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News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:21 pm

Metalwar2010 wrote:Isn't neon yellow similar to the Constructicons perceived "green" color? I can't see Maketoys taking a risk like that otherwise making a color most collectors would pass on.

Could be. But since the G2 version of Devastator was yellow and the TFC release will be green, they may decide a yellow release as an homage to G2 makes more sense.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:43 pm

If that yellow info turns out to be true, the only thing I can think of is they figure they'll sell more if they offer yellow first, then do the green version later hoping to rope people in that wouldn't have bought both had they released a green one first. If that's the case, that's kind of shady. If that's not the case and they just think yellow is a better choice, that's just idiotic. But whatev, makes no diff to me...I'm getting Hercules.

by **NamelessOne** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:50 pm

.....Aaaaand I'm back on the fence about Maketoy's Devastator. Yellow? Okay, maybe a nice change, but at $410 for a full set? I want to see detailed painted production runs (not prototypes) before slinging out that kinda dosh. :-?

That Prime upgrade kit is SO bought on sight (it's a done deal as far as I'm concerned, so doesn't bear further deliberation), and that 2 pack minicon will be passed on - I'm waiting for the Xtransbots Powerglide, and have preordered iGear's Seaspray.

Unless that is a VERY rough prototype, I dunno if I'm interested in whatever the hell that other figure is - looks a bit too 'bad parts of Armada/Cyberton' - ish at the moment. >:oP

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:53 pm

I'm thinking the prototype is The Fallen

News Credits: 1 · by **mesh** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:56 pm

what boils my blood is mp-10 is $250.....the individual figures for Hercules is $100............how the hell does that make any sense?!

if each figure was around $45-60 buck then I can understand but $100 per fig is robbery!

When you start looking at what you get in a masterpiece and compare it to a Hercules limb/figure.....it just doesn't make any sense.

I don't have an issue with money but I cannot justify spending $100 per limb/figure that do not have the caliber or fit and finish like a masterpiece.

now if each of these figures were of masterpiece quality then I can see spending $100 per fig justified.

yes i'm ranting!

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:15 pm

El Duque wrote:I'm thinking the prototype is The Fallen

The head and chest and waist are spot on , good call.

Like Baneblade on Facebook · by **Baneblade** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:23 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:
El Duque wrote:I'm thinking the prototype is The Fallen

The head and chest and waist are spot on , good call.

A better offering than the titanium series fallen

by **NamelessOne** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:23 pm

El Duque wrote:I'm thinking the prototype is The Fallen

That would be awesome if it was! Nice catch!

by **donnie_707** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:24 pm

mesh wrote:what boils my blood is mp-10 is $250.....the individual figures for Hercules is $100............how the hell does that make any sense?!

if each figure was around $45-60 buck then I can understand but $100 per fig is robbery!

When you start looking at what you get in a masterpiece and compare it to a Hercules limb/figure.....it just doesn't make any sense.

I don't have an issue with money but I cannot justify spending $100 per limb/figure that do not have the caliber or fit and finish like a masterpiece.

now if each of these figures were of masterpiece quality then I can see spending $100 per fig justified.

yes i'm ranting!

i totally agree with you on this matter. look at (rotf) buster prime.....he was about 40-50 bucks. dotm jetwing prime is 200 bucks!....so youre telling me that the jetpack is going to cost an extra 150 bucks! so

prime=50 bucks

jetpack=150 bucks

thats highway robbery.

anyways back on topic. i still think herc looks better than giant so im going to go with herc. but i already bought rts prime for that dope add on trailer. done deal

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:42 pm

mesh wrote:what boils my blood is mp-10 is $250.....the individual figures for Hercules is $100............how the hell does that make any sense?!

The question is who's to blame? I believe these are more like $60 over in shops in China. The Hercules figs are being marked up a helluva lot more than the MP fig is. But either way, depending on where you buy, a full Hercules is practically the same price as two MP-10s (rk.com: 78*6=468 for Herc 228*2=456 for two MP.) Personally, I think Hercules is at least twice as impressive as MP-10.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:47 pm

My Exgraver holds together better then any of my masterpiece stuff.
Not sure how everyone else's is, but mine is worth every penny, it's nice to move him around with out the joints going loose like the MP stuff.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:53 pm

Cheaper What?

MP Prime = 175
MP Grimlock = 175
MP Megatron = 150
MP Hot Rodimus = 215
MP SS and TC = 200 ea
MP New OP = 250
Buster Prime was 125+ new
Jet wing OP = 200

Cheap MP? Two of them and your almost to Hercules.

by **Rated X** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:21 pm

Whatever Maketoy is smoking I want some !!!

