the 1/60 Yamato`s are about similar but aren`t "perfect variable" or in TF terms, they`re partformers.

Ok cool thanks, I been checking some out on ebay.

I forgot to ask what scale (or how many inches tall) are they? Its been years since I had a Jetfire and I don't remember.

If you can afford them, by all means get the Yamato ones. I picked up most of the original Toynami masterpiece release. I wish I had spent the extra cash to get the Yamato valkyries.

Grahf wrote:If you can afford them, by all means get the Yamato ones. I picked up most of the original Toynami masterpiece release. I wish I had spent the extra cash to get the Yamato valkyries.

but be warned...you buy one you are going to be tempted to buy more.

Gutter Bunny wrote:

Grahf wrote:If you can afford them, by all means get the Yamato ones. I picked up most of the original Toynami masterpiece release. I wish I had spent the extra cash to get the Yamato valkyries.

but be warned...you buy one you are going to be tempted to buy more.

QFT!I am looking as much forward to a new valkyrie as to a new TF and I KNOW each one is more expensive then an MP transformer...(okay, not MP-04 "perfect" Convoy) but STILL I drool when another is announced, new mold or repaint alike...and it doesn`t stop with just Macross either...Mospeada by default is prone to that aswell due to the assosiation made with Robotech...(though the Toynami/Aoshima Alpha/Legioss isn`t worth masscollecting due to shoddy finish/design)no wonder I`ve not had my own car in a few years now...

Black Arachnis wrote:

Gutter Bunny wrote:

Grahf wrote:If you can afford them, by all means get the Yamato ones. I picked up most of the original Toynami masterpiece release. I wish I had spent the extra cash to get the Yamato valkyries.

but be warned...you buy one you are going to be tempted to buy more.

QFT!I am looking as much forward to a new valkyrie as to a new TF and I KNOW each one is more expensive then an MP transformer...(okay, not MP-04 "perfect" Convoy) but STILL I drool when another is announced, new mold or repaint alike...and it doesn`t stop with just Macross either...Mospeada by default is prone to that aswell due to the assosiation made with Robotech...(though the Toynami/Aoshima Alpha/Legioss isn`t worth masscollecting due to shoddy finish/design)no wonder I`ve not had my own car in a few years now...

Straight Up!

I have most of the 1/60 Valks, but still need a Max and Millia. I choose those over the 1/48 because at the time they had more models. However, now the 1/48 have stepped up a few notches, and the cost is an arm and a leg.

Then Yamato goes and remakes the VF-19 and scale it to 1/60 but it still costs an arm and a leg. Geeze, now my 1/60 line is dead(I think). I havently heard anything new over at Macross World or from Yamato.

Oh well, I dig 'em.

Hey guys i'm also interested in purchasing a VF-1 valkyrie.
If fell in love with the design when I bumped into it while browsing the list of Autobots on wikipedia.

I saw some pictures at BBTS of some VF-1 toys that were manufactured by Yamato but there soo many scales I don't know which one to pick or which scale is better.

Also If someone can point me to some fansites which showcase and review macross toys or if there are any macross fansites that are equivalent to seibertron.com

If any one could give me some advice I would appreciate it. I really want to get a defnitive VF-1 toy.

Also do they have a diecast body?

thanks

I've got the Yamato VF-1J and it is super awesome.
Very heavy and very nice. It fits in nicely
with my Transformers very well.
For anyone who is thinking about getting one
but doesn't have one already, get one, you will not be disappointed.

Yo, Sgt S!

Go to:http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/_main_menu.htm

Then go to the toys link on the left. There is a complete breakdown to all of the veritech toys.

VF means Veriable Fighter. 1 means the first(0 came later) and D/A/J/S means the head type and the rank of the pilot, along with colour paterns.

For example JetFire from TF is a VF-1S.

ConDrewfus wrote:Yo, Sgt S!

Go to:http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/_main_menu.htm

Then go to the toys link on the left. There is a complete breakdown to all of the veritech toys.

VF means Veriable Fighter. 1 means the first(0 came later) and D/A/J/S means the head type and the rank of the pilot, along with colour paterns.

For example JetFire from TF is a VF-1S.

Merci my good comrade!

Yamato...lol. As I've said before, the only one I ever bought from them couldn't even stand the joints were so loose. Biggest waste of money I've ever spent. Get the original Bandai version. You'll be happier.

Yamato. "Yeah we just made this really loose and crappy figure. Uh huh. Yup. And then when people get pissed at us, we'll come out with the fixed version and make double the money! BRILLIANT!"

TheMuffin wrote:Yamato...lol. As I've said before, the only one I ever bought from them couldn't even stand the joints were so loose. Biggest waste of money I've ever spent. Get the original Bandai version. You'll be happier.

Yamato. "Yeah we just made this really loose and crappy figure. Uh huh. Yup. And then when people get pissed at us, we'll come out with the fixed version and make double the money! BRILLIANT!"

what model did you get Muffin?cause it sounds to me like you have a 1/60 VF-1 and they DO tend to have floppy legs due to the high diecast content in the legs on a TINY balljoint.a 1/48 has NO standing issues at all and is "perfect variable" IE, no partsswapping like the 1/60`s have.plus nowadays QC problems are down to minor quibbles instead of "whoopsy, we made that part of fragile plastics and now it broke in your hands when you took the toy out of the packaging!" you may have some bad experiences with ONE Yamato toy but they`re not ALL like that.it`s like saying the movie line blows chunks cause you got one wonky Starscream.

Yup was a 1/60th Miriya.

Sadly it only takes one giant waste of money to permanently tarnish my view of Yamato.

