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Air Commander Starscream wrote:For the new Macross Frontier figures by Bandai, I stayed away from them because I didn't know how they were going to size up with the rest of the Yamato stuff I had.

I have one VF-25R, and a VF-27. Scale wise they are un-officially 1/60th. They look right at home with the Yamato 1/60s. Bandai will be re-releasing their VF-25s in the fall with all the improvements from the 27, and 29 toys. I might have to pick up an Ozma Lee VF-25S armor version!

Jesterhead wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:For the new Macross Frontier figures by Bandai, I stayed away from them because I didn't know how they were going to size up with the rest of the Yamato stuff I had.

I have one VF-25R, and a VF-27. Scale wise they are un-officially 1/60th. They look right at home with the Yamato 1/60s. Bandai will be re-releasing their VF-25s in the fall with all the improvements from the 27, and 29 toys. I might have to pick up an Ozma Lee VF-25S armor version!

So are those the regular releases or the VF100's? I believe the VF100's are 1/100 scale and fit in with the Toynami's stuff?

Also where is a good place to pick these up now and days? I use to always get them from BBTS or Ebay.

And I love all of the improvements they do on the figures. I got the first release of the YF-19, VF-0S and SV-51r and in pure Yamato style, they all have some issues that they fix in a rerelease. The YF-19 wasn't too bad, the VF-0 has some loose limb issues but the SV-51r had terrible floppy wings.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:
So are those the regular releases or the VF100's? I believe the VF100's are 1/100 scale and fit in with the Toynami's stuff?

I have the regular released Chogokin DX ones.

No experience with the VF100s, but I think you are correct in assuming they are 1/100.

I usually get my Macross swag from angolz.com. They are based in Hong Kong, but have good shipping rates, and an impressive selection. I think they are mostly sold out of VF-25s though. You might find some Tornado variants still though.

Jesterhead wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:
So are those the regular releases or the VF100's? I believe the VF100's are 1/100 scale and fit in with the Toynami's stuff?

I have the regular released Chogokin DX ones.

So what is your opinion of the quality of the Chogokin's?

Overall they are quite nice, and would recommend them if the impending release of the 2nd versions wasn't just around the corner.

Many people have had concerns and issues over the quality of them, but I haven't had one QC issue after owning them for close to two years. None of my paint applications have scratched off during transformation, and every joint is tight and in one piece.

Design wise, they could have used a little bit more work. Robot and fighter mode are both great, but the gerwalk is pretty bad, if not useless. The 27 is better than the 25 in this mode, but nowhere near as nice as the Yamatos.

For the first scale toys of the Frontier valks, I'd say they did a very good job. The second releases of them should tidy up all the issues. Clearly Bandai learned a lot with the 27 and 29.

EDIT: Actually, I had one QC issue with the VF25R when the panel on the robots calf popped off during the first transformation. Nothing broken, just a missed dot of glue. A very easy fix with a tube of CA glue.

The 1/100 scale Valks from Macross Frontier were more parts former than anything. There were a TON of parts to swap.

Yea I hear you have to remove a lot of parts between transformations, it kind of seems like whats the point of that? Especially for the asking price on them.

So what is everyone's fav Valk type? I still have to say the YF/VF-19 is my favorite.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:Yea I hear you have to remove a lot of parts between transformations, it kind of seems like whats the point of that? Especially for the asking price on them.

So what is everyone's fav Valk type? I still have to say the YF/VF-19 is my favorite.

Do you remember mine? Here's a hint there's a group shot in the old thread. Can we reopen it?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:Yea I hear you have to remove a lot of parts between transformations, it kind of seems like whats the point of that? Especially for the asking price on them.

So what is everyone's fav Valk type? I still have to say the YF/VF-19 is my favorite.

Do you remember mine? Here's a hint there's a group shot in the old thread. Can we reopen it?

Wa-Pow! http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118&p=594#p594

Looks like most of my galleries are still there. lol I haven't used that photo service in a long time., so long I can't remember which one I used.

