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At long last third-party toy company MakeToys has fully revealed their Devastator homage MT-03 Giant. They have updated their website with unblurred images of all six team members in robot and vehicle mode as well as some new images of their combined mode. The only thing that isn't fully on display is the combined robot's face. Images mirrored below.

That Long Haul figure looks horrid but the rest are pretty decent.

WOW This thing looks so much like the 1985 individual constructicons/Devestator.

this giant is a work of art. Each individual giant constructicon tries really hard to mimic the designs of the 1985 individual constructicons.
the giant devestator mode really does a great job of trying to mimic the 1985 devestator designs. perfect job,another great 3rd party toy.

Deluxe scale for each giant constructicon means their in 1984-1986 cartoon/movie size scale.

I Think the giant devestator mode is leader sized. which puts in in scale with the energon 5-in-1 combiners gestalts.

I really Hate the "Hercules". Because I'm all about scale & exact updated homages. having each individual hercules constructicon be voyager size makes them over-sized & have no original 1985 cartoon nor 1985 toy scale.

I don't like the hercules individual robot modes. because they look nothing like the 1985 constructicons robot modes. at best they look like something similar to the CR/RID 4 constructicon bots or various other constructicon bots from the years 2001 thru 2011.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:That Long Haul figure looks horrid but the rest are pretty decent.

Really? I thought he was the coolest looking of the bunch. Also it seems this Dev will have a visor, which will make some people happy.

I can't wait.

Sweet pics, but there's some "kibble" hanging out in the nether regions!

Now for color pictures, CAT yellow and G1 green.

Mkall wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:That Long Haul figure looks horrid but the rest are pretty decent.

Really? I thought he was the coolest looking of the bunch. Also it seems this Dev will have a visor, which will make some people happy.

I can't wait.

It looks like he has to pop a squat.

That really looks good so far, I can't wait to see it in color. Also, it looks like Devastator's head is there, just look at the crane that forms his shoulders (I forget its name). In vehicle mode, you can clearly see what looks like Devy's "helmet", so more than likely the crane's head is up when combined with the rest and the "helmet" goes on top. The head just looks pushed back.

I had always planned on getting both Hercules and Giant, but up until now I had favored Hercules. These images combined with TFC's QC issue have changed my mind. Still getting both, but I'm really diggin Giant!

All things being equal, TFC looks better. Unless this thing is way cheaper, I dont see why you would pick it.

That and his dangly bits are all hanging out.

necr0blivion wrote:Sweet pics, but there's some "kibble" hanging out in the nether regions!

My guess,this was done on purpose to make a joke about the ROTF movie devestator scene.

most likely the "nether regions kibble" on giant can be adjusted to not be in the nether regions area. the crane can most likely adjust to another non-nether region area on the giant toy.

tmk9883 wrote:All things being equal, TFC looks better. Unless this thing is way cheaper, I dont see why you would pick it.

Because some,like myself favor the more exact updatted homage & the more appropiate size scaled version. TFC Hercules loses on both accounts. TFC Hercules is too over sized in the individual voyager sized constructicons & supreme sized Devestator. TFC Hercules individual robot modes & devestator mode look less like the 1985 invididual constructicons/devestator than giant does.

Having a huge TFC Hercules devestator that is supreme sized might seem cool. but it's over sized & some prefer perfect size scaled TF toys. G-1 Combiners were not shown as supreme sized toys in the 1980's. the supreme size scale should only be reserved for planet formers or city formers.

the 1985 individual constructicons toys were basic or legends sized. the 1985 constructicons on the cartoon were shown as deluxe scale. as they were in similar scale to the average medium autobots like jazz,prowl,ironhide,wheeljack.

The TFC Hercules individual constructicons robot modes don't even try to mimic the 1985 individual constructicons robot modes.

