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by **Rated X** » Thu May 02, 2013 4:21 pm

Va'al wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:Man all this talk about caving on this has me on the edge it's every time i see that orange it just pops and makes me want him more. cheers guys

Do it...

Do it...

I just popped on these after seeing the markdown in price from the original CP price. Im just curious if these pictures are of the set with or without the PCC figure ? Im confused what are the extra parts that DONT come with the camo versions of this set ? Can someone break it down what extras you get and which modes need the PCC figure ? also which PCC figure is recommended ? Thanks in advance.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Thu May 02, 2013 4:28 pm

X, there are pictures earlier in the thread...waaaaaay earlier, IIRC. The Marine and Jungle Mobine sets include the arms and lower legs we see on this guy, plus maybe some other stuff. Don't think they come with a sword and the main body of the figure appears to be exclusive to this set, so far.

As to PCCs that look good with them, I think it depends on which colourscheme you go for. Heavytread seems to be one of the best torsos all around. I like the Undertow set and it'd work with the Marine colours well enough.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu May 02, 2013 4:39 pm

Rated X wrote:I just popped on these after seeing the markdown in price from the original CP price. Im just curious if these pictures are of the set with or without the PCC figure ? Im confused what are the extra parts that DONT come with the camo versions of this set ? Can someone break it down what extras you get and which modes need the PCC figure ? also which PCC figure is recommended ? Thanks in advance.

In addition to craggy's response.

The Chaos/Paladin set includes two vehicles.

One of them turns into a PCC commanderesque figure.

The other splits into different parts, which can be added to any PCC commander figure.

In a certain configuration, you get The Fallen figure, but only with the commander included in the set as far as we know (as the head should be in that figure, rather than the add-on limbs).

The Marine and Jungle decos only come with the limbs/partsformer vehicle.

And they are compatible with all PCC-esque commanders, including Paladin, and allow for different configurations.

by **Rated X** » Thu May 02, 2013 5:17 pm

Thanks for breaking it down for me guys.

I want him as the Fallen so this seems to be the best all around set.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu May 02, 2013 5:18 pm

Rated X wrote:Thanks for breaking it down for me guys.

I want him as the Fallen so this seems to be the best all around set.

Yes, I'd agree.
I'm still considering one of the other sets, even if just for the rifle. :-?

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Thu May 02, 2013 5:19 pm

So how tall are these guys the smaller1 and the fallen , im thinking about city comander mabey just above his shoulders for the fallen.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu May 02, 2013 5:25 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:So how tall are these guys the smaller1 and the fallen , im thinking about city comander mabey just above his shoulders for the fallen.

Fairly big.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu May 02, 2013 5:25 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:So how tall are these guys the smaller1 and the fallen , im thinking about city comander mabey just above his shoulders for the fallen.

We only really know the vehicle mode.

But I'm guessing not that big, really.
Going by the sword, which is almost as big as PCC Crankcase, it's about double that.
Maybe a tall Prime Voyager, which I think is just Classics Voyager height.

EDIT: I stand corrected, thanks Sabrblade!

RE-EDIT: This is Battle Tanker next to Voyager Classics OP.

So I think I was close in my estimate!

(Though shoulder height might be taller, actually.)

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Thu May 02, 2013 6:37 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:Man all this talk about caving on this has me on the edge it's every time i see that orange it just pops and makes me want him more. cheers guys

Do it...

Do it...

Damn it Va'al , It's pay day tomorrow it shall be done

Indeed, damn it Va'al. Do you work for these guys?

I'm also seriously considering one of the others. That rifle does look great...