Oh I forgot to mention something. We just had a really successful comic convention here in Albuquerque a few weeks ago called ACE (looks like they are going to make it annual), but anyways they had a Robotech panel. Tommy Yune did it and he was the director for Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles. He showed us that they are working on a second Shadow Chronicle as well as something new altogether. He also confirmed that the Robotech Live Action Movie is still alive and in the works.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:Yea I hear you have to remove a lot of parts between transformations, it kind of seems like whats the point of that? Especially for the asking price on them.

So what is everyone's fav Valk type? I still have to say the YF/VF-19 is my favorite.

Do you remember mine? Here's a hint there's a group shot in the old thread. Can we reopen it?

Wa-Pow! http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118&p=594#p594

Looks like most of my galleries are still there. lol I haven't used that photo service in a long time., so long I can't remember which one I used.

The thread is still locked, anyway to unlock it so we can use that instead of this new thread? We were supposed to have a new SC TV series years ago, instead we just get SC released on DVD over and over.

Years ago, I saw the first VHS Robotech and forgot most of the details. I watched the first episode on Netflix's Watch Instantly.

I love the robot designs and it's one of those nerd pop culture icons that I don't know much about. I may have to watch the rest.

Well I bit the bullet and ordered the SC Maia Alpha. I'll post my feelings (and hopefully not disappointment) on it when I ship my POL. I'm pretty nervous to see the QC on it

Back to Macross, has anyone seen the second Frontier movie yet? I can't wait for it's DVD release!

Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!

Jesterhead wrote:Well I bit the bullet and ordered the SC Maia Alpha. I'll post my feelings (and hopefully not disappointment) on it when I ship my POL. I'm pretty nervous to see the QC on it

Back to Macross, has anyone seen the second Frontier movie yet? I can't wait for it's DVD release!

Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!

I'd check it out but there's so much main line stuff out that I want first.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:He showed us that they are working on a second Shadow Chronicle as well as something new altogether. He also confirmed that the Robotech Live Action Movie is still alive and in the works.

Both Tommy and Kevin (who not only runs great panels at cons, but is just a great guy to hang with) have been issuing the same statements since 2008, I've seen a number and 75% of one years panel is word for word from the year before.

The long and the short of it is that Shadow Chronicles did well enough to warrant the 2nd volume which was effectively green lit and then put immediately on hold once they had a decent live-action proposal on the table. As long as the Live movie is still viable, we'll be waiting for SC2. We are not going to see anything further for SC until the movie leaves the pre-production stage for either actual filming or the trash bin.

Either way, by the time we have a set date for SC2, another entire Macross series could be announced, debuted, had a full TV run, and put out on DVD.

I still get a kick that fans in japan fan-subbed Shadow Chronicles as a GC Mospeda sequel.

Editor wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:He showed us that they are working on a second Shadow Chronicle as well as something new altogether. He also confirmed that the Robotech Live Action Movie is still alive and in the works.

Both Tommy and Kevin (who not only runs great panels at cons, but is just a great guy to hang with) have been issuing the same statements since 2008, I've seen a number and 75% of one years panel is word for word from the year before.

The long and the short of it is that Shadow Chronicles did well enough to warrant the 2nd volume which was effectively green lit and then put immediately on hold once they had a decent live-action proposal on the table. As long as the Live movie is still viable, we'll be waiting for SC2. We are not going to see anything further for SC until the movie leaves the pre-production stage for either actual filming or the trash bin.

Either way, by the time we have a set date for SC2, another entire Macross series could be announced, debuted, had a full TV run, and put out on DVD.

I still get a kick that fans in japan fan-subbed Shadow Chronicles as a GC Mospeda sequel.

I didn't know they did that. Forget a SC movie, we were supposed to get a cartoon. From what I gather fans want more stories from the Macross Saga. That was the most successful of the Robotech saga and in my opinion the best. I also have a grudge against Toynami and HG now over the crap they pulled forcing sites to drop Yammato Mechs.

Chuck, the movie is for the original Macross story, or at least partly based on, not Shadows.

5 gets you ten, regardless of what they call it here, it will be marketed in Japan as Macross regardless.

