The Energon Pub

Wow, I'm glad I went with Hercules. These things look horrible in my opinion, and the scale is way too small. My classics-verse consists of voyagers, not scouts or deluxes and Devastator always towered over the non-combining TF's by quite a lot, which this one certainly won't.

To each his own though, we all have our tastes, but this offering is one that I'll be passing on. Herc is certainly more costly, but well worth the money for me. The thing I like about Classics/Generations etc. is that they DON'T look exactly like their G1 counterparts, they only homage them, which Hercules does for the Constructicons, this one is too close to G1 for me, and if I wanted that, I'd just find an oversized KO Devistator for a fraction of the price of this thing.

Trikeboy wrote:Incorporating the combiner parts as trailors just looks wrong to me (as it did on G1 Devy). Also, Giant makes no attempt to hide the combiner head attached to Hook, its sitting out right next to the cab. His own head can clearly be seen at the back too. I haven't seen many cranes with a large robot head attached to it.

Exgraver's combiner hand attached to his back just doesn't work as hiding it IMO.

Looks great, can't wait for these but...... WHERE THE HECK ARE THE PREORDERS FOR THEM!

I for one LOVE the way Long Haul looks. It really pushes the idea that everyone else on the team is a genius architect or chemist or whatever, and he's there to do the heavy lifting. I can already hear him complaining!

They all look a million times better then TFCs Hercules. Well, except for Longhaul... he looks Energon fat.


I'll be getting these bastards for sure!

Sweet! All I ask is a price, a preorder, and a good profile of Giant's head sculpt.

Requiem Prime wrote:Sweet! All I ask is a price, a preorder, and a good profile of Giant's head sculpt.

They're still taking feedback on the head sculpt, it's still in progress.

Still looking good. I was kinda worried the bots were gonna be just random Constructicons who happened to make up Giant. I'm happy to see I was wrong and that the homages are there. The updates are interesting. I'm still down.

I (not so) patiently await pre-orders.

Price be damned, I WILL own this.

I'm more impressed than previously. Their DEv was always top notch looking, but seeing the bot modes more clearly now, I find that many of them are more accurate looking in individual bot mode than the TFC versions seem to be. The heads are very spot on, except Bonecrusher, I believe.

Of course, that's for 5/6 of them. Long Haul is an interesting enigma. He's good looking enough, but I do really, really, really like my TFC Long Haul (Heavy Labor) a lot. Neither version does him very similarly to the original, which I find a little disappointing. Using the dumpbed as the arms is okay, but seems like there is a lot of potential for it to be legs.

Anyway, I will need to get this version of them all as well. The Scavenger, Scrapper, and Mixmaster being the main reasons to buy. And of course, the ultimate combined mode.

Well I am now officially impressed with the maketoy giant. That's on my wishlist

Still not 100% on the front of mixmasters grille but we can't have everything....can we?

OK TFC did screw up on the scale, the visor, and the stupid tube guns. But honestly, the Maketoy versions are not as much G1 in robot mode as the TFC versions. Granted, Maketoy got a few things right that TFC left out. But the same thing goes the other way around. One thing I really dislike on the Maketoy versions is having Scavenger and Hook’s alt mode tool hanging from his arm instead of on his back. When Hasbro did it with the Inferno/Grapple mode it was OK because I hold Hasbro to lower standards. But when it comes to 3rd party companies, I don’t expect a lot of radical non G1 changes. This is why I just don’t get the Maketoy Long Haul. They kind of tried to look like the cartoon for the rest of the figures so why did they hit in the left field with Long Haul ? Well if this figure is cheap enough, I may buy it in G2 colors.

Not bad. I want to see it next to the TFC and others.Some complain about scale or not being faithful to G1, but in the show Devastators height varied like crazy. In one episode he was twice Megatron's height in another his foot alone was larger than most of the autobots. And Transformation wise G1 Bumblebee and Motormaster gave me headaches. In vehicle mode the cab rivaled Optimus but in Robot mode they were the same basic height and the cab was just his feet?Probably the main reason you haven't seen a Menasor update in a while. MotorMaster's trailer should become a base with stunticon weapons (like the TFX-4 Protector armor)and then form the Main body of Menasor to be logically sound. Some say TFC DEV is too big. Combiners should be big And tower and the more articulated the better. Some say the G1 homage is to removed or evoled but thats the way it goes. If i want G1 accurate i'll either get Masterpieces or Actual G1 figures.Classics/generations does it fine for me. The giant is pretty nice but whats the cost?how is it sold? Piece by piece or boxset? After the Fansproject Bruticus (love it but a few issues with stuff on robotmode Onslaught and vehicle Vortex and feel of Explorer and Munitioner chest.)May consider both these guy we'll see.

amcgrath929 wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Incorporating the combiner parts as trailors just looks wrong to me (as it did on G1 Devy). Also, Giant makes no attempt to hide the combiner head attached to Hook, its sitting out right next to the cab. His own head can clearly be seen at the back too. I haven't seen many cranes with a large robot head attached to it.

Exgraver's combiner hand attached to his back just doesn't work as hiding it IMO.

Very true, a large purple hand on his back in robot mode looks stupid and it is my only complaint about the fig. It does however incorporate very well in vehicle mode. It doesn't look like a hand when seen from behind. Giant Hook has a large head on display in vehicle mode and by the looks of things the Devy head will be kissing Hooks ass in robot mode. Dr. Crank wins IMO.