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Thu May 02, 2013 8:46 pm

For those that have ordered from CapturedPrey

Hi folks,

I've just completed various tasks, including work, packing orders, and sorting the series 4 Micron Capsule figures. Obviously, as I settle in this evening to check on things with the store for the evening, the sales landscape for Maketoys' Highly anticipated Chaos/Paladin set has changed, and I are no longer the only store offering it here. Also clear is that the others, coming in when they have, have been able to take advantage of the improved US Dollar to Japanese Yen exchange rates, and have listed a price substantially lower than we have had him listed for. I want to make clear up front that the pricing I have had on this set was based on the exchange rate at the time it was offered to ME, which at that time was much worse, and had been holding rather steady for a long time. This is not a situation where the price was inflated artificially, as I do not engage in such tactics.

However, given the changed pricing landscape for the set, and the improved exchange rates, this will be a situation where the Captured Prey Pre-Order Guarantee will come into play, and an adjustment will be made for everyone's orders. I ask you to give me some time to look at the factors (including that there are a LOT of orders for this, and most are, of course, past the timeframe for direct refunds), and determine the best way to take care of you all.

A further message will be sent soon, once a course of action has been determined, and I will of course resolve this as quickly as possible. It may take a few days to get everything planned and executed, as we, like most of you, have plans that don't involve working on the weekend, but it will be done in short order.

Thank you!
Orson "Sidecutter" Christian
Owner, Captured Prey

Also, I will point out that the cause behind this is basically that the yen has become much stronger than it was when this first went up for order, and I had to base my pricing on that cost when I listed it, and had to do so with only the roughest ability to guess what anyone else might charge. Obviously things have changed and some adjustment is necessary.

I will need to look at exactly how to handle the adjustment, since there are a large number of orders, and the majority of them are well past the point where I can issue a direct refund, but there will absolutely be an announcement sent to everyone who has ordered within a few days as to what will be done.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 03, 2013 4:34 am

Agamemnon wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:Damn it Va'al , It's pay day tomorrow it shall be done

Indeed, damn it Va'al. Do you work for these guys?

I'm also seriously considering one of the others. That rifle does look great...

Nope, I just really like the look of this.

It's my first ever third party figure, too!

News Credits: 2 · by **Requiem Prime** » Fri May 03, 2013 8:13 am

daimchoc wrote:For those that have ordered from CapturedPrey

Hi folks,

I've just completed various tasks, including work, packing orders, and sorting the series 4 Micron Capsule figures. Obviously, as I settle in this evening to check on things with the store for the evening, the sales landscape for Maketoys' Highly anticipated Chaos/Paladin set has changed, and I are no longer the only store offering it here. Also clear is that the others, coming in when they have, have been able to take advantage of the improved US Dollar to Japanese Yen exchange rates, and have listed a price substantially lower than we have had him listed for. I want to make clear up front that the pricing I have had on this set was based on the exchange rate at the time it was offered to ME, which at that time was much worse, and had been holding rather steady for a long time. This is not a situation where the price was inflated artificially, as I do not engage in such tactics.

However, given the changed pricing landscape for the set, and the improved exchange rates, this will be a situation where the Captured Prey Pre-Order Guarantee will come into play, and an adjustment will be made for everyone's orders. I ask you to give me some time to look at the factors (including that there are a LOT of orders for this, and most are, of course, past the timeframe for direct refunds), and determine the best way to take care of you all.

A further message will be sent soon, once a course of action has been determined, and I will of course resolve this as quickly as possible. It may take a few days to get everything planned and executed, as we, like most of you, have plans that don't involve working on the weekend, but it will be done in short order.

Thank you!
Orson "Sidecutter" Christian
Owner, Captured Prey

Also, I will point out that the cause behind this is basically that the yen has become much stronger than it was when this first went up for order, and I had to base my pricing on that cost when I listed it, and had to do so with only the roughest ability to guess what anyone else might charge. Obviously things have changed and some adjustment is necessary.

I will need to look at exactly how to handle the adjustment, since there are a large number of orders, and the majority of them are well past the point where I can issue a direct refund, but there will absolutely be an announcement sent to everyone who has ordered within a few days as to what will be done.