Editor wrote:Chuck, the movie is for the original Macross story, or at least partly based on, not Shadows.

That upsets me.

I was a Macross fan before I gave Robotech a shot. I refuse to accept that the Macross Saga exists in Robotech. Southern Cross and Mospeada only!

Editor wrote:Chuck, the movie is for the original Macross story, or at least partly based on, not Shadows.

5 gets you ten, regardless of what they call it here, it will be marketed in Japan as Macross regardless.

I know about the live action movie. I was saying that even now people want new stories about Rick, Roy Max, Mila, and the big guy. Heck SC really only follows Scott Bernard, what happened to the rest of his crew?

The quick and dirty answer is that for what Harmony Gold wants to do with SC, the rest of the Irregulars simply don't factor in. Much the way they were written for End of the Circle.

Lancer would go back to entertaining people and act as a beacon of hope.
Lunk and Annie would go live their lives.
Rook and Rand while the easiest to write in, would get lost in the shuffle against trained REF members.

Jesterhead wrote:Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!

I really didnt need to read that...now I might have to go check out HLJ.....

As for the whole Robotech live action movie, I know it has been in talks for a very long time much like the Voltron Movie. But I will remain hopeful and it dosent bother me too much that it will be a straight up reboot.

I like both Robotech and Macross, but I tend to like Macross more as it continues the main "Macross" designs and story with Plus, Seven and Frontier. I enjoyed Southern Cross and the New Generation with Robotech, but it is still 2 seperate shows getting tweaked for the whole "Robotech Saga". I still havent even seen Shadow Chronicles yet, I need to get it on Blu Ray and watch it.

Air Commander Starscream wrote:

Jesterhead wrote:Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!

I really didnt need to read that...now I might have to go check out HLJ.....

As for the whole Robotech live action movie, I know it has been in talks for a very long time much like the Voltron Movie. But I will remain hopeful and it dosent bother me too much that it will be a straight up reboot.

I like both Robotech and Macross, but I tend to like Macross more as it continues the main "Macross" designs and story with Plus, Seven and Frontier. I enjoyed Southern Cross and the New Generation with Robotech, but it is still 2 seperate shows getting tweaked for the whole "Robotech Saga". I still havent even seen Shadow Chronicles yet, I need to get it on Blu Ray and watch it.

Well the Voltron movie was confirmed tonight as well as a new release of the complete Robotech saga on DVD.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:

Jesterhead wrote:Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!

I really didnt need to read that...now I might have to go check out HLJ.....

As for the whole Robotech live action movie, I know it has been in talks for a very long time much like the Voltron Movie. But I will remain hopeful and it dosent bother me too much that it will be a straight up reboot.

I like both Robotech and Macross, but I tend to like Macross more as it continues the main "Macross" designs and story with Plus, Seven and Frontier. I enjoyed Southern Cross and the New Generation with Robotech, but it is still 2 seperate shows getting tweaked for the whole "Robotech Saga". I still havent even seen Shadow Chronicles yet, I need to get it on Blu Ray and watch it.

Well the Voltron movie was confirmed tonight as well as a new release of the complete Robotech saga on DVD.

Because we can never have enough sets of the Robotech Saga!

Air Commander Starscream wrote:Because we can never have enough sets of the Robotech Saga!

So what are the folks running Robotech at HG even doing now-a-days? They keep saying how they are working on new projects, shows, live action movies. Seems like they are trying to desperately keep the Robotech name in the news and still relevant.

I'd be fine without a second SC movie, I just want that damn SC Beta toy with the syncro-cannon!

Jesterhead wrote:

Air Commander Starscream wrote:Because we can never have enough sets of the Robotech Saga!

So what are the folks running Robotech at HG even doing now-a-days? They keep saying how they are working on new projects, shows, live action movies. Seems like they are trying to desperately keep the Robotech name in the news and still relevant.

I'd be fine without a second SC movie, I just want that damn SC Beta toy with the syncro-cannon!

A FREAKIN MEN! They keep re-releasing Shadow Chronicles and the like. The new Robotech set is nice since some people never got it (me) but still. Bring over the other Macross series' and work them in.