At the very least Giant's individual constructicons are in proper deluxe size scale cartoon 1984-1986 media size scale. the giant devestator appears to be leader sized. which put's him around 9.5 to 10 inches tall. the original 1985 devestator toy was aroound 8 inches tall,so another 1.5 or 2 inches isn't that big of a addition.

Giant's individual constructicons robots modes do try their best to mimic the 1985 constructicons toy/cartoon designs.

Giant's devestator mode looks more like the 1985 Devesator toy/cartoon designs. and TFC Hercules looks less like the 1985 Devestator toy/cartoon designs.

I'm sick & tired of radical updates that look next to nothing like the original toy. I hate over sized or under-sized updated homage new molds.

Mkall wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:That Long Haul figure looks horrid but the rest are pretty decent.

Really? I thought he was the coolest looking of the bunch. Also it seems this Dev will have a visor, which will make some people happy.

I can't wait.

Long Haul was the first one that I did a double-take on. He's interesting.

It's odd how six gangly looking bots can form such a beefy combiner.

Scrapper looks to be on-point nicely.
Bonecrusher is kind of off from what I would have hoped for.
Scavenger is on the other side of my last point, he is surprisingly awesome.
Mixmaster is looking to be on-point as well. He looks creepy. Good.
Hook isn't too special. If the crane arm works for Grapple, it works here.
Long Haul...well, he robot mode sucked in G1. Go look at it (though, all these guys had mostly crap robot modes in G1). This is a solid update.

tmk9883 wrote:All things being equal, TFC looks better. Unless this thing is way cheaper, I dont see why you would pick it.

That and his dangly bits are all hanging out.

QC is becoming an issue with Hercules, both figures have design flaws. To their credit they stepped up and took care of the excavator arm issue on Exgraver, but they've yet to say what they plan on doing about Heavy Labor's stripped hip ratchets.

I also like how Giant retains more of the G1 design elements in combined mode.

I'm already locked in on Hercules with no regrets, but I might get this one too, funds permitting. It's also a very impressive update. I'll be even more impressed if they go for Energon style connector points too.

Not bad, but my earliest thoughts have not been changed by these images.

I don't like the individual bot modes.
Scrapper is really good, maybe even having a slight advantage in my book to the Herc version, but Hook, Longhaul and Scavenger are unacceptable to me. The arm kibble on Scavenger and Hook were the deal breakers.

I also don't like that the Devy forearms are separate pieces. Neat idea making them trailers, though.

Don't get me wrong, had Herc not been available, or not come out first, I would be very happy with Giant. It is, overall a very nice piece of work, but to me this is the lesser of the two offerings.

hahaha I thought it was funny about the hook kibble in his nether regions too. And I love how Long Haul looks. They all are kind of skinny and then he's like this bruiser guy. I wish that some of the edges were softer though, they all look like they were just freshly cut out of a computer program and they didn't want to soften any edges. I mean, I get that they're robots, but I dunno. I like how it looks though a lot.

Ooooohh....very nice. I like all those bots modes. Scrapper is my fave though. All the alt modes look quite smashing as well.

Also, and not meaning to take away from Giants spotlight here, but i wonder if anyone is going to do a nice Autobot combiner like Hercules or Giant one of these days. But I'd much rather see somebody make an Abominus first THEN do an Autobot combiner.

Computron please.

Mkall wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:That Long Haul figure looks horrid but the rest are pretty decent.

Really? I thought he was the coolest looking of the bunch. Also it seems this Dev will have a visor, which will make some people happy.

I can't wait.

I agree Mkall. I love his stockiness makes him look like a badass. I love how the individual robot modes all have character. Very very impressed.

El Duque wrote:

tmk9883 wrote:All things being equal, TFC looks better. Unless this thing is way cheaper, I dont see why you would pick it.

That and his dangly bits are all hanging out.

QC is becoming an issue with Hercules, both figures have design flaws. To their credit they stepped up and took care of the excavator arm issue on Exgraver, but they've yet to say what they plan on doing about Heavy Labor's stripped hip ratchets.