THIS is how you make people repeat customers.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 03, 2013 8:22 am

Requiem Prime wrote: THIS is how you make people repeat customers.

I agree, that's a avery nice touch.
I wonder if Kapow! will do something similar..?
Might send them that email from Captured Prey.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Fri May 03, 2013 2:21 pm

Va'al wrote:
Requiem Prime wrote: THIS is how you make people repeat customers.

I agree, that's a avery nice touch.
I wonder if Kapow! will do something similar..?
Might send them that email from Captured Prey.

Good ides Va'al just so i don't pay over the odds

Thanks for the pics as well guys

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat May 04, 2013 9:41 am

From Kapow! Toys via Gamofsteak. The figure is apparently bigger than TFX01 City Commander.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat May 04, 2013 10:33 am

In other news, Andy from Kapow replied to my email about price changing.

as we're based in the UK we're subject to a different exchange rate Vs the £ and also have a much higher VAT element than the USA so won't be able to price match sadly but your more than welcome to cancel and grab a pre-order from Orson, he is a great guy and won't see you wrong.

Thanks for your email

I'm not entirely convinced, but I'm not fussed about the price difference personally.
(Though I checked, and the VAT free price is 8.400 Yen → £54.49.)

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sat May 04, 2013 11:25 am

Kapow have never done me wrong but I'm not a huge fan of the way their website is set up, or their prices or their pre-order situation, so tend to shop elsewhere. I do agree that taxes are probably a major factor in their pricing, and am sad that the government makes it easier and cheaper for me to spend my money online, and have it go to another country, rather than support a British business.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Sun May 05, 2013 11:30 am

Va'al wrote:
Autobot Genocide wrote:Man all this talk about caving on this has me on the edge it's every time i see that orange it just pops and makes me want him more. cheers guys

Do it...

Do it...

Ha, I caved too. It looks like Henkei Megatron is about to get overthrown on my Classics/Henkei/G/U/etc... shelf

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Sun May 05, 2013 6:32 pm

Preordered. This guy's goin' up against my Dagger Interspace Commander:

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Sun May 12, 2013 10:14 pm

c/o CapturedPrey:

Hi All,

I wanted to drop a line to let you all know that as of this time, if you have a Chaos/Paladin on order which was ordered at the original price, your account has been granted a $26 credit as an adjustment to the new price of $79. This credit does not expire, and is valid on everything we carry - it even applies towards shipping charges. When you are logged in, you'll be able to see the credit on your account, and the credit applies automatically to your cart without any codes or other extra steps to use it.

Thanks,
Orson "Sidecutter" Christian
Owner, Captured Prey

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon May 13, 2013 1:30 pm

I might have to look at adding Captured Prey to my list of back-up retailers. That's some nice customer service.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Mon May 13, 2013 1:47 pm

CP is one of the best, honestly. I bought only one thing from them, and my only experience (so far) was exceptional.

by **RAcast** » Mon May 13, 2013 1:53 pm

Autobot032 wrote:CP is one of the best, honestly. I bought only one thing from them, and my only experience (so far) was exceptional.

Similar situation on my part, and I have to agree. Their shipping methods (and, very notably, PRICES!) are excellent, and they're good about incentives.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon May 13, 2013 2:39 pm

That is some excellent customer service, right there.
I agree with everyone else, and if I ever decide to buy more third party stuff, I might consider them.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:37 pm

I'll add my positive reaction to CP as well. I only bought the Kabaya Fort Max from them, but the experience was exceptional.

My proximity to BBTS (stuff reaches me the next day as they are located about an hour away from my house) as well as the Pile of Loot feature has them as my primary. But if BBTS doesn't have it, CP is my next choice.

Back on topic, I find myself weirdly eager to get both Jungle and Chaos Paladin. I loved the idea of the PCC, but the execution by Hasbro was lacking. This is how it should have been done.

Plus, that's one sexy Fallen...