At $136 for a set of 2 that rounds out to $68 a figure. Add on shipping and whatever profit BBTS or TF Source needs to make and youre looking at $150 a set which is no bargin. Although I must admit a yellow G2 Devastator to display in combiner mode and the TFC versions displayed individually sounds tempting.

I want that G2 Prime trailer definatally. Pass on their versions of the mini-bots. No guns and powerglide has a big ass head.

by **sthenurus** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:22 pm

I wanted to buy the RTS prime upgrade, but not for 110+shipping. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this almost 50% more than the protector set?

by **donnie_707** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:29 pm

^its a little bit cheaper than the commander(magnus) set. so id say right in the middle. which is about right. once the pre order comes up i will be all over the trailer. november is not coming soon enough

News Credits: 2 · by **Requiem Prime** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:56 pm

I'm glad the minibots are coming out soon. Maketoy needs a good coming out before Tank and Giant. Both look excellent, but I want some good will before I'm all in.

Tank has more functions than a swiss army knife. Which very very cool.

Giant being yellow does not bother me. Nor does Giant's neccessary extra bits being separate (so long as they kinda tastefully blend in). But then, I can't get enough of the big guy.

A classics Fallen? Sweet! I hope he actually turns into something interesting, and not a twisted up mess with a beak.

by **dinogeist** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:12 pm

If that proto type is the fallen & it's voyager or $27 usa ultra 8 inch size then I'll most likely buy it in 2012.

Either that 3RD Party "The fallen" is a really huge $27 usa ultra sized 8+inch robot mode. or the RTS Prime with the trailer armor attached to the robot mode is still super tiny in height.

Like funeralthirst7 on Facebook · by **funeralthirst7** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:38 pm

This is making Hercules look even better.

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:09 pm

I'll go ahead and echo the fact that I want a green Devy from them too. Although, I think the pricing is great. I really like the alt modes and Scavengers robot mode as well. Clean and thin, less blocky than the TFC version. That makes getting both easier

I'm pleased to see the colors on Powerglide look a lot better now too. I can't wait to get those little guys.

The G2 Prime set looks great. I'm glad to see that the Drift sword and Prime sword are separate. I feared the Prime sword was just a skirt when the initial pictures were released. It also appears that the fingers of the upgrade kit of articulation. Not individually, but they are closed tighter than the pics on the other thread. Very cool.

I'm committed to the other figure as well without even knowing who he is. The Fallen looks like a solid choice though.

by **Court Jester** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:58 pm

I'm happy with my choice. Thanks for the boxset confirmation, MT!

by **alternator77** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 pm

[DECEASED] wrote:

ooking at these two together im easily going the mt route.while tfclub has the bulk im really liking the aesthetic of mt's version. also he seems way more posable as he doesnt have a massive chunk of kibble hanging off of his back.

edit; is it me or do those arms seem to take design cues from warcry/munitioner? and those are some posable arms

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:06 pm

[DECEASED] wrote:

I'm happy with my choice. Thanks for the boxset confirmation, MT!

I think they both look good in their own right but I love the proportions on the MT one soooo much better.

by **Shadowstream** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:56 pm

Ah maketoy... such promise... such excellent concepts... ruined by price and import markups. I liked what you were doing, but not enough to pay more than 80 bucks a piece for any of it.

Pass!

:BOOM:

by **dinogeist** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:29 pm

Shadowstream wrote:Ah maketoy... such promise... such excellent concepts... ruined by price and import markups. I liked what you were doing, but not enough to pay more than 80 bucks a piece for any of it.

Pass!

Neither the Hercules or maketoys devestator interest me & I can't justify spending $300 to $600 on this combined toy. the character isn't on my top 10 updated homage new mold list.

Regarding maketoys devestator,

Why go thru the trouble of creating smaller sized constructicons than hercules. if your gonna charge the same price or more than hercules??
I suspose to some size scale matters & maketoys devestator is their favorite. I just don't know that many willing to spend higher prices than 3rd party hercules.

Personally,I like the maketoys devestator more than the Hercules one. i'm all about size scale & these maketoys constructicons look to be deluxes or tall basics.

I don't understand why they'd pick a less desirable color scheme for their 3rd party devestator, like G-2 Yellow. the majority of transformers fans love the 1984 iconic lime green devestator colors the best.

Granted I can sorta understand later on. milking the mold for more cash by creating limited run color variations like G-2 Yellow,G-2 Oroange,Diaclone multi colors,etc...

My guess is 3rd party hercules might do a few color variations later on in limited production numbers. maybe even a huge gift set later on.

Personally with the price & colors of maketoys devestator. I don't see that many selling thus I don't see any recolors or gift sets being made afterwards.