TheMuffin wrote:Yup was a 1/60th Miriya.

Sadly it only takes one giant waste of money to permanently tarnish my view of Yamato.

heh, I scored two MISB 1/60 VF-1J Super Miria`s for the price of one.you really need to look around...but if you don`t like Yamato`s offerings, try a Toynami 1/100 VF-1 model. they`re cheap, small and very nicely done.

Black Arachnis wrote:

TheMuffin wrote:Yamato...lol. As I've said before, the only one I ever bought from them couldn't even stand the joints were so loose. Biggest waste of money I've ever spent. Get the original Bandai version. You'll be happier.

Yamato. "Yeah we just made this really loose and crappy figure. Uh huh. Yup. And then when people get pissed at us, we'll come out with the fixed version and make double the money! BRILLIANT!"

what model did you get Muffin?cause it sounds to me like you have a 1/60 VF-1 and they DO tend to have floppy legs due to the high diecast content in the legs on a TINY balljoint.a 1/48 has NO standing issues at all and is "perfect variable" IE, no partsswapping like the 1/60`s have.plus nowadays QC problems are down to minor quibbles instead of "whoopsy, we made that part of fragile plastics and now it broke in your hands when you took the toy out of the packaging!" you may have some bad experiences with ONE Yamato toy but they`re not ALL like that.it`s like saying the movie line blows chunks cause you got one wonky Starscream.

So the 1/60 scale sets should be avoided. I did however read a review on amazon.com that did state the same problem

But do the 1/55 scale and 1/48 scale series have the same problems?

Also when it comes to choosing between Yamato and Bandai, which is better?

I prefer the original Bandai versions just because of the classic look of them. They're aren't as posable, but they're big, stable and generally cheaper.

I gotta go with the Macross, love the skull and crossbones!

TheMuffin wrote:I prefer the original Bandai versions just because of the classic look of them. They're aren't as posable, but they're big, stable and generally cheaper.

Well thanks for the adivce. i've been looking at some pictures of the orignal and reissue versions of the VF-1 toys and they look quite durable in comparison to the yamato toys. But the yamato toys have more detail.

Anyways thanks for the help you've pointed me in the right direction.

If I do get one ill post some pictures in the macross gallery thread in the general disscussion forum.

Honestly, the second best Valkyrie I've ever had was the suprisingly awesome Banpresto versions. I have no idea what scale they are, but they're quite small. They feature a "perfect transformation" much like the 1/48 and old Bandai Valks.

Here's a pic of one in the box: (sorry, best picture I could find)

Banpresto VF-1

Now the best part of these guys, is they come with all 3 heads, the S, J and A so you can swap it out at anytime and have whichever model of a VF-1 you feel like without having to drop $60 bucks or more on a new toy. Plus, they come with the FAST packs too! And multiple hands if memory serves.

I had three of these guys and loved them to death. Unfortunately, they got lost when I moved from my last place to my current condo and I haven't seen them around since. You might be able to get them on Ebay though, I haven't checked.

Oh, and ConDrewfus if you ever use the words "Macross" and, guh, "veritech" in the same sentence again, I'll break your thumbs j/k

They remind me of the Toynami 1/100th scale figures. Though hopefully not as horrible. I don't think I'll ever buy another item from Toynami or Yamato after being thrashed by both of them. That little figure was such a letdown. Loose joints, a freaking wheel well was glued shut because of some Chinese kids carelessness and the ball socket broke that held the figure onto the stand. Before that I was actually tempted to buy Toynami's Voltron figure. Not a chance in Hell of me doing that now.

Wouldn't you know it, I found one on Ebay.

Banpresto Valkyrie

Edit: That appears to be the only one available. Just a note, whatever you do, avoid the VF-11b at all costs. It has quite a nasty habit of having its legs fall off as you take it out of the box. I blew about $100 bucks getting one and as I took it out, the leg fell right off the damn thing. Was not impressed at all.

rob_charb wrote:Wouldn't you know it, I found one on Ebay.

Banpresto Valkyrie

Edit: That appears to be the only one available. Just a note, whatever you do, avoid the VF-11b at all costs. It has quite a nasty habit of having its legs fall off as you take it out of the box. I blew about $100 bucks getting one and as I took it out, the leg fell right off the damn thing. Was not impressed at all.

Ooh nice, but the shipping cost is a bit though still affordable.

Well thanks for the advice. Sorry to hear losing your set on your move. It sucks to lose something of important value to oneself.

Yeah, I was pretty bummed out when I lost them. Though I still have the FAST packs for Roy's VF-1 for some reason.

Don't expect these to be big, they're really quite small. Roughly the heigh of a Cybertron Scout class. But that just makes it even more amazing that they're so small and yet feature a perfect transformation! They even borrow some aspects of the transformation from the Yamato 1/48's...which, by the way, are totally worth the price you need to pay for one except for one minor flaw...their ridiculously small hands!

uh, you might want to reconsider the Banpresto being better then the Toynami 1/100 statement because A: any problems with the FIRST wave of Toynami 1/100's have been corrected and B: I HAVE a Banpresto and the damned thing won`t even remain standing if a gust of wind hits it.Banpresto`s are renowned for their LOOSE joints and fragile transformation connectors.they`re cheap and there`s a REASON they are.plus, it is NOT a perfect variable. the heatshield is loose which is NOT the case with the Yamato 1/48 nor do you yank out the hands on a Yamato 1/48 which you DO on a Banpresto 1/144.perfect variable means ALL parts except wingarmament and gunpod are built in and flip/slide into place from another part.not even a Bandai 1/55 is perfect variable.