Flux Convoy wrote:

Requiem Prime wrote:Sweet! All I ask is a price, a preorder, and a good profile of Giant's head sculpt.

They're still taking feedback on the head sculpt, it's still in progress.

Still looking good. I was kinda worried the bots were gonna be just random Constructicons who happened to make up Giant. I'm happy to see I was wrong and that the homages are there. The updates are interesting. I'm still down.

Midnight_Fox wrote:I (not so) patiently await pre-orders.

Price be damned, I WILL own this.

To hell with price to hell with kibble this thing beats out Hercules's ass no question...Giant wins! Giant will get owned by this fan and others...'nuff said!!

The combined mode isn't bad but the individual robots i'm not digging (get it?). The robot modes look odd and very basic and the vehicle modes are also plain and the combiner parts don't blend in. I'll stick with TFC's Devy.

to those complaining about scavenger and hook having their tools on their arms: what sense did it ever make for them to be on their backs? this is a clear step up and if you can't see that, well.....i won't be mean.
long haul looks like a fantastic update. i don't see the problem here. he looks a little different but as others mention: these are homages not exact remakes. plus they'd probably get their asses sued if they were.
giant gets the win for me if not just for affordability alone. i'm not rich and with my wages i'm not that dedicated to transformers to get hercules. 'nuff said.

Tidalwavex wrote:I'm sick & tired of radical updates that look next to nothing like the original toy.

I wouldn't say TFC's Constructicons look nothing like the originals. It's pretty obvious who they are meant to be. With the exception of Mixmaster and Hook (which both look superb, minus the abundance of head on Hook), I'd say MakeToy's Constructicons are no more G1 accurate than TFC's.

I'm not a huge fan of the kibble: the previously mentioned heads, Long Haul seeming to have an engine on the back of his bucket, and where do the trailers go when they transform to robot mode? Plus, each figure's unique equipment seems quite small.

On the flip-side, the transformations look extraordinary and posability is highly impressive: look at Giant's ankle!!!

I can't see any reason why one set of 3rd party Constructicons would be better than the other (except for the fact that we've actually got orders for Hercules ) I think it simply comes down to personal preference and available funds. Really wish I could get both.

Sodan-1 wrote: Long Haul seeming to have an engine on the back of his bucket

That looks like Devy's chest wing thing to me, actually.

Plus, each figure's unique equipment seems quite small.

now there's no need to get personal!

El Duque wrote:Giant is approximately the same size as Bruticus with the FansProject upgrades, I believe the price is about $300.00.

I've seen this number thrown around a couple times and I hope it comes to be as I think I could swing for both at this price, but I'm not holding my breath.

Kibble wrote:

El Duque wrote:Giant is approximately the same size as Bruticus with the FansProject upgrades, I believe the price is about $300.00.

I've seen this number thrown around a couple times and I hope it comes to be as I think I could swing for both at this price, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, to be honest I can't even remember where I first heard that quote, but it's been circulating for a while now. I believe they are also supposed to be releasing these in two packs for about 100 a set.

Can't wait for the G2 =3.

I need to start saving.

I was looking at this on my cellphone earlier and I was going to complain about a number of things, the trailers, the visible combiner kibble, the small-ish head.

But honestly, seeing it now on a big screen. Who gives a crap? This looks amazing! I love how different and full of personality each separate bot looks. And the combined mode looks totally badass as well. This will look amazing on my classics shelf alongside Bruticus, facing off (unfairly) against Superion.

I complain about price and being broke all the time, but I just have to make it work. I've done so with FP in the past, I need to continue with Maketoys.

kirbenvost wrote:I need to start saving.

I was looking at this on my cellphone earlier and I was going to complain about a number of things, the trailers, the visible combiner kibble, the small-ish head.

But honestly, seeing it now on a big screen. Who gives a crap? This looks amazing! I love how different and full of personality each separate bot looks. And the combined mode looks totally badass as well. This will look amazing on my classics shelf alongside Bruticus, facing off (unfairly) against Superion.

I complain about price and being broke all the time, but I just have to make it work. I've done so with FP in the past, I need to continue with Maketoys.

lucas maximus wrote:to those complaining about scavenger and hook having their tools on their arms: what sense did it ever make for them to be on their backs? this is a clear step up and if you can't see that, well.....i won't be mean.
long haul looks like a fantastic update. i don't see the problem here. he looks a little different but as others mention: these are homages not exact remakes. plus they'd probably get their asses sued if they were.
giant gets the win for me if not just for affordability alone. i'm not rich and with my wages i'm not that dedicated to transformers to get hercules. 'nuff said.

Sodan-1 wrote:

Tidalwavex wrote:I'm sick & tired of radical updates that look next to nothing like the original toy.

I wouldn't say TFC's Constructicons look nothing like the originals. It's pretty obvious who they are meant to be. With the exception of Mixmaster and Hook (which both look superb, minus the abundance of head on Hook), I'd say MakeToy's Constructicons are no more G1 accurate than TFC's...................................I can't see any reason why one set of 3rd party Constructicons would be better than the other (except for the fact that we've actually got orders for Hercules ) I think it simply comes down to personal preference and available funds. Really wish I could get both.

I was going to comment on this dudes' argument that some how this looks more g1 accurate but this other dude said it bout right.

As far as any devastator being too big, I just can't get my head around that statement.

What QC issues are you talking about? The one scoop issue that they fixed right away? Both mine have been great so far. sturdy and well made.

Admittedly, I am already in for Hercules but this one looks fine too. Need to see some color.

I think I want to cry...