I also like how Giant retains more of the G1 design elements in combined mode.

This x100.

Two questions: 1, what is the size of this guy in relation to original Devastator and Hercules? 2, what do they plan on charging for this guy?

It's a good effort. I already planned on getting Hercules (got Ex and HL already) and prefer him at this point for the simple fact that everything is built in to the vehicle modes (the trailers kinda annoy me on Giant's bits) and I am also of the opinion that BIG is GOOD. Or, as Grimlock would say, much more gooder. My other beef seems to be the head being hidden by so much of the shoulders. The head may look great but if you can't see it then what's it good for...

I looks like I'm in the minority here because I'm underwhelmed by Giant. It has a great combined mode, don't get me wrong but I must say I'm not a fan of the individual bots. They look too small to me in both modes. How many times have you seen a dump truck or any of the alt modes used to make Giant the same size as a car driving down the road? Hercules is actually a lot more accuarate in terms of scale in my opinion. People have complained about quality on Hercules but mine have been fine. In Robot mode, they stand just a litte over the deluxe sized it is true but not much. To be fair, if it were a reality with no mass shifting, the Constructicons would have been larger than most of the Decepticons.


Incorporating the combiner parts as trailors just looks wrong to me (as it did on G1 Devy). Also, Giant makes no attempt to hide the combiner head attached to Hook, its sitting out right next to the cab. His own head can clearly be seen at the back too. I haven't seen many cranes with a large robot head attached to it.

Giant:


Hercules:


Longhaul looks too Movieverse for my liking but could be good for a kitbash into the Fallen. At first glance my first thought was Stockade:



So, yeah, I'm not regretting going with Hercules as my 3rd Party Devestator. If the cost of Giant isn't too high, I might consider getting one to repaint ala Shattered Glass though.

First-Aid wrote:Two questions: 1, what is the size of this guy in relation to original Devastator and Hercules? 2, what do they plan on charging for this guy?

It's a good effort. I already planned on getting Hercules (got Ex and HL already) and prefer him at this point for the simple fact that everything is built in to the vehicle modes (the trailers kinda annoy me on Giant's bits) and I am also of the opinion that BIG is GOOD. Or, as Grimlock would say, much more gooder. My other beef seems to be the head being hidden by so much of the shoulders. The head may look great but if you can't see it then what's it good for...

Giant is approximately the same size as Bruticus with the FansProject upgrades, I believe the price is about $300.00.

I'm probably getting both but still favor TFC's by a large margin.
All currently existing combiners are too small IMO, I want combiners to look huge and menacing like Herc's is gonna be.

Any idea when this things gonna be available for preorder?

This all looks very nice and in a perfect world I'd snap it up in a heart beat, but this thing is going to cost a fortune, lets says each figure costs £14.99 times that by 6 = £89.99 now times that by two as its a third party product and your looking at £179.88 maybe more.

I like it.

Hercules was tempting; but ultimately it didn't win me over. For Voyager class sized components, they don't seem to have particularly inspired transformations. Scavenger's Exgraver's cab is a separate piece? C'mon.

Hercules does have size going for it. That counts for something, for sure. But I think MakeToys has really nailed the aesthetic. Giant does a better job of capturing the "modernized G1" feel of the Hasbro Classics lines.

I look forward to seeing the finished product; I suspect this will be hard for me to pass up.

I was unimpressed by all of the robot modes for Hercules but these ones I like, although Longhaul is far from G1 but the others make up for it.

I want to be prime wrote:This all looks very nice and in a perfect world I'd snap it up in a heart beat, but this thing is going to cost a fortune, lets says each figure costs £14.99 times that by 6 = £89.99 now times that by two as its a third party product and your looking at £179.88 maybe more.

Your estimate seems rather conservative. I think you should have multiplied the figure by three.

El Duque wrote:Giant is approximately the same size as Bruticus with the FansProject upgrades, I believe the price is about $300.00.

Where did you get that number from? I may be able